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www.mscssprints.com has the verdict...read it for yourself.

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Perfect decision IMHO. He can have whatever dissagreement he wants to with MSCS but point a loaded gun at someone there has to be a price.

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I hope Mr. Memmer can use this as a learning tool for the rest of his life. He needs to gain some maturity and realize you don't swerve a sprint car at an official just because you don't agree with the lineup. I also hope that we never, ever have to see or hear about an incident like this again. His actions were absolutely inexcusable. Glad to see that the MSCS will put him on the sidelines with their organization for a while.

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I think he got off pretty easy!
Had it been my decision to make,
1 full year suspension from the date of the incident, and 1 full year probation with 0 tolerance!
Use your car as a threat or a weapon, you should pay a HIGH price!

I am just glad they did something, and I hope he is closely scrutinized wherever he goes!

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In my opinion, for trying to clip an official, not enough. Since it's a family operation, the team should be suspended for the rest of the year.

I checked the records. The guy only made one feature this year and finished 13th. He's not a points contender so taking him out of a few races probably means nothing to him. Let him cool his jets for the rest of the year and let him come back next year on probation.

I believe most companies would bar you from their property for life if you threatened their management. How is this any different?

It's their series, they can do what they want.

Two years ago, when I was coming to IN on a regular basis, I thought John had a lot of promise. At this point, I'd say he needs to do a serious self-assessment and try to get back on the right path, focus on his driving and leave the grade school theatrics behind.

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So he misses five MSCS events. He will run somewhere else those nights.

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Haubstadt, IN - July 2, 2009. The Midwest Sprint Car Series has made the decision to place driver John Memmer of Evansville, IN, on immediate suspension. The suspension follows a careful review of a serious situation that happened on the track at Vermilion County Speedway on Saturday June 27th. Memmer will not be eligible to race in any MSCS sanctioned events until September 18, 2009 and will be on probationary status with MSCS for the remainder of the 2009 racing season.

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That's what happen's when you let kid's race at a young age. they don't care about what they have.. he has the best of the best.. there not going to set out.. if I was his Dad.. someone would be driving the car that I have all that money in and he could help in the pit's or set at home... it's so hard for hard working race's that care to get sponsor's, and yet pepole like that have good one's.....

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Originally Posted by Mark Sr:
That's what happen's when you let kid's race at a young age. they don't care about what they have.. he has the best of the best.. there not going to set out.. if I was his Dad.. someone would be driving the car that I have all that money in and he could help in the pit's or set at home... it's so hard for hard working race's that care to get sponsor's, and yet pepole like that have good one's.....

Wow. If that's not stereotyping I don't know what is. I know plenty of "kids" that race that take care of their equipment, and know what they have.

Penalty fit the crime.

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Glad to hear Mr. Memmer recieved a suspension for his actions. JMHO he will be paying the price for his actions allot longer than the length of his suspension. If Mr. Memmer ever had dreams or the desire to make it in the big leagues of auto racing, he has no one but himself to blame for those dreams being dashed. He will be damaged goods as far as securing sponsorship for years to come in my opinion.

Patti

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Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

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Originally Posted by sceckert:
Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

When I saw the PR about the punishment handed down, my first thought was "Looks like the tank ran over the Chinese guy, in this version of the story.":3:

Jerry

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Originally Posted by sceckert:
Still say those t-shirts of his car facing down a Chinese tank would sell big time.

roflol, great post

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Originally Posted by Mark Sr:
That's what happen's when you let kid's race at a young age. they don't care about what they have.. he has the best of the best.. there not going to set out.. if I was his Dad.. someone would be driving the car that I have all that money in and he could help in the pit's or set at home... it's so hard for hard working race's that care to get sponsor's, and yet pepole like that have good one's.....

I have read this post a half dozen times to try and figure where the comparison to this incident should tie in all the "kids" of this sport. We, this team, usually take the high road on all incidents and do not comment publicly when something happens that is controversial. However, it appears that you are attempting to lump all the young drivers into a stereotyped group so that when something happens, it can be chalked up to their youth and financial backing. For the teams and parents that have worked very hard to make sure their drivers or children are respectful to the fellow drivers, fans, track management, and especially their sponsors, this posting is a little unfair.

Some of the young men and woman that race today, regardless of their age or financial standing, are honest, caring and love the sport Racing. They do their best to emulate the best drivers in the business, while looking for the respect of their peers and all parties involved. Actually, not some, MOST.

I believe these young people will find your post offensive but will not make a stance because they have been taught better. So I will make the statement. Bunching everyone of these youngsters into a group that associates them with something this dramatic is wrong. Regardless of Financial Standing or Age, an incident this dramatic is unfortunate and we believe unacceptable just like everyone else. But we respectfully request to not be labeled, just like some of the other youngsters do, as a "problem group" because of age and financial standing. It is just not right.

We are friends with the Memmers but certainly do not condone or support John's actions on that night. I am sure their Family has taken a serious beating by many over this incident. As for the rest of the "kids", I can assure you this is one group that would not have to wait for any sanctions to be placed against our driver. He would already be back in New York working at a Hamburger Stand if that kind of actions took place under this Flag. I am sure that is the same with many other parents of these young guns. So please be a little more cautious with your tagging of these kids. Most of them are going to do this sport a lot of justice in the coming years.

Pete Gulick
Hazardous Sports
CGR

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Originally Posted by TeamCGR:
I have read this post a half dozen times to try and figure where the comparison to this incident should tie in all the "kids" of this sport. We, this team, usually take the high road on all incidents and do not comment publicly when something happens that is controversial. However, it appears that you are attempting to lump all the young drivers into a stereotyped group so that when something happens, it can be chalked up to their youth and financial backing. For the teams and parents that have worked very hard to make sure their drivers or children are respectful to the fellow drivers, fans, track management, and especially their sponsors, this posting is a little unfair.

Some of the young men and woman that race today, regardless of their age or financial standing, are honest, caring and love the sport Racing. They do their best to emulate the best drivers in the business, while looking for the respect of their peers and all parties involved. Actually, not some, MOST.

I believe these young people will find your post offensive but will not make a stance because they have been taught better. So I will make the statement. Bunching everyone of these youngsters into a group that associates them with something this dramatic is wrong. Regardless of Financial Standing or Age, an incident this dramatic is unfortunate and we believe unacceptable just like everyone else. But we respectfully request to not be labeled, just like some of the other youngsters do, as a "problem group" because of age and financial standing. It is just not right.

We are friends with the Memmers but certainly do not condone or support John's actions on that night. I am sure their Family has taken a serious beating by many over this incident. As for the rest of the "kids", I can assure you this is one group that would not have to wait for any sanctions to be placed against our driver. He would already be back in New York working at a Hamburger Stand if that kind of actions took place under this Flag. I am sure that is the same with many other parents of these young guns. So please be a little more cautious with your tagging of these kids. Most of them are going to do this sport a lot of justice in the coming years.

Pete Gulick
Hazardous Sports
CGR

LOL.. :5: your right not all the young kid's are that way.. but there is those that do not care.. maybe it was the way I was raised. when you have to make your own way and bust a## to make it so you can do what you love it's hard to watch someone that has it give to them not care.. it's not just in racing it's everywhere.. kid's now day's don't care.. and have no respect.. look around.. when I was a kid.. you got paddaled in school, didn't talk back. and had respect for other's. how's that go? spare the rod!! many may not like what I say.. but life goes on. :10::8: it's so much fun to stir the pot :2:

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Mark Sr. Wow you must have the same guy writing your material that John used in his apology, although you didnt mention a tank. All kids are not bad, and I do take offense at your comments. I normally do not post, but after reading both your post, I had to reply. You are entitiled to your opinion, even when your wrong. There are a lot of good kids out there, in racing and everywhere else. They are our future. I think we are in good hands.
Robert McIntosh

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I personally think he should be sat down for the rest of the year. No need to see him on the track anytime soon IMO.

All kids aren't like that I will say. Chad Boat is a great example to me. Nice, polite, respectful, fast, and wins. He knows how the car works and can work on it himself. He takes care of his equipment because he knows his dad is giving him a great opportunity to race.

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I hope otheer tracks and officials will have a keen eye on John when comes to race with them. He is still a loaded gun with a short powder fuse. This is sad for race fans.
Chuck

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There was an incident in Vinton, Iowa, about 10 years ago where a driver rammed the car of another competitor in the pits while several people were standing around. The driver earned a lifetime ban from IMCA and from the race track itself -- no matter what sanction he was running with.
Larry Kemp over at Eldora Speedway will remember the incident. He was promoting the Vinton track at the time.
Jim Morrison.

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Me personally, I never once said anything about anyone else besides John Memmer.
I did not, and do not, think his actions reflect on any person other than he, and his father.
I do not believe that young drivers, male or female, should or can, be lumped into a single definition.
Each driver young or old, creates their very own persona, and their true character always shows through, good or bad.
Most young drivers that I am familiar with, are fine young citizens, and I am proud to know them.
There however, is always an exception to any rule, i.e. John Memmer.
I only hope for his own benefit, this is truly a learning experience for him and his dad, time will tell.

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Originally Posted by mcintosh34:
Mark Sr. Wow you must have the same guy writing your material that John used in his apology, although you didnt mention a tank. All kids are not bad, and I do take offense at your comments. I normally do not post, but after reading both your post, I had to reply. You are entitiled to your opinion, even when your wrong. There are a lot of good kids out there, in racing and everywhere else. They are our future. I think we are in good hands.
Robert McIntosh

I don't care what anyone think's!!!! I say what I think.. and love to get you all fired up........ :8::5::3:;):20::6: