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Thanks for posting chris.:8: I see that there are also some on http://www.jackslash.com/main_page_2.html.:6:

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Nice clip...The only thing i would have liked to have shown was how Robert Bulldozer (sp?) got to where he was. I'm referring to when he spun Cone about half way through the race and when he pulled a suicide slide on cummins with 3 or 4 to go. The only reason multiple cars werent trashed on that move was because Cummins let off to keep them both on all fours. I guess Ballou is going to have to get taken out a few more times before he realizes its no fun. He's an excellent driver and obviously fearless, but use your head kid! Keep up the good work Chris.

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Originally Posted by farriswheel:
Nice clip...The only thing i would have liked to have shown was how Robert Bulldozer (sp?) got to where he was. I'm referring to when he spun Cone about half way through the race and when he pulled a suicide slide on cummins with 3 or 4 to go. The only reason multiple cars werent trashed on that move was because Cummins let off to keep them both on all fours. I guess Ballou is going to have to get taken out a few more times before he realizes its no fun. He's an excellent driver and obviously fearless, but use your head kid! Keep up the good work Chris.

I guess thats supposed to be subjective with a Cummins Pic on your name :)
He was around him and around him fully IMHO, Cummins had the option of diamonding and going back under him. If its not Robert, Its Levi, Hockett or someone else going to do it.

Tell me they don't do this a hundred times a night at Haubstadt?
BTW, Heres two racers throwing slides the whole race and neither went upside down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NoN0-iC20k

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I guess thats supposed to be subjective with a Cummins Pic on your name :)
He was around him and around him fully IMHO, Cummins had the option of diamonding and going back under him. If its not Robert, Its Levi, Hockett or someone else going to do it.

Tell me they don't do this a hundred times a night at Haubstadt?
BTW, Heres two racers throwing slides the whole race and neither went upside down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NoN0-iC20k

Charles, I respect your opinion...but I think you are mistaken on this one. They were driver to driver when cummins got pinned between Ballou and the wall. I agree slidejobs are a part of racing...and they are a beautiful sight when done correctly. BUT, that was a bonzai move and it was stated in another post by a different poster that if cummins hadn't lifted atleast his car would have been in multiple pieces. I just know that the 3c team doesnt necessarily have the funds to tear up a race car and put a whole new one back together.

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Originally Posted by farriswheel:
Charles, I respect your opinion...but I think you are mistaken on this one. They were driver to driver when cummins got pinned between Ballou and the wall. I agree slidejobs are a part of racing...and they are a beautiful sight when done correctly. BUT, that was a bonzai move and it was stated in another post by a different poster that if cummins hadn't lifted atleast his car would have been in multiple pieces. I just know that the 3c team doesnt necessarily have the funds to tear up a race car and put a whole new one back together.

That was me who posted that. I'll agree it was a wicked move. I don't condone it but Kyle could have done the same thing in which Robert would have had to lift. Not saying he would.

BTW, Kyle looked good Sat night.
Chuck

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As a neutral observer of these past comments, I choose to side with Steve, Uh, I mean farriswheel!

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Originally Posted by 3Cfan:
As a neutral observer of these past comments, I choose to side with Steve, Uh, I mean farriswheel!

LOL, We'll meet again as they say :) Stay safe, have fun.

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Originally Posted by :
As a neutral observer of these past comments, I choose to side with Steve, Uh, I mean farriswheel!

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
LOL, We'll meet again as they say :) Stay safe, have fun.

LOL you also have a cummins avatar so I don't know if that would be looked at as "neutral". But I know Kyle could have made that move, but he doesn't drive that way because he knows the value of equipment and in his case, a torn up racecar may mean not being able to race for a week or two. As far as him looking good, he seems pretty pumped about the new things they are trying with the car. He has only been out twice and was fast last week at Tri-state just jumped the cushion late in the race and again at Florence. I told him if he keeps driving like he is, the wins will come. See everyone at The Action Track Thursday and The Class Track SUnday:8:

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Originally Posted by farriswheel:
Nice clip...The only thing i would have liked to have shown was how Robert Bulldozer (sp?) got to where he was. I'm referring to when he spun Cone about half way through the race and when he pulled a suicide slide on cummins with 3 or 4 to go. The only reason multiple cars werent trashed on that move was because Cummins let off to keep them both on all fours. I guess Ballou is going to have to get taken out a few more times before he realizes its no fun. He's an excellent driver and obviously fearless, but use your head kid! Keep up the good work Chris.

I was at Florence and seen the bonehead moves by Ballou. He was driving like Kevin Swindell, if he can't pass you, he will just knock you off the track.

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Robert's contact was not limited to other cars. He tried to knock the wall down a couple of times.

I don't believe Robert was guilty of intentional rough driving... I think he was guilty of racing his a$$ off trying to get to the checkers, which he almost did. I have to admit, he sure is fun to watch...!

Joe

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Originally Posted by David Lynch:
I was at Florence and seen the bonehead moves by Ballou. He was driving like Kevin Swindell, if he can't pass you, he will just knock you off the track.

LOL, Thats like the pot calling the kettle black Heres swindell/ballou curtosy of highvista.

Sorry can't find clip but Swindell was going on and on about how Robert blocked him on the final lap of the 2007 MSCS Burg Nationals.

I believe that was the second time Ballou put the slide on in the feature. the first time he backed out

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Geez to hear some of you this whole "racing" concept should be polite and lady like. Maybe we should post a list of who gets to take turns going first in the races? "oh no robert you got to go first last time its cummins turn this week so you have to let him in front".

I thought the point was to race... Besides he cleared him...there was no contact and Kyle had options to make a move and block him. Also btw saw cone and ballou talking after the show and things seemed fine so he wasn't upset.
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Originally Posted by nonwingnit:
Geez to hear some of you this whole "racing" concept should be polite and lady like. Maybe we should post a list of who gets to take turns going first in the races? "oh no robert you got to go first last time its cummins turn this week so you have to let him in front".

I thought the point was to race... Besides he cleared him...there was no contact and Kyle had options to make a move and block him. Also btw saw cone and ballou talking after the show and things seemed fine so he wasn't upset.
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Not saying that at all...he was far from clear and the only option Kyle had was to bail out...he got pinned 3/4 of the way through 1 and 2...with the slick track, there was no way to diamond the corner at that point in time because it was such a bonzai move. I'm sure u are an unbiased fan...this being your first post and all. I have nothing wrong with earning your spot, but it was a dirty move. As far as hud and Ballou...hud wasn't happy when it first happened because he drove up beside Robert after he was pushed off and gestured. Anyway...thanks for your opinion...everyone is entitled to theirs.

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Originally Posted by Pushtruck:
Robert's contact was not limited to other cars. He tried to knock the wall down a couple of times.

I don't believe Robert was guilty of intentional rough driving... I think he was guilty of racing his a$$ off trying to get to the checkers, which he almost did. I have to admit, he sure is fun to watch...!

Joe

I agree...I dont think it was intentional, I guess I am just a fan of the fastest car and best driver winning. I hate to see slidejobs gone wrong and unfortunate breaks. I guess thats why I was never a fan of Dale Earnhardt.

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I agree...I dont think it was intentional, I guess I am just a fan of the fastest car and best driver winning. I hate to see slidejobs gone wrong and unfortunate breaks. I guess thats why I was never a fan of Dale Earnhardt.[/QUOTE]

I think Robert was the faster car and I know he's the better driver:16 But it was a boneheaded move:14:

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I like em both don't get me wrong. But I know robert doesn't have an unlimited budget either and doesn't want a car tore up. If he made a move I would bet he thought it was clear. If it had been ballou and darland I bet darland would have gave him the spot but then set it down low to drag race him on the straight to pass him back. Kyle didn't do that. But they're both good drivers and it was a great race.
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Originally Posted by nonwingnit:
I like em both don't get me wrong. But I know robert doesn't have an unlimited budget either and doesn't want a car tore up. If he made a move I would bet he thought it was clear. If it had been ballou and darland I bet darland would have gave him the spot but then set it down low to drag race him on the straight to pass him back. Kyle didn't do that. But they're both good drivers and it was a great race.
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ok...I'll give you that. We all had different vantage points...and I don't think anybody was cutting underneath anybody on that track after they had committed to the top. I wish Chris Nunn would post the rest of the video so we could set this debate to rest :)

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Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA:
I agree...I dont think it was intentional, I guess I am just a fan of the fastest car and best driver winning. I hate to see slidejobs gone wrong and unfortunate breaks. I guess thats why I was never a fan of Dale Earnhardt.

I think Robert was the faster car and I know he's the better driver:16 But it was a boneheaded move:14:[/QUOTE]

I agree to disagree about the car thing...and as far as the better driver...yes, he has had a more prominent career. Atleast you saw the move the way I did...he is a heckuva driver tho. i'm always excited to see him in the pit area at any track.

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I have no dog in this fight.... but 99.9% of this board likes and respects Dave Darland..... so I would ask this question.

If DD was in Kyle's spot, what would DD have done? Or Stanbrough.... Cottle.... any one of those drivers?

Robert is a hard charging driver..... I think everyone knows that. In that situation I don't see him lifting.... and he didn't. I know Kyle is as good a driver as Ballou. I really don't think Kyle would have lifted had the roles been reversed. Purely my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ThrottleHead:
I have no dog in this fight.... but 99.9% of this board likes and respects Dave Darland..... so I would ask this question.

If DD was in Kyle's spot, what would DD have done? Or Stanbrough.... Cottle.... any one of those drivers?

Robert is a hard charging driver..... I think everyone knows that. In that situation I don't see him lifting.... and he didn't. I know Kyle is as good a driver as Ballou. I really don't think Kyle would have lifted had the roles been reversed. Purely my opinion.

Honestly, haha I think most anybody else would have stayed on the gas and we would have seen a reinactment of the Hunter-Ballou incident at Kokomo a couple weeks ago. Thanks for your input Don. Saw ya at Florence and u looked all business :6:. Thanks for the work u put in.

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Both drivers are safe, No cars were tore up and we saw some great racin by some great teams and cars at a track that SUX for Sprints LOL.
:)

I'll be there in the fall :)