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usac14 5/23/09 5:07 PM

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Any good people out there planning on posting updates? I wish there was a way for me to listen to the radio broadcast online. Anybody have any ideas?:32:

usac14 5/23/09 7:46 PM

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getting worried...anyone?

I had heard that mustseeracing.com would have something live. I think there taping for a later broadcast though.

Cottle fan dirt junkie 5/23/09 10:02 PM

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dont know how much help it is but i know shane cottle was taken out on the first lap by a someone. dont know who!:13:

interpreter66 5/23/09 10:20 PM

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50 to go

gordon steele adams wilson litt

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its over

1-steele
2-gordon
3-adams
4-litt

Brandon Watson 5/23/09 10:58 PM

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Nice Job goes out to Steele! Gordon needed a few tissues at the end. He couldnt take it he flat got beat by one of the best. Must be in the name of Gordon that makes you want to cry!

cee20win 5/23/09 11:00 PM

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what happen with gene nolens cars

illiNOISE 5/23/09 11:07 PM

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Anyone have some info on how many drivers finished the race, and how many of those were on the lead lap?

cee20win 5/23/09 11:08 PM

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What happen gene nolens cars

Fred Zirzow 5/23/09 11:12 PM

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FEATURE: (500 laps)1. Dave Steele, 2. Eric Gordon, 3. Donnie Adams Jr., 4. Jacob Wilson, 5. Ryan Litt, 6. JoJo Helberg, 7. Jeff Banyas, 8. Jim Swain, 9. Brandon Whited, 10. Rex Norris III, 11. Tony Elliott, 12. Tim Cox, 13. Aaron Pierce, 14. Mike Koss, 15. Jason Blonde, 16. Nick Green, 17. Russ Gamester, 18. Chris Windom, 19. Troy DeCaire, 20. Shane Hollingsworth, 21. Kevin Feeney, 22. Brian Tyler, 23. Sondi Eden, 24. Ryan Hamilton, 25. Brent Berry, 26. Jeff Bloom, 27. Brian Gerster, 28. Tony Hunt, 29. Chet Fillip, 30. Jonathan Vennard, 31. Shane Butler, 32. Jimmy McCune, 33. Shane Cottle.


FEATURE LAP LEADERS: Laps 1-113 Elliott, Laps 114-118 Brian Tyler, Laps 119-166 Steele, Laps 167-204 Elliott, Laps 205-238 Pierce, Laps 239-319 Gordon, Laps 320-414 Steele, Laps 415-467 Gordon, laps 468-500 Steele.

Pat O'Connor Fan 5/23/09 11:13 PM

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What is your problem? Both of those Gordon men you are so jealous of have certainly won more races than you.

Brandon Watson 5/23/09 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan (Post 105472)
What is your problem? Both of those Gordon men you are so jealous of have certainly won more races than you.

So true but least I accept it and move on. I just dont like to here someone on the radio crying casue he got beat in the pits especially. Steele out drove him and even he admited it. :6:

Mud Packer 5/23/09 11:35 PM

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I beg to differ with you Mr. Watson. The only difference this evening was a new right rear on Steele's last pit stop. Two quality drivers who MADE an otherwise ho hum race worth watching. Early attrition was very dramatic as they were dropping like flys in the first 150 laps.

A call goes out to two young drivers who performed very well and came home with top 5 finishes. Donnie Adams Jr. and Jacob Wilson were up on the wheel this evening.:31: Both should be congratulated for a fine effort.:8: I believe the final count was 11 cars running at the end of the 500 laps.

A very nice crowd for this years version of the Little 5. They said that both Elliott and Hollingsworth blew an engine. Steele and Gordon were the only two cars on the lead lap at the end.

petey 5/23/09 11:46 PM

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Heard Cottle got taken out on the very first lap.:19:

Mud Packer 5/23/09 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by petey (Post 105485)
Heard Cottle got taken out on the very first lap.:19:

Yes indeed. Cottle and Jimmy McCune were both eliminated on the initial start of the race. Cottle went over to someone else's pit area and they had to lead him away after a heated discussion.:20: I don't think it was McCune's pit but I can't be sure of that. I thought Jimmy was just an innocent victim along with Cottle.

eli2448 5/23/09 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon Watson (Post 105464)
Nice Job goes out to Steele! Gordon needed a few tissues at the end. He couldnt take it he flat got beat by one of the best. Must be in the name of Gordon that makes you want to cry!

Man 8 little 500 victories just makes me want to ball my eyes out. Steele caused a caution spinning adams so he could get tires. If it wasnt for that he would have never won.

9racing 5/24/09 3:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eli2448 (Post 105490)
Man 8 little 500 victories just makes me want to ball my eyes out. Steele caused a caution spinning adams so he could get tires. If it wasnt for that he would have never won.

Wow your an idiot.. First a shout out to Donny adams jr.. Hell of show.. 2nd, something could be said about him holding both steele and gordon up.. But since you wanna say thats how steele only could have won?? How bout the cry baby antics of Gordon, Trying to block steele from leaving the pits to get in front of the pace car, good thing the officials noticed that and gave him the lap back because of that crap.. secondly steele was faster all night Period!! he wasnt even pushing the issue and gordon still couldnt get around him.. And gordon saying he lost it in the pits?? EVERY TIME HE WAS IN THE PITS HE HAD A PUSH TRUCK ON HIS TAIL WAITING FOR HIM.. Steeles crew had to do back flips down the pits just to get one.. and at that the last stop the push truck for some reason stopped pushing him about 30 feet after the corner.. hmmm.. either way, GORDON GOT PLAIN BEAT!!! Steele could talk about all the bad beats hes had their, but he doesnt.. HE MOVES ON AND CONTINUES TO WIN!! WAY TO GO DAVE!!

ELI2448 would you like to compare victories of steele to gordon??

Lastly, It was a little lack luster of the amount of cars running at the end.. But all in all to watch the last half of the race play out was classic.. Alot of motor problems tonight.. maybe 7 out because of issues with the motor.

Jim Gardner 5/24/09 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105523)
EVERY TIME HE WAS IN THE PITS HE HAD A PUSH TRUCK ON HIS TAIL WAITING FOR HIM.. Steeles crew had to do back flips down the pits just to get one.. and at that the last stop the push truck for some reason stopped pushing him about 30 feet after the corner..


To be clear and fair, on that last stop Steele got a right rear and some fuel, and then had the front brakes locked up all the way down the pit road until the push truck stopped because his car wasn't in gear from after the stop- thats how fast the push truck was on him after the jack dropped.

Congratulations to Steele he a great race.

9racing 5/24/09 2:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Gardner (Post 105582)
To be clear and fair, on that last stop Steele got a right rear and some fuel, and then had the front brakes locked up all the way down the pit road until the push truck stopped because his car wasn't in gear from after the stop- thats how fast the push truck was on him after the jack dropped.

Congratulations to Steele he a great race.

That wasnt steeles story after the race.. but as you said, Great race, and great job steele..

Nick

kinser 5/24/09 2:39 PM

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What was his story about spinning Adams ? passing the pace car so he could dive into the pits while they were still closed ? passing the pace car after he pitted and lost a lap ?
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9racing 5/24/09 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kinser (Post 105622)
What was his story about spinning Adams ? passing the pace car so he could dive into the pits while they were still closed ? passing the pace car after he pitted and lost a lap ?
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well im not sure what your talking about.. I posted earlier about the Donny adams thing.. and 2nd, If you watched the race then you would see EVERY CAR pass the pace car when they get close to their entrance.. and also when the guy on the inside of the front stretch waves the :23: flag that means the pits are open.. and lastly, obviously you werent watching the race that closely.. Go to the Anderson Herald bulletin web site and read the story.. GORDON BLOCKED HIM LOW.. thats why the OFFICIALS GAVE HIM THE LAP BACK!! lol either way Steele won.. he deserved to win, and he did.. :22:

Nick

illiNOISE 5/24/09 3:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105523)
And gordon saying he lost it in the pits?? EVERY TIME HE WAS IN THE PITS HE HAD A PUSH TRUCK ON HIS TAIL WAITING FOR HIM.. Steeles crew had to do back flips down the pits just to get one.. and at that the last stop the push truck for some reason stopped pushing him about 30 feet after the corner.

I've seen ads for a 36 lb. Bert Sprint Car transmission. Would it be against the rules to run one of these units? It seems like it would be worth the investment, just to avoid the possibility of your push truck not being there, or the motor on the push truck dying, etc. Especially when pitting under green.

Midget82 5/24/09 3:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105523)
Wow your an idiot.. First a shout out to Donny adams jr.. Hell of show.. 2nd, something could be said about him holding both steele and gordon up..

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Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105624)
Go to the Anderson Herald bulletin web site and read the story.. GORDON BLOCKED HIM LOW.. thats why the OFFICIALS GAVE HIM THE LAP BACK!! lol either way Steele won.. he deserved to win, and he did.. :22:

Nick

First of all, I think you may be the idiot. Your first statement only contradicts itself. Basically you said "Nice job Donnie, but why didn't you allow the leaders to put you a lap down while you're running third?" :14:

Were you one of the morons that stood up and cheered as soon as Steele turned Adams around, just to draw the yellow? If Donnie was holding him up so much and Steele was obviously the fastest car, why couldn't he just pass Donnie clean on the high side?

Not bashing the Anderson Herald, but how often do local newspapers get the entire story and know all the true facts? Are you getting your opinions/facts from the newspaper or from your own personal accounts? :15:


...Donnie Adams, Jr. ran a hell of a race and was in the top 5 all night, as well as Jacob Wilson. Glad to see those guys do well. :9:

alrho23 5/24/09 3:57 PM

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I was there and watching closely and in my opinion if Steele doesn't get that caution he would have had to pit under green and he would have lost the race.

Midget82 5/24/09 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cee20win (Post 105468)
What happen gene nolens cars

Elliott had ingnition problems, Hollingsworth lost oil pressure.

9racing 5/24/09 5:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Midget82 (Post 105630)
First of all, I think you may be the idiot. Your first statement only contradicts itself. Basically you said "Nice job Donnie, but why didn't you allow the leaders to put you a lap down while you're running third?" :14:

Were you one of the morons that stood up and cheered as soon as Steele turned Adams around, just to draw the yellow? If Donnie was holding him up so much and Steele was obviously the fastest car, why couldn't he just pass Donnie clean on the high side?

Not bashing the Anderson Herald, but how often do local newspapers get the entire story and know all the true facts? Are you getting your opinions/facts from the newspaper or from your own personal accounts? :15:


...Donnie Adams, Jr. ran a hell of a race and was in the top 5 all night, as well as Jacob Wilson. Glad to see those guys do well. :9:

Personal accounts, and the paper backs it up.. maybe you should have been in steeles pit when adams came up and gave him congrats on the win, and the conversation they had.. until then zip your lip hero..

Its funny their was 80 + laps left and you want to say their wouldnt be another caution.. you dont know that!

Adams finished 3 laps down.. not 1.. first off.. and lost 1 from the spin out.. so hmm do the math.. and again lastly, its hard to pass someone on the high side when they are running the middle of the track..

POINT BEING STEELE WON, GORDON WAS OUT OF LINE.. AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONES ON THE GORDON BAND WAGON.. thats fine but dont whine when you lose.. and you lose after blocking on a caution lap.. and then blame on losing the race in the pits.. this post should be renamed everyone who whines like ERIC.. lol other than that its over.. Steele won.. take it to the house! later...

P.s. ELI, sorry for the idiot remark.. it was out of line.. sorry for that..

jpa317 5/24/09 6:17 PM

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Too bad Elliot and and Hollingsworth had engine issues.

But worse than that was Brian Tyler's misfortune. All the Gordon vs Steele chatter on here and nobody's giving Tyler a mention for his drive to the front before losing his engine. He looked really good getting there guys. Anybody know what the situation was?

Midget82 5/24/09 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105637)
Personal accounts, and the paper backs it up.. maybe you should have been in steeles pit when adams came up and gave him congrats on the win, and the conversation they had.. until then zip your lip hero..

Its funny their was 80 + laps left and you want to say their wouldnt be another caution.. you dont know that!

Adams finished 3 laps down.. not 1.. first off.. and lost 1 from the spin out.. so hmm do the math.. and again lastly, its hard to pass someone on the high side when they are running the middle of the track..


So I've "done the math" and he ended up 3 laps down instead of 2 and he, luckily, didn't lose a position... But, that wasn't my point. And I understand that Dave and Donnie were okay after the race, but it's still frustrating to see someone deliberately spun out who was holding their line and in third place. If your boy Steele was that good and had any patience he would have been able to make the pass. :31:

michiganmadman 5/24/09 7:55 PM

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Just have one question...is traction control legal for this race since it is not a USAC sanctioned race?

e.g. 5/24/09 8:12 PM

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I owe my crew an apology for the poor choice of words I used after the race. My crew gave me two great pit stops, I couldn't have asked for a better group. I did not lose the race in the pits. I lost to Dave on the track. In my frustration after the race I used poor judgement in interviews. Dave did what he had to do to win and so did I. What I did was deemed illegal. All of us show up to win. That race means more than most other if not all races. Dave is a driver I always use as a standard of competition at any track. I congratulated Dave and Lynn and his crew after the race. Dave should have won several 500's but had freak deals take them away. I wish him and Lynn all the best on their upcoming nuptuals. I mainly want my team to know they did everything they could and then some to put our car in a position to win, we just got beat. I tried to push the rules like all people in racing have at one time or another and I was penalized, for that I apologize to them.

mortboyz 5/24/09 10:30 PM

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Classy post Eric, and a great job last night. And a great job as well by Dave Steele. The previous 8 Little 5's we've been to, he's had some bad breaks while running good enough to win, so maybe justice was served.
I do have to admit that the spin of Donnie, Jr. really pissed me off. Dave had run some 410 laps without touching anyone, so why spin the 3rd place guy, whose holding his line and a lap down. If it was for the caution he needed for tires, then that's just cheap in my book. And I debate that he was holding anyone up.

On a personal note, don't know about E.G., but I needed a tissue after that race run by Donnie Adams, Jr. :8:
I'm thinkin' the old man was mighty proud looking down on us last night.

Dave Argabright 5/24/09 10:42 PM

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That's a classy post, Eric. I already liked you and now I like you more.

A little bit of controversy is not a bad thing. The Little 500 is a very special race, and it means a LOT to win it. Not just money, but a different kind of meaning. Sometimes that brings out the best and the worst in us, because we're human. However, one fact has not changed over the past few years and it did not change last night: I have tremendous respect for both Eric and Dave as racers, period. And I respect them both as quality individuals as well.

eli2448 5/24/09 10:55 PM

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Migdet82 I agree entirely. Very well said. And about the Anderson Herald they tend to screw things up on a daily basis.

When steele went to pass adams a second time after spinning him the first time he nearly took him out yet again.

And to Gordan class act.

Honest-Sam 5/25/09 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by e.g. (Post 105694)
I owe my crew an apology for the poor choice of words I used after the race. My crew gave me two great pit stops, I couldn't have asked for a better group. I did not lose the race in the pits. I lost to Dave on the track. In my frustration after the race I used poor judgement in interviews. Dave did what he had to do to win and so did I. What I did was deemed illegal. All of us show up to win. That race means more than most other if not all races. Dave is a driver I always use as a standard of competition at any track. I congratulated Dave and Lynn and his crew after the race. Dave should have won several 500's but had freak deals take them away. I wish him and Lynn all the best on their upcoming nuptuals. I mainly want my team to know they did everything they could and then some to put our car in a position to win, we just got beat. I tried to push the rules like all people in racing have at one time or another and I was penalized, for that I apologize to them.

Thanks Eric. Not for one second did I ever think that you ever meant that you lost it in the pits. Our car isn't the same after last year's crash. Maybe we need a new "old *****". :5:

#9 in '10??

RcrSkyChk 5/25/09 3:31 AM

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I thought it was a great race. I really was pulling for Eric and felt like he had a great run. I still am not convinced as to what happened when steele came off the pits b/c he was not by any means in front of the pace car, but granted also the push truck messed him up. Dave still drove a great race and Eric drove his heart out and came back.

Still my congrats still go out to Donnie Jr. Grew up around watching him and his dad and Donnie ran a great race had a couple close calls (to close if you ask me) including an incident with Steele and managed to have some awesome saves! Donnie ran a great race and so glad he made it to third. He hasn't ran in almost 2 years but the kid still has amazing stamina and strength!

Good job to all the teams that finished! Brandon Whited my brothers team mate managed to hang in there after having some car troubles so i'm proud of him very much too!!!

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Originally Posted by 9racing (Post 105637)
Personal accounts, and the paper backs it up.. maybe you should have been in steeles pit when adams came up and gave him congrats on the win, and the conversation they had.. until then zip your lip hero..

Its funny their was 80 + laps left and you want to say their wouldnt be another caution.. you dont know that!

Adams finished 3 laps down.. not 1.. first off.. and lost 1 from the spin out.. so hmm do the math.. and again lastly, its hard to pass someone on the high side when they are running the middle of the track..

POINT BEING STEELE WON, GORDON WAS OUT OF LINE.. AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONES ON THE GORDON BAND WAGON.. thats fine but dont whine when you lose.. and you lose after blocking on a caution lap.. and then blame on losing the race in the pits.. this post should be renamed everyone who whines like ERIC.. lol other than that its over.. Steele won.. take it to the house! later...

P.s. ELI, sorry for the idiot remark.. it was out of line.. sorry for that..

9Racing not putting down what you said at all. However it may be difficult to pass someone who's running the middle of the track but dave has been around long enough if he had the skill he could have done it. Plus if you watched at all Donnie ran that same line the whole race and he still managed to make many clean passes high and low without ever touching anyone. So steele could have done the same.

Either way still great race and Donnie shows he's a class act b/c he still congratulated him, one small bump and he was over it

Butch47265 5/25/09 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by e.g. (Post 105694)
I owe my crew an apology for the poor choice of words I used after the race. My crew gave me two great pit stops, I couldn't have asked for a better group. I did not lose the race in the pits. I lost to Dave on the track. In my frustration after the race I used poor judgement in interviews. Dave did what he had to do to win and so did I. What I did was deemed illegal. All of us show up to win. That race means more than most other if not all races. Dave is a driver I always use as a standard of competition at any track. I congratulated Dave and Lynn and his crew after the race. Dave should have won several 500's but had freak deals take them away. I wish him and Lynn all the best on their upcoming nuptuals. I mainly want my team to know they did everything they could and then some to put our car in a position to win, we just got beat. I tried to push the rules like all people in racing have at one time or another and I was penalized, for that I apologize to them.

Very well put Eric I think that was most professional words I ever read on her, I still would like to say congraduations to all 33 drivers of 61st LIL500. GOD BLESS youall in the future. Butch Wilkerson #1:22::22::8::22:

767 5/25/09 10:08 PM

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Facts are steel did what he had to do, hands down. Eric ran a very good race to. The only thing I wonder is, if eric had just been rideing around behind steel, not useing up his tires, would steel have been so compelled to boot adams to get that caution? I know this is a race of laps, but he flat got beat by tires. steel waited and had better tire. No matter what i want to thank these 2 drivers for makeing the race fun to watch. there are SEVERAL things the track needs to start working on to improve this race. I'm not sure who the moron was that said every car that gets hauled off with a wrecker gets dropped in the back. I seen a few crews try to make repairs, but couldn't because they did not have enough time. You never know haw this race is going to go, you need every car running possible.


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