MTQRL Fast Facts - May 23rd Lawrenceburg Speedway
 

VINCENNES UNIVERSITY
MIDWEST TQ RACING LEAGUE

May 23rd Fast Facts

Location:
Lawrenceburg Speedway, Lawrenceburg, IN

Track Type/Size:
3/8 mile high banked dirt oval

Classes Competing:
MTQRL three quarter midgets, KISS sprints, AMSA mini sprints, VARC vintage cars

Time Schedule:
Pit Gate Opens – 4:00 pm
General Admission Gates Open – 5:00 pm
Practice – 6:00 pm
Racing Begins – 7:00 pm

Admission Fees:
Pit Pass - $30
General Admission – Adult - $15
General Admission – 7 to 12 - $7
General Admission – 6 & under - Free

Entry Fee:
None

Driver Eligibility:
All drivers must be MTQRL registered members ($25 annual fee). Minimum driver age is 14.

Jackson Oil & Solvents:
A random drawing will be held among all entrants for a racing fuel gift certificate ($50 value).

Qualifications:
No qualifications at this event. Heat races will be lined up by a blind pill draw.

Heat Races:
8 laps, top finishers transfer to the feature.

Semi-Feature:
10 laps (if needed), top finishers transfer to the feature.

Feature:
20 laps, 21 starters. $400 to win, $100 to start, $50 non-transfers.

For More Information:
www.mtqrl.com

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Radios / Raceceivers
 

Radios and/or Raceceivers are not required for the Midwest TQ's at Lawrenceburg.

Raceceivers are MANDATORY for the sprints and mini sprints.

Racecievers can be purchased at the track, or rented for the evening. Remember that
the track does not rent the earpiece. If you are planning on renting a Raceceiver you
need to purchase an earpiece, or bring your own.

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If i am not mistaken is this is the inaugural(sp) event for the MTQRL?? or was the race last fall the first??
Either way i am very excited to see the TQ's race at Lawrenceburg!!:22:

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Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe:
VINCENNES UNIVERSITY
MIDWEST TQ RACING LEAGUE

May 23rd Fast Facts

Location:
Lawrenceburg Speedway, Lawrenceburg, IN

Track Type/Size:
3/8 mile high banked dirt oval

Classes Competing:
MTQRL three quarter midgets, KISS sprints, AMSA mini sprints, VARC vintage cars

Time Schedule:
Pit Gate Opens – 4:00 pm
General Admission Gates Open – 5:00 pm
Practice – 6:00 pm
Racing Begins – 7:00 pm

Admission Fees:
Pit Pass - $30
General Admission – Adult - $15
General Admission – 7 to 12 - $7
General Admission – 6 & under - Free

Entry Fee:
None

Driver Eligibility:
All drivers must be MTQRL registered members ($25 annual fee). Minimum driver age is 14.

Jackson Oil & Solvents:
A random drawing will be held among all entrants for a racing fuel gift certificate ($50 value).

Qualifications:
No qualifications at this event. Heat races will be lined up by a blind pill draw.

Heat Races:
8 laps, top finishers transfer to the feature.

Semi-Feature:
10 laps (if needed), top finishers transfer to the feature.

Feature:
20 laps, 21 starters. $400 to win, $100 to start, $50 non-transfers.

For More Information:
www.mtqrl.com

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Sandy, do you know what the age limit is on kids in the pits? Thanks! Bob

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There is no age limit in the pits, but everyone has to buy a pit pass no matter the age, Thanks, Dave

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Jason and Tate... That was one HELL of a show!!! Thanks to everyone at the Burg! I can not wait untill Madison!

Uncle Charlie

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How was that one hell of a show only 5 cars finished the race

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From what I hear (didnt watch cause I was in the seat) the heat races where real good. And Jason and Tate put on a good show in the feature. Congrats to both....alsoTim Lynch did a great job coming in 3rd. First race for the midwest tq's this year, so everyone is working out bugs and several "new" engines hit the track last night. Track looked great all night so a big thanks to the track prep crew !
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What was the car count? and who won? Five cars is all that finished? lol they must of looked tiny out there lol

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Congratulations To Jason, Tate, and Tim

Jennifer and myself would like to thank all drivers, owners, and fans that came out to support the Midwest TQ racing league. We had a great time and a great job for the first race of the season.

Would like to also thank Dave and the crew at the Track for an awesome track and great crew support. Look forward to being back out at the Burg on Oct 2nd.

Extra special thank you to Charlie, Steve, Bobby, Chad and Sandy.

We look forward to seeing everyone next Sat, May 30th at the Jefferson County Fairgrounds in Madison IN.

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Originally Posted by TqMidget41&84:
From what I hear (didnt watch cause I was in the seat) the heat races where real good. And Jason and Tate put on a good show in the feature. Congrats to both....alsoTim Lynch did a great job coming in 3rd. First race for the midwest tq's this year, so everyone is working out bugs and several "new" engines hit the track last night. Track looked great all night so a big thanks to the track prep crew !
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I'd have to second that, Brett, and as my wife said, a very impressive facility, track prep was just shy of perfect, I think everyone's car counts were down last night, this is a weekend that starts a lot of other activities, and with the Indy 500, and the Coke Cola 600, cookouts, graduations, fuel prices on the rise again, the political uncertinty, maybe we could expect some slowdown in personal activity. Let there be no doubt, the Vincennes University Midwest TQ Racing league is in it for the long haul, and will pick up it's car count, as the season goes on. There was some good racing, early on, and throughout the 20 lap feature, a alot of these cars were on the track for the first time this season, and also included several drivers and owners who were just getting started, plus, as mentioned, several "new" engnes, other than the traditional Honda CB750. I can't help but wonder, when this website goes to a real name only format, how many "posters" will stay, and how many will fade, personally, it can't happen soon enough! Thanks again to the staff at "th Burg", and to the people that took the opportunity to accept the challange! Bob:32:

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fact is the TQ race last night only hurt the image of TQ Racing as a whole.:13:[COLOR="Silver"]

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That's just an opinion, "fanrace". Speaking of imagine, again another posting without a name. We all race because we obviously enjoy it, and it showed in the pits and on the track last night with MTQRL. 17 cars for the second race ever for MTQRL, that is a decent car count for any racing league. So say what you will, we will continue to have fun with whatever negative remarks you have !
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Having fun is great, I just dont think the fans " the people that pay good money too see a race" got any of that last night with the TQ Race, thankfully the sprints and mini sprints were there.

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not Zach Cougill just to clear that up

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I think everybody being negitive about anouther race groups race is childish. if everyone would just expect that there are two race club and that's the way it going to be . No ones asking you to like it but get over your little fits. Here's the way I see it yes it has thined out the number of cars at each race but there are guys that stoped racing for what ever reason that have come back to race. So instead of drawing a line in your sandbox saying don't play on my side. And try to mend the fences and maybe in some chance both clubs will survive and maybe even grow to be what they once was. If the childish things where not going on maybe some racers would run both clubs but I've been made to fell like an outsider just because im running where I can make the most money.so do what's best for the umra try to not repesent them in a negative manner be more professional about your action because the damage you are doing now is going to affect your club next year . If you don't understand that all the track promoters read this site daily and the effect will hurt more than help you. PS.. I went to the race at brownstown and never bashed anyone so please do the same.


Chris Mann
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.Fact is the club was started for the wrong reason and when your new club has hurt tq racing to the point that nobody wants to run we can thank people like you that has DONE NOTHING for tq racing and I mean nothing And I have not one time mentioned another club, TQ RACING as a whole so keep trying to explain why and how and what your going to do for TQ racing because you are sadley mistaken, So think what you may , and let the racing speak for itself, :31:

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Fanrace, are you ashamed to use your real name and feel like you need to hide behind a fake one ? Just curious ?
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why are names so critical to you ? you just dont like hearing facts, truth hurts ?

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Because unlike you I dont want to make this a personal issue, I just want the fans and the racing people know the truth about what kind of show you are trying to put out there, Food for thought... its always good to hear the truth and not to attack people. Dont you agree? Fans are great people they are what make the sport and they should be at the top of the list. and I really dont think they care to waste hard earned money on people trying to say there is going to be 26 to 28 cars and only 17 show up with 5 cars at the finish. so you might want to keep to yourself how great your show is going to be until you have put a effort into one.

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Put effort into a show ? I think you are offending several people and racers by making that comment, but with you hiding your true name its easy for you to do that.
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From my point of view: The MTQRL had a great turnout for the first race. All of the group pitted together and hung out like it was a party and was all having a great time, something you just don't see anymore. The racing was fun to watch, and they put on a great show whenever they was on the track. Sure alot of cars had problems, But for their 1st time out with a brand new series, i think all in all it went really well. We at Lawrenceburg Speedway look forward to seeing the MTQRL in the fall. Best of luck to all of you TQ racers where ever you race.
Thanks, Dave

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You have to start somewhere and last night the first brick was laid in what will be a strong foundation for the MTQRL to build upon.

It would have been nice to have 40 TQ's in the pits, 20 cars starting the feature, 5 cars battling for the lead, and everyone still on the track when the checkers waived. Did I expect this to happen? No. Do I expect this to happen this season? Probably not.

But I do see a bright future for the MTQRL. Mark & Jen Frechette have a vision of where they want the MTQRL to go (and grow) and I have faith in them that they will carry out their plan. It's not going to be easy. It will take a lot of hard work but they are in it for the long haul. If TQ racing can return to its glory days I believe the Frechette's, and the people they surround themselves with, can get the job done.

In 9 short months they have accomplished alot. They have started a racing organization from scratch, acquired a title sponsor (along with several contingency sponsors), and scheduled a 20 race season. They have held 2 races to date and have had 17 cars at each show. There have been 26 different cars compete over those 2 races so I think they have a good base to draw from. Next weekend they will be at the Jefferson Co. Fairgrounds in Madison and I think some of the competitors will feel more comfortable racing at the smaller venue.

Give the MTQRL a chance. Remember Rome wasn't built in a day.

_______________________________________________
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

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From the stands and being a race fan, thats great that they were having a great time in the pits and having a party, , In these hard times fans need and want to get the best show out of the dollar thats so hard to come by these days. So yes I agree best of luck to all, as was said, and the fans will pick whats best for the great dollar.

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Again hurting the sport , no matter how you look at it or how you try to explain it, it hurts tq racing.

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I've run 8 years in UMRA and can remember times there were single digit cars running at the end, and that was with car counts in the 40's. Gas City last year had a great 3 car battle for the lead, with 2 passes for the lead in the last 5 laps, and about 9 cars finishing. The bigger the track, typically the higher the attrition in these cars...heck there's even been races at Rushville with 6 or 7 cars finishing. It happens! 33 cars finishing a race doesn't mean it was a good one.

Nobody said a word about only 20 cars at Brownstown.....it didn't make UMRA look bad, all of the mud slinging makes UMRA look bad. Which is truly unfortunate....Wonder what hurts TQ racing more? A new club's first race of the year with less than a full field of cars or you guys coming on here trying to start a pissing match? Nevermind, I know the answer, unfortunately, some of you don't.



A.J. Nigh
Former UMRA Treasuer and Board Member

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I personally enjoyed the 20 cars that showed up at Brownstown, you all put a really good show in my opinion.

Tony Nunn (front stretch worker at B-Town)

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I watched a couple heats, and what I took from it was that the engines are the problem. Even the cars that were running out front had some sickness in their engines. I think the engine rules need to be updated. Your running engines from the 1970's, and it is lots of work and money to cut a transmission off a motor that was designed to have a trans. Why do you have to conect right to the crank shaft?

If only the rule about having to go direct to the crankshaft were changed the entire world of TQ racing would benfit. Heres why. - The engines could be bought at a fraction of the cost TQ racers are spending now. You can get a complete engine kit for less than one of those down draft heads cost. (There are 2 2007Kaw 636s on E-bay right now for $650 buy it now) All you would need is to have the wiring harness cut (Jeff Barker $175) and a drive shaft coupler like mod lites, dwarf cars, and legend cars run. You can still run a drive shaft through the drivers legs, and to the quick change. You wouldn't need four wheelers anymore because now you would have a clutch and on board starters. Think about how much time it would save to be able to have all the cars start up and take off by them self. Plus not having to buy a 4-wheeler.:6: Look how many mini-sprints had motor problems. Very few.

If you could run a stock engine with the trans, you would see the engine problems go away and a whole lot more of the cars finishing the race. I think the TQ series up east runs engines like these and they are offset so that the drive shaft runs outside the car. Plus they some how have the rules to where 600 mini-sprints can run with them and that helps car count. I don't own a TQ, but if this rule was changed I would! I bet a bunch more people would also.

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run stock 1000cc 750, or 600 engines in them. When you don't mess with them they are some of the most reliable engines out there. Those old engines might do good on the fairground tracks, but on the bigger tracks they really don't have the endurance or power. In the Mini Sprint feature I think only 4-5 cars dropped out, none were for blown motors. So maybe an engine rule would help keep these things have more cars finishing at the end? Just a suggestion, not trying to start problems.

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Thank you for the engine suggestions. That is one of the issues we have our engine development team working on for future seasons. Something we also feel that is very necessary to preserve TQ racing. Don't be afraid to offer suggestions. Our door is always open to those who want to improve racing.

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Originally Posted by fanrace:
.SNIP your new club has hurt tq racing to the point that nobody wants to run we can thank people like you that has DONE NOTHING for tq racing and I mean nothing

Sounds like a squeaky VIOLIN to me...:7:

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
From my point of view: The MTQRL had a great turnout for the first race. All of the group pitted together and hung out like it was a party and was all having a great time, something you just don't see anymore. The racing was fun to watch, and they put on a great show whenever they was on the track. Sure alot of cars had problems, But for their 1st time out with a brand new series, i think all in all it went really well. We at Lawrenceburg Speedway look forward to seeing the MTQRL in the fall. Best of luck to all of you TQ racers where ever you race.
Thanks, Dave

David, you have a world-class race facility with top of the line people running it! I have never been to a better racetrack than yours. It is clean, fast and organized to prefection. Your people are also very kind and helpfull. They made us feel "at home".

Thank you for the opportunity to race with you! :9:

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first i wanna say i wasnt at the burg saturday but i was at brownstown when the umra ran there few weeks ago...and there was only 19 or 20 cars there why all the bashing over how many cars was at the burg? and do you really think the umra put on a good show at brownstown? and from a fans point of view i think the new series is the best thing to ever happen to tq racing ...and as far as lawrenceburg and motor issues i really believe it is way to big of a track for these motors since it was rebuilt...i know we will not run down there anymore with the mini sprint

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Originally Posted by Cincy Dirt Bowl:
I watched a couple heats, and what I took from it was that the engines are the problem. Even the cars that were running out front had some sickness in their engines. I think the engine rules need to be updated. Your running engines from the 1970's, and it is lots of work and money to cut a transmission off a motor that was designed to have a trans. Why do you have to conect right to the crank shaft?

If only the rule about having to go direct to the crankshaft were changed the entire world of TQ racing would benfit. Heres why. - The engines could be bought at a fraction of the cost TQ racers are spending now. You can get a complete engine kit for less than one of those down draft heads cost. (There are 2 2007Kaw 636s on E-bay right now for $650 buy it now) All you would need is to have the wiring harness cut (Jeff Barker $175) and a drive shaft coupler like mod lites, dwarf cars, and legend cars run. You can still run a drive shaft through the drivers legs, and to the quick change. You wouldn't need four wheelers anymore because now you would have a clutch and on board starters. Think about how much time it would save to be able to have all the cars start up and take off by them self. Plus not having to buy a 4-wheeler.:6: Look how many mini-sprints had motor problems. Very few.

If you could run a stock engine with the trans, you would see the engine problems go away and a whole lot more of the cars finishing the race. I think the TQ series up east runs engines like these and they are offset so that the drive shaft runs outside the car. Plus they some how have the rules to where 600 mini-sprints can run with them and that helps car count. I don't own a TQ, but if this rule was changed I would! I bet a bunch more people would also.

First let me say, thanks for your input, I'd like to comment on your type of car, if I may, and that is the wing, which as I've been reading on here, several want to run without, which would be of interest to me, but, back to the engines, the car that won, was running a 600cc Kawasaki, the one that finished 5th, a 600cc Yamaha, the black 55, a 600cc Suzuki, and the car was jumping out of gear, was the reason he pulled in. I personally don't know of any engine failures, most dropouts were for other reasons, I don't, and never have felt, that bigger tracks are harder on engines, if we were to run, say 100 lap races, maybe. One other reason this split has occured is, the original organization was wanting to ban the new engines, and make it a Honda 836 only club, those of us that were branching out, into new technology, would have been left with no where to go. We run what we run, mostly by choice, and if the decision had been made to change everything, now would have been a poor time. Somewhere down the road, someone may decide to go to a out of bike motor, but not right away, we'll see how you get along with your non-wing efforts, and continue to feel out the prospects. Yes, hands down, the new tech engines are cheaper, no special aftermarket parts needed, just buy it, and run it, my Yamaha, a 2000 YZF600R, bought from Ebay, as parts from several engines, was never intended to race, only as a dummy, to see how much was required to change on the chassis, to make it usable, it was installed in Sept of 05, won it's first night heat race, and hasn't been out since, it has over 80 nights of racing on it, and very little done to the "parts" engine, oil changes, and I treat it to a new set of plugs every year. Time will tell, but in the meantime, I imagine we'll keep it pretty much like it is. As for the track size, we ran almost the same gear, that we run at Bloomington and Vernon, and by the way, was that track smooth, or was it smooth? Great job, Dave and crew, we won't be concerned about a return visit. Thanks! Bob McClure:32:

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Originally Posted by tqracerxx:
you just dont like hearing facts, truth hurts ?

Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

Imagine that.....who would have thought a person would actually do that ! lol

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

this is proble two different people that live in the same house like husband and wife.
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Yeah, imagine that. It's typical of what a lot of people, including me, has been trying to say. The other series has to look at themselves in the mirror to see why there was EVER a thought of another series. The people that are trying to "stir the pot" need to start acting like adults and concentrate on doing good things with their series. Go out and put on a good show and move on.

Congrats to the MTQRL for getting their season started, finally! It will only get better, I'm sure.

I think saying that it's a husband and wife is giving way too much credit. It's the same person.

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The fact is...that the MTQRL was only formed to get rid of one particular team, in my opinion. Everyone knows who this team is. This particular team has done nothing more or nothing less than anyone else. I guess this is because they seem to be always held to a "higher standard". Could be due to their success or maybe people just don't like them. As a supporter of many different types of racing, and a spectator of many TQ races, I personally have never seen this particular team do anything that anyone else has not done themselves. However, I have noticed the fines and penalties seem to be far worse for this team. I have yet to figure that out. The MTQRL formed when the founders discovered being a UMRA series sponsor did not give them the right to make racing decisions as a spectator. This seems wrong to me. It seems like they should have tried to work with the UMRA club, since they have been around for 49 yrs, to make things better instead of going out and forming another club.

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This is from Jeff Bruce, First I would like to thank all the crew at Lawarenceburg Speedway. Second I'd like to say that I am sorry to everyone that I could Not get my car running properly. I don't have alot of money to put a car on the track and so this is just a very expencieve hoby for me. I do not go to the track knowing my car was not running properly but after hot laps I found out different. This race has just a test sesion for us because I've only had the car for 6 weeks or so and it was at ACRA Eng. for 3 weeks and a day. ( thank u Acra the drive line was great). I guess my biggest problem is I love tq racing. I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone.

P.S. thanks to my kids for making me look like an arcade champ.LOL

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Originally Posted by scooter99:
This is from Jeff Bruce, First I would like to thank all the crew at Lawarenceburg Speedway. Second I'd like to say that I am sorry to everyone that I could Not get my car running properly. I don't have alot of money to put a car on the track and so this is just a very expencieve hoby for me. I do not go to the track knowing my car was not running properly but after hot laps I found out different. This race has just a test sesion for us because I've only had the car for 6 weeks or so and it was at ACRA Eng. for 3 weeks and a day. ( thank u Acra the drive line was great). I guess my biggest problem is I love tq racing. I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone.

P.S. thanks to my kids for making me look like an arcade champ.LOL

Jeff, Thanks, and thank you for bringing out your car to Lawrenceburg. I hope you get it figured out and have alot of fun this season.
Take care, Dave

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Originally Posted by scooter99:
...I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone.

My thoughts exactly. If both groups want to do their own thing, I can respect that too. But the negative bashing of both groups, regardless who its done by, needs to end. Nobody wins and we all look worse.