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Are mini sprints replacing the mods?Mods used to pack the pits with cars.Not running weekly that wont happen anytime soon.Id much rather watch mods then mini's.
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Absolutely Not!! We have more mods races for the rest of the season than any other track in the area, We have 13 mod races scheduled for the rest of 2009 and also one more at the DTWC in Oct. Florence has 10 more mods races, Twin Cities has 8 more, and Brownstown has 11 more. We at Lawrenceburg have a longer(more races) season than any other track around. We mostly run 3 classes a night which is the reason classes are broken up some. We rotate with Pure stocks and Mini-sprints. We do the best we can to get everyone's class in as often as possible. See schedule below or go to Lawrenceburg Speedway.com.
We may also add some more Mod shows this season if everything goes good. Thanks for your concearn, and come out to watch the mods this weekend along with the Sprints, and Purestocks. See ya at the races. Dave May 30 Family Night!!Kids 12 and under FREE!!Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Budweiser UMP Mods, Purestocks more info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- June 4 Motorcycle, Quads and Go-Cart racing For more info go to http://www.lawrenceburgmotorcyclespeedway.net/ 5 Special Event:World Of Outlaw Sprints $10,000 to win,Budweiser UMP Modifieds and AMSA Mini Sprints more info 6 Special Event:World Of Outlaw Sprints $10,000 to win,Budweiser UMP Modifieds and AMSA Mini Sprints more info 13 Special Event:USAC Midget Week, Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints,AMSA Sprints 20 Beach Party Night!!Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Budweiser UMP Mods, Purestocks more info 24 AMSA Mini Sprints, Street Truck Races!! 27 Dearborn County Fair $10,000 purse Demo-Derby -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- July 4 Closed 10 Special Event:USAC Indiana Sprintweek Robbie Stanley Memorial, AMSA Mini Sprints more info 18 Special Event:All Stars Late Model Series, Budweiser UMP Modifieds, Purestocks more info 25 Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints,Budweiser UMP Mods, AMSA Mini Sprints more info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- August 1 Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints,Plus Sprint Car Wheelstanding Nationals!! Budweiser UMP Mods, Purestocks:HARF,DARF,BARC Night more info 8 Teen Night & Coke Night At The Races!!Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints,Budweiser UMP Mods,Purestocks, AMSA Mini Sprints more info 15 Closed 22 USAC National Sprints "Dick Gaines Classic" $10,000 to win Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints,Budweiser UMP Mods, AMSA more info 28 Special Event:Lucas Oil Late Model Series $10,000 to win TV Show, Budweiser UMP Mods more info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- September 5 Budweiser UMP Modifieds-Monster Modified 40, Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Purestocks more info 11 Special Event:All Stars Circuit of Champions Hoosier Fall Classic, AMSA Mini Sprints 12 Special Event:All Stars Circuit of Champions Hoosier Fall Classic, Budweiser UMP Modifieds 19 Coke Night At The Races:Final Points Night!!Lawrenceburg Chevrolet Sprints, Budweiser UMP Mods, Purestocks:HARF,DARF,BARC Night more info -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- October 2 Special Event:Lawrenceburg Fall Nationals:USAC Sprints $10,000 to win more info 3 Special Event:Lawrenceburg Fall Nationals:MSCS Sprints $10,000 to win, AMSA Mini Sprints more info 8 - 11 Special Event:14th Annual Fun Fest 15 - 17 Special Event:29th Annual Dirt Track World Championship, Late Models $50,000 to win, Modifieds $3000 to win, Sprints $5000 to win more info |
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Originally Posted by mroutlaw101: I thought LBurg was the INDY or Daytona to the Minis but even those series run their track once or twice a year. IM certainly not trying to blindside LBurg or degrade the mini sprints as a development series. I just feel they add nothing to the show or at least the desire to attend. I know im certainly not the only one who feels this way as I asked three people to go with me and that was the reason they didn't want to come. I can apreciate a guest class, Legends, Minis, Mini Stock, Even a super stock. TQ's (I actually enjoyed the TQ's and how some of them bicycled and pulled a wheel here and there) Like i said, I certainly do not mean to blindside anyone. A couple three races and a nationals wouldn't be a bad thing but 9-10 times a season?? If I was trying to blindside. I woudln't have come. The staff and people of LB Speedway have been nothing but great to me but I seriously was considering other options for nights that featured Minis. Id rather pay more than have them as a featured class that often. Mini Guys, Im not trying to knock you. Really. Im sure the experience is a ball and learning but your product is much better (AND I'VE SEEN IT) ON much smaller tracks. Expecially ones you have to lift the throttle on.. Chuck, wishing both well. But would rather spend a evening at the races with Dad and family that they actually wanted to go to. |
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To each his own I guess. It's interesting how race fans can have very different tastes.
I love the Mini-Sprints, the speed in which they get around L-Burg and how hard they drive there. I don't mind the mods but pure stocks are an obsolute bore....not to mention what they do to the track with their narrow tires. The only excitement I have ever witnessed involving a pure stock race was when one of them flipped off the flagman last year after driving over the cone on a restart. He was then issued a black flag and removed from the track. The mini-sprints are a good filler class for the sprints because their races go fast. Throw in mods/late models/pure stocks etc with sprints equals a late finish at the track. The mini-sprints have had a very good car count this season....about 27 / 28 cars per show. The past two races the winner passed for the lead on the last lap. Keep in mind this is just my opinion and I am sure many people don't share it. I guess that is why there are so many different types of racing. |
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Chuck, Thats why we have more racing nights in a season than any other track. So we can satisfy everones taste, well almost everyone. We have 27 racing nights left for 2009 to choose from, sorry to hear that one class of cars is keeping your family from the races.
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To me, the mods put on good racing, but everytime I've watched them only about 7 or 8 finish and tons of cautions. The pure stocks are pretty boring and I thought the tq race the other night was pretty bad as well. The mini sprints may not put on as good as a show as the sprints, but there has been plenty of passing through the races, and with the new configuration allows cars to run the top and bottom. they've been there 4 times this year, twice with a last lap pass for the win, and another with a 3 car battle for the win, each of those with 3 + lead changes. Idk I don't know what else you want out of the racing. To each its own I guess.
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I really enjoy the modified races at the Burg (and Bloomington). There is a bunch of great modified drivers out there who put on great races week in and week out.
I also like the mini sprints. Their car counts have been up and they have put on some great races this year. A couple of races ago you had Rod Henning and Beau Stewart battling for the win with Stewart making a last lap pass for his first victory. Then last week you had Kevin Roberts, Jr. passing his father at the white flag also scoring his first win. Chuck, you don't have to like every class of car that races at the Burg. If you haven't paid attention to the mini sprints for the last couple of years check them out. The Raceceivers have really helped speed up their part of the program and some of the drivers have gotten more experience and are looking better on the track. And we've seen a couple of those drivers compete in a sprint car (JR Douglas, Jason Soudrette, Boyd Wolff & John Race). But I will admit when I'm at Lawrenceburg at a race without the modifieds it seems like something is missing. I'm glad they're on the card for the next 3 races and I look forward to seeing Kramer, Wieck, Harris, Corbin, Largent and the rest of the guys at the track. |
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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell: Chuck, who honestly can't think of a time in LBurg history where two V8 classes weren't part of any shows except in the 70s where Full up midgets were the second card and Beetle blasters were the 3rd |
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Originally Posted by slide22: While I do disagree with Chuck regarding watching the mini-sprints at L-Burg, I will admit that his point about these cars putting on a better show on a smaller track is correct. The smaller tracks are more of a 'drivers' track for this class. We ran up at Twin Cities for the first time a couple of weeks back and my son loved it. It was a completely different style of driving. That being said we love racing in our back yard at L-Burg. If we can ever resolve our motor problems we plan to be out there and competitive again on June 6th. |
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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell: Jerry |
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I also vote for the Mods over the other classes!
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This post could go on forever with no result.:15: For me I will watch anything race. If "Joe Smith" has a mini sprint, modified, late model, 410 sprint, etc. why not let him run this GREAT track. Dave thanks for scheduling everything.:6: I am sure that everyone on here has seen a BORING sprint car, late model, mini sprint, etc. race. So watch it and enjoy it or go to the bathroom at that time, because the support classes spend their hard earned money just like the big boys do to go run. So cheers to all who race.:31: Thank you for putting on a show for me and my family to watch.:8:
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Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw: Chuck, Too bad you missed Nothing But Sprints Night, 360's Winged V-8's, 410 Winged V-8's, and Traditional 410 Sprints V-8's. How many times have you seen that in one night eh? :) Thanks, Dave |
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Dave, when is L-Burg getting a Cup race? I like your chances better than KY Speedway. ;)
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Originally Posted by midget96: ---------- Post added at 08:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:23 PM ---------- Originally Posted by Phylo82: :3: |
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I go to quite a few races in a years time. One reason that I love going to Lawrenceburg is the variety. Most tracks run the same classes each and every week. Nothing wrong with that, however if you like to see numerous types of races like I do, then you need to hit the burg. I had a friend ask me the other day why I go to Lawrenceburg so often? My answer to him was that I get to see all types of races not the same old thing each and every week. Dave, keep up the good work.:6: I also agree that Chuck missed a good night of racing with the nothing but sprint night.
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I was there at nothing but sprint night. The USAC Show, The scout night and last week. The NWers Never fail to excite me, Neither do the Mods or Pure stocks. The Nothing but sprints night with Damion sliding pace on the last corner of the last lap was kick butt.
The minis I left. I don't deny there can be good racing in the minis at times. I think what your missing is the difference between racing and what I and family consider EXCITING. Honestly, Its the only class I find nothing exciting about at any time. I've found them exciting at Greensburg and what was a much smaller track at portsmouth. Because they got sideways, Pulled wheels, Ran multiple laps side by side. Lburg looks like a 80mph cruise. Trust me, I know what hard work and effort and finance you Mini guys put in. IM not against you racing there. IM sure many of your aparations are to move up sometime. I just don't consider them to be a accent to a show. Expecially watching a show thursday with nothing but sprints. I felt I was missing out on nothing BTW, Did you see that VARC race? That was kick butt! as well as Faas on a Gaines style cruise. |
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Since we are picking out flaws in the L'Burg schedule...:5:
I would love to see another USAC midget show on the card:16, especially if you could double'em up with the sprints a'la midget week:2::2::2: Oh, before I forget, that mini-sprint race following the KISS show was :6::6::6:, but I also love seeing the mods run:10: |
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Couldn't resist because there has been so much talk about this other places than this board. Everyone I have talked to recently about this topic doesn't understand why the mods aren't there more. I went to Florence when the Burg rained out for WOO Late models and a lot of regular Burg fans were on the backstretch talking about the lack of mod races. It seemed like there were 35-40 mods every week last year I am sure Dave could give a more accurate number. I am not going to knock other classes but it seems that mods have been slighted this year for mini sprint shows. My personal preference would be sprints, mods and then a mix of minis, pure stocks and whatever they choose to run but it is Dave's show to run and I respect that. Not a knock on Dave and staff because I know they are the hardest working around and do a great job. Dave, thanks for adding the mods to the WOO shows. Hopefully more mod shows = more fans in the stands for Dave and I think that will happen because a lot of the mod guys are local.
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBullet: |
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Originally Posted by Phylo82: |
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Reading this post is amazing. I've been involved with racing for over 40 years and one thing for sure that will kill a track is the lack of varity in the schedule. People and racers get bored with the same old thing. With my involment in racing at all levels I have not seen a promotor work so hard to try and please everyone. Dave doesn't rule the Burg with an Iron Fist like some promotors. Dave is very forward thinking when it comes to the racers welfare and all in the best intrest of the fans.
True race fans enjoy all levels and types of racing. Sure some classes of cars pack the stands more than others. Don't you think Dave knows this? What I don't understand is that all the sprint car races this year have been second to none. Been going to Knoxville since 64' and I can tell you this without any doubt that the Burg puts on a Sprint show that rivals Knoxville. The shame about this is that when you look over to the grand stands, there less than half full. Why? Not sure how to finish this up but to say that the schedule was published early in the year, if one class of cars felt they were getting slighted by not having enough races, then it should had been address at the start of the season. Waiting to the middle of the year to start bashing a track on a public forum about it's schedule is not a true race fan. What we as race fans and racers need to realize is that we have one of the finest facilities to enjoy our sport in the midwest. We as a group need to positively support the efforts of Dave and the staff of the Burg. |
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Originally Posted by williscrg: |
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I just think mod drivers will be running points elsewhere now b/c they have ran more elsewhere.
I dont care how good the facility is if the product is not of the same level. Its like building a pro stadium for a high school team makes no sense. The amount of money you pay for something sets our expectations of the product no matter what it is. They always say ya get what ya pay for. Am I so wrong as to expect more? |
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Vote with your dollars !! It's the only vote we have anymore !! Thanks for the great racin' Dave !!
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Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw: |
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Originally Posted by ThaBurgFan: |
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Is there ANY CHANCE that there will ever be a silver crown race at the burg , I would love to see the big cars on that track......
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Not counting the Demo Derbies and the quad drags at the Burg, we have more races scheduled than you :P:P:P:P
Just ribbin on you Dave, anyplace the Mods can go put on a show, is ok with me. :) See ya at the DTWC |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: Have a great week, Dave P.S. Not to mention, a 10,000 to win Late models race, a $5,000 to win Late Model race, a $50,000 to win late models race. 3 $10,000 to win winged shows, and 3 $10,000 to win non-winged shows.Plus a $5000 to win sprint show. plus a $5000 to win sprint week show,a big midget week show and i guess we could go on and on, bottom line is there is tons of racing left for 2009, we have only begun, and so have other tracks, we need people to support all these tracks to continue to do what we do. Thanks |
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dave, i think what a lot of people are saying is that with some of the highest car counts in the country in the mod class why would you cut them out at all. there are some sad faces in the pits about it. i like variety but this is what i'm hearing....
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Dave, I think you are doing a good job at the track and I like the way you have up-graded the track, but my only complaint is the occasional late hour that the races run. I live one hour and 25 minutes away and am there almost every week,so I like to see the races keep moving instead of taking long breaks before the features.Keep up the good work. Dave
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Originally Posted by smith19: |
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Do they have a time limit at The 'Burg for support classes? If they do not they should, this would let the show end at a decent hour.
I remember back in the day when Gregg Stabb ran the place, he had a time limit on supports series when USAC, All-Stars or WoO ran. It really sped up the show. Now granted there were a couple of nights when the E-Mods never saw a checkered flag, because of their constant yellows, but the people that were there to see the main attraction were very happy. |
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Time limit on everything would be fair
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: |
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Right on Jon, if there were a time limit I wouldn't return. Dave
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This past week was the first time I have watched in depth the Mini's. I decided to do them and TQs for LIVE last week just to mix it up. All in all a good night for them. It was entertaining..... if the race for the lead got long then go back deeper and there was usually a battle going on. Nice series.... and hey if we have Sprint car graduates come out of there, that's fine by me!
Since the discussion of Mods was brought up...... does anyone find it interesting that Brady Short and Jeff Bland Jr's success hasn't had more mod drivers come along? I know there are a few who have.... Jesse Cramer comes to mind. Who are some of the others? Miles? Humphrey? Perry? |
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We do have time limits at Lawrenceburg.
I might be wrong but I thought the only night that ran late was the "Sprints, Sprints & More Sprints Night." Qualifying the MASS sprints is what started us out behind (we didn't start the heats until 7:49). The time stamps on the last class of the night from my racing format program: April 18th - mini sprints - 11:40 pm April 25th - pure stocks - 10:40 pm (sprints 9:43 PM) May 2nd - mini sprints - 10:41 pm (sprints 9:48 pm) May 9th - mini sprints - 12:48 am (MASS sprints 10:05 pm) May 23rd - TQ's - don't have time - (KISS sprints 9:58 pm) (The time stamp is when I closed or saved it for the last time. The races could have been done sooner.) |
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Ok, using that logic. The next time I see a Sprint Car feature with multiple reds or yellows, its quite alright if it runs for 25 to 30 minutes?
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