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racefan20 5/9/09 8:51 PM

Haubstadt Updates
 
Courtesy of me being lazy after a day at IMS and Jerry Shaw at the track

Heat 1
25 Nigg 26 Cr Gentry
10f Fitzpatrick 11 Levi
14 Cone 4m Memmer
21s Bland 48 Deckard
21k S Krockenberger
Finish: 11, 10f, 14, 21s....4m, 48, 25, 21k

Heat 2
32 Stockton 39 Clauson
35 Babcock 79 M Humphrey
68 Hendrick 3ac AJ Clark
7s Seiler X Cummins
07 Schurenberg
Finish: 39, 32, 07, X.....35, 68, 7s, 3ac, 79

Heat 3
17s Faas 1x Gross
71 B Cummings 9k K Thomas Jr
11p Holtzclaw 15 D Gentry
5b C Briscoe 27 Kaplan
21e E Krockenberger
Finish: 17s, 11p, 27, 71......1x, 5b, 9k, 21e

Heat 4
39 Goodnight 17 Windom
5 Weir 28 Mattox
1 Trunnel 61 Co Gentry
15w K Wissmiller 11w R Williams
98g Gerhardt
Finish: 17, 11w, 15w, 28...39, 98,61, 1, 5
Yes thats Scotty Weir in the Baldwin car

B main transfers
1X, 4M, 48, 35

A lineup
39 11
17 17s
10f 32
11p 11w
14 07
27 15w
21s X
71 28
1X 4M
48 35
9x(provisional)

4 laps in Bland flips and is out of the car and OK. Clauson leads Levi 2nd
BC flips on the restart, having a conversation with the medics

Its a full moon tonight, looks like alot of crashes, record number of yellows at Darlington tonight too

3 to go
Faas, Levi, Windon, Fitzpatrick, K Wissmiller
Levi had passed Faas but gave it back after Kaplan spun

Levi wins, Windom, Faas, Fitzpatrick, K Wissmiller

petey 5/9/09 9:32 PM

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Thanks guys!

SpRiNtBeBe 5/9/09 9:49 PM

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what happened to weir??
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bayless 5/9/09 9:58 PM

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What went wrong with Wier in his heat??

racefan20 5/9/09 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SpRiNtBeBe:
what happened to weir??
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Broke while running 2nd in his heat

Gail 5/9/09 10:17 PM

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Thanks for all the updates.

Go BC and Kaplan!!
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racefan20 5/9/09 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gail:

Go BC
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:6:

bobO 5/9/09 11:12 PM

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[QUOTE=Gail;102122]Thanks for all the updates.

thank very much:9: :8:

Polker 5/9/09 11:54 PM

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Anybody know whayt happened to hunter
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arctic monkey21 5/9/09 11:55 PM

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Way to go Levi!! Finally got that win at Haubstadt. Hope he's got a ride for Gas City on Friday.

racefan20 5/10/09 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Polker:
Anybody know whayt happened to hunter
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Spun early and left on the hook

midmad68 5/10/09 12:13 AM

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BC has had some aweful luck this season...good run nic!

farriswheel 5/10/09 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Spun early and left on the hook

Actually...he got ran over before the start of the feature by the red 15...same guy that nearly took out a number of drivers with slidejobs and coming up the track on the straightaways. IMO, Bonehead move of the night. Another example of a guy trying to win the race on the first lap; or before!!! All in all, GREAT night of racing. Congrats Levi and everybody else who finished the night with a complete racecar. Hope BC is ok.

Flatrightrear 5/10/09 12:37 AM

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You could have thrown a blanket over Fass, Levi and Windom the last five laps. Heck of a race to the finish. Track superb. Tom

sprint38racer 5/10/09 12:49 AM

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Great night at Tri-State, exciting finish with Levi and Windom. Hard crash by BC, Bland had a pretty tough spill also. Even the tin tops put on a good show

sprintjf 5/10/09 12:58 AM

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So your not suppose to drift up on the straightaways? According to farriswheel, the red 15 "nearly" took out cars, but didn't. And from what I remember, It was coming to get the green when he got into Hunter and everybody got stacked up.

farriswheel 5/10/09 1:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sprintjf:
So your not suppose to drift up on the straightaways? According to farriswheel, the red 15 "nearly" took out cars, but didn't. And from what I remember, It was coming to get the green when he got into Hunter and everybody got stacked up.

Actually...he ran into Hunter before they entered turn 3. As far as coming to the outside on the straightaways, yes, that is usually the quicked way around the track, but if another car is outside of you, they have the right to their line. My opinion, but I probably don't know anything. The only reason more cars werent taken out is because they stayed on the gas and avoided collisions, which is the name of the game...especially tonight. Sorry, I'm just not a big fan of dirty drivers. It tears up equipment and I hate to see people's hard earned dollars they put into their machines being destroyed because of wreckless driving.

sprintjf 5/10/09 1:21 AM

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Well at least you said you don't know anything so I didn't have to. Did he get into anybody on the straightaways? From what I recall he didn't. These cars don't have mirrors, and slidejobs are part of racing and there has to be some give and take.

coachmeece 5/10/09 1:41 AM

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WAY TO GO LEVI

BC TOOK A RIDE BUT was all smiles in the pits his knees were pretty banged up

racephoto1 5/10/09 1:51 AM

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I am on my way home, I am sending these from Vincennes. If you missed this show, the last 5 laps were some of the best racing I have seen in a long time. Jones, Faas , and Windom raced their a$$e$ off. BC took a wild one, I missed Blands , but from what was left it was rough. I am putting two shots here. Levi, and one of BC. More later, I'm going home.

ClaytonYeley 5/10/09 2:26 AM

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That was a great race for the lead. Once again another perfect racing surface put on by the Tri-State gang. The Hunter deal was unfortunate but the fact is the top lane basically stopped and Kyle Wissmiller had nowhere to go. Kyle's driving style is not even close to dirty so I don't know what you are talking about. If slide jobs are dirty than there are 36 other drivers that are guilty of it.

Jerry Shaw 5/10/09 2:56 AM

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First off, thanks to Trent Hetser for getting me some lineup info, after the drivers meeting. It made doing updates a hell of a lot easier. And John for putting the info up on the board.

The track was great (as usual) and so was the race. Especially the last four laps. With two to go, you really had no idea who was going to win. Faas, Levi and Windom all had a shot. For a lot of the race Levi and Windom just went at it tooth and nail. IMO, it was the best battle of the night. And BC was flying. If he hadn't lost his battle with the cushion, maybe nobody would have had anything for him.

I'm thankful that Nic Faas made it out East to race, this year. This early in the season, he's already hit pay dirt once and has been right in the thick of things several other times, with a chance to win. And he, Levi, Windom, BC and Fitzpatrick waged quite a war tonight, all racing each other cleanly. Great night at the races. Especially when you consider these guys had over four inches of rain in the last day, to overcome.

Jerry

Motormasher 5/10/09 3:08 AM

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Hunter got a flat RR tire on the drop of the green and they didn't wait or give him time to change it.

Wallsracing 5/10/09 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Hunter got a flat RR tire on the drop of the green and they didn't wait or give him time to change it.

thats good you break your out ...thats what takes up time..they killed enough time trying to reline the cars

havoline42 5/10/09 9:57 AM

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man what a race, i am just a nonwing kinda guy, the outlaws are fast but they dont race as much as these guys, i wished someone had a picture of Levi goin across the finish with the front tires bout FOOT IN THE AIR!!!! i hope BC is ok and Bland took some rough tumbles, also glad to finally see Nick Faas run heard lot bout him but his tires were gone and couldnt hold off Levi!

crawfordsville410fans 5/10/09 9:58 AM

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thanks for the great pics

Rpracing1 5/10/09 10:02 AM

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WOW!!! In my guesstimate, no less than 5 lead changes by the top 3 cars in the last 3 laps!!!!!!!

Absolutely amazing....................Tri-State outdoes itself again............. Congrats to Walker and Levi...

rkhracing 5/10/09 12:09 PM

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Who is BC?

TRUCKER D 5/10/09 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by farriswheel:
Actually...he got ran over before the start of the feature by the red 15...same guy that nearly took out a number of drivers with slidejobs and coming up the track on the straightaways. IMO, Bonehead move of the night. Another example of a guy trying to win the race on the first lap; or before!!! All in all, GREAT night of racing. Congrats Levi and everybody else who finished the night with a complete racecar. Hope BC is ok.

That was the crapiest start you could of had. the guy in the 15 ran over hunter before they even got in to the corner. i could not tell weather hunter had just a flat or not. but that was bull and if it was just a flat they should of let him change the tire and get back out there even if he tagged the tail. they should have never let that be the start of the race it should not have been 1lap scored it should of been 0laps scored and a complete resart. but what do i know:15:

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Originally Posted by TRUCKER D:
That was the crapiest start you could of had. the guy in the 15 ran over hunter before they even got in to the corner. i could not tell weather hunter had just a flat or not. but that was bull and if it was just a flat they should of let him change the tire and get back out there even if he tagged the tail. they should have never let that be the start of the race it should not have been 1lap scored it should of been 0laps scored and a complete resart. but what do i know:15:

great night of racing thow

Jerry Shaw 5/10/09 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rkhracing:
Who is BC?

Clauson

Big Willy 5/10/09 12:39 PM

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I agree that having a problem on an initial start is a bad deal. Great race but the fans would have gotten a bit more entertainment value for their dollar had Hunter been allowed to continue especially from the tail. The rules clearly state though that if a car leaves the track or has a flat other than the LF they are done. Sam's new SCORA series has the same bad rule so he probably came up with the rule initially and the new MSCS never changed it. Fans should petition to MSCS that in the event of a flat tire on an initial start only, the racer should have the chance to change it and start on the tail. Maybe Jason can let us know if this is a possiblity...

kylecumminsfan 5/10/09 12:41 PM

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jw why he was not allowed to change his tire?? i thought in the past they had a time limit to change.. last night was a great race.. congrats to levi!! glad to see BC and Bland were alright after they both took a wild ride..

ClaytonYeley 5/10/09 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Hunter got a flat RR tire on the drop of the green and they didn't wait or give him time to change it.

I have a feeling this may have been discussed in the drivers meeting. Everyone I saw who had a flat took it to the pits. Scockon had a flat and he got out of the car as if he knew he was done. Not sure what happened to Hud maybe same thing.

Motormasher 5/10/09 1:02 PM

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Hud broke a spring off his front axle, don't remember what side but he couldn't fix it quick enough to get back out.

Myself I couldn't beleive that they packed down a PERFECT cushion between every heat race and to top it off went out and worked what cushion that was left down in intermission, so when it came time to race they didn't want to wait on any of the cars that were involved on that 1st lap incident because of "time"???

I also couldn't believe the anouncer kept "bragging" about "2 mega flips" like that was the most exciting thing about sprint cars.???

The last 3 laps between Levi, Faas and Windom was totally Awesome!!! :8:

Hated to see BC go out like he did, he definetly had em covered. Then he was down in the pits signing autographs after it was over, limping around (because he was in so much pain) shows this guys a real winner. I was very impressed with BC!

farriswheel 5/10/09 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonYeley:
That was a great race for the lead. Once again another perfect racing surface put on by the Tri-State gang. The Hunter deal was unfortunate but the fact is the top lane basically stopped and Kyle Wissmiller had nowhere to go. Kyle's driving style is not even close to dirty so I don't know what you are talking about. If slide jobs are dirty than there are 36 other drivers that are guilty of it.

I'm not saying he was driving dirty...I know wissmillers have never driven that way, which is why it surprised me. Slidejobs are part of racing...sometimes that is the only way to pass, but I'm referring to the straightaways. I'm sure most of you were watching the top 3 or 4 so u didn't even see what I'm talking about but that is the group of cars I was watching the whole time. Its no wonder guys are getting hurt every week.

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Originally Posted by TRUCKER D:
That was the crapiest start you could of had. the guy in the 15 ran over hunter before they even got in to the corner. i could not tell weather hunter had just a flat or not. but that was bull and if it was just a flat they should of let him change the tire and get back out there even if he tagged the tail. they should have never let that be the start of the race it should not have been 1lap scored it should of been 0laps scored and a complete resart. but what do i know:15:

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great night of racing thow

I agree...thanks for backing me up on that. I'm not trying to bash anyone...just hope people use their heads a little more so we fans can enjoy more than 15 cars racing at the end of the year.

sprintgal 5/10/09 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Hud broke a spring off his front axle, don't remember what side but he couldn't fix it quick enough to get back out.

Myself I couldn't beleive that they packed down a PERFECT cushion between every heat race and to top it off went out and worked what cushion that was left down in intermission, so when it came time to race they didn't want to wait on any of the cars that were involved on that 1st lap incident because of "time"???

I also couldn't believe the anouncer kept "bragging" about "2 mega flips" like that was the most exciting thing about sprint cars.???

The last 3 laps between Levi, Faas and Windom was totally Awesome!!! :8:

Hated to see BC go out like he did, he definetly had em covered. Then he was down in the pits signing autographs after it was over, limping around (because he was in so much pain) shows this guys a real winner. I was very impressed with BC!


Just incase some of you don't know, it was not Jason Adams who was bragging about the 2 flips..that was Alan Beck.

As for the racing, it was fantastic! Was glad that Jeff and Bryan were ok..and congrats to Levi on the win. It could have been any of the top 3 taking the checkers! Had a great time talking to Dirtfan and the Mrs.!!

TRUCKER D 5/10/09 3:41 PM

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[QUOTE=sprintjf;102171]So your not suppose to drift up on the straightaways? According to farriswheel, the red 15 "nearly" took out cars, but didn't. And from what I remember, It was coming to get the green when he got into Hunter and everybody got stacked up.[/QUOT


yep he did get in to hunter and that start was **** and should of been restarted from what i seen hunter never had a chance to even take off the 15 took off way before the leaders even took off i understand trying to get a jump on the next guy but dont drive over the top of them that is dirty driving theres no question about that

Big Willy 5/10/09 4:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Hud broke a spring off his front axle, don't remember what side but he couldn't fix it quick enough to get back out.

Myself I couldn't beleive that they packed down a PERFECT cushion between every heat race and to top it off went out and worked what cushion that was left down in intermission, so when it came time to race they didn't want to wait on any of the cars that were involved on that 1st lap incident because of "time"???

I also couldn't believe the anouncer kept "bragging" about "2 mega flips" like that was the most exciting thing about sprint cars.???

The last 3 laps between Levi, Faas and Windom was totally Awesome!!! :8:

Hated to see BC go out like he did, he definetly had em covered. Then he was down in the pits signing autographs after it was over, limping around (because he was in so much pain) shows this guys a real winner. I was very impressed with BC!


Wow Motormouth you are some piece of work... First off as I eluded to earlier, the series rules (MSCS and SCORA which you committed to race with Saturday and didn't by the way) both state that you can't come back on the track after leaving, it had nothing to do with "time". Secondly if they would not have stayed on top of that race track it would have had a 3' ledge - not a cushion - and more cars could have possibly been torn up let alone drivers taking a chance on being injured. As stated before it sure would be nice for you to either promote your own speedway and/or series so rookies like the Helfrich family and their employees could learn a thing or two.

racefan20 5/10/09 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by big willy:
wow motormouth you are some piece of work... First off as i eluded to earlier, the series rules (mscs and scora which you committed to race with saturday and didn't by the way) both state that you can't come back on the track after leaving, it had nothing to do with "time". Secondly if they would not have stayed on top of that race track it would have had a 3' ledge - not a cushion - and more cars could have possibly been torn up let alone drivers taking a chance on being injured. As stated before it sure would be nice for you to either promote your own speedway and/or series so rookies like the helfrich family and their employees could learn a thing or two.

:5: :8:

Rpracing1 5/10/09 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Hud broke a spring off his front axle, don't remember what side but he couldn't fix it quick enough to get back out.

Myself I couldn't beleive that they packed down a PERFECT cushion between every heat race and to top it off went out and worked what cushion that was left down in intermission, so when it came time to race they didn't want to wait on any of the cars that were involved on that 1st lap incident because of "time"???

I also couldn't believe the anouncer kept "bragging" about "2 mega flips" like that was the most exciting thing about sprint cars.???

The last 3 laps between Levi, Faas and Windom was totally Awesome!!! :8:

Hated to see BC go out like he did, he definetly had em covered. Then he was down in the pits signing autographs after it was over, limping around (because he was in so much pain) shows this guys a real winner. I was very impressed with BC!

Anybody who questions Helfrich's working of a racetrack is clueless. He is a master at what he does. Track was absolutely flawless all night long. This after 4" of rain in the days preceding Sat. I did not hear an announcer "brag" about "mega flips". Beck is a retired seasoned veteran announcer who comes back as needed and does a good job. Sounds as if someone just may be a little bit jealous of the whole situation.


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