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Dyno Don 4/20/09 2:47 PM

Gas City
 
Why do not the promoters of I69 Speedway go to Bloomington or Lawrencebug and learn how to prepare a track for a nights worth of racing.

Friday night was a joke. Two hours of track prep. and maybe an hour or so of racing is not my idea of a fun evening.

Gas City will get one more chance when I go there for Midget Week, if they screw up then, I am done with them. There are too many other tracks that get track prep. right to put up with I69 Dust City.

Jerry Shaw 4/20/09 2:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno Don (Post 97907)
Why do not the promoters of I69 Speedway go to Bloomington or Lawrencebug and learn how to prepare a track for a nights worth of racing.

Friday night was a joke. Two hours of track prep. and maybe an hour or so of racing is not my idea of a fun evening.

Gas City will get one more chance when I go there for Midget Week, if they screw up then, I am done with them. There are too many other tracks that get track prep. right to put up with I69 Dust City.

It was the first race of the year. Under a new promoter. The feature was great! I think you just like being miserable.

Jerry

AERO410SCJA 4/20/09 2:59 PM

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Have you every been too Bloomington:confused:
That place gets black top to bottom alot.

I think the CREW AT GAS CITY did a great job of bringing the track back:respect:

hoosierfan 4/20/09 3:05 PM

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Sure the weather through the week had something to do with it as well
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Dyno Don 4/20/09 3:06 PM

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First off the track at Gas City has been a dust bowl for a long time. A new operator has done nothing to improve the track.

As for as Bloomington goes, sure it does sometimes take rubber, but after a whole night of racing with no additional track prep.

Let me guess, you are the same people that put your blankets down for the year on the top row and believe Dust City can do no wrong.

You should have been at The Burg. Saturday night and seen what a great track looks like.

Amen

SP Motorsports 4/20/09 3:30 PM

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I was not at Gas City this week, so I don't know about the conditions first hand, I heard that they had to work on it during the program.

I can share first hand knowledge that last year I saw two shows at Gas City. The track was great both times. It was smooth and not dusty. One of the two nights I remember marveling at how tacky the track was AFTER the features.

PJ Wright 4/20/09 3:49 PM

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Them only complaint I've got about Friday night at Gas City is that I wasn't able to be there.

racefan20 4/20/09 3:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA (Post 97909)
Have you every been too Bloomington:confused:
That place gets black top to bottom alot.

I think the CREW AT GAS CITY did a great job of bringing the track back:respect:

Agree about Dick bringing the track back at GC, it was really racy for the feature. You arent at Bloomington enough to cast aspersions about the quality of the surface there Aero.

SUPERDUKE 4/20/09 4:09 PM

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How long and how many times did they work on the track at lawrenceburg?

BrentTFunk 4/20/09 4:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE (Post 97923)
How long and how many times did they work on the track at lawrenceburg?

Only had to pack the top a couple of times. I went to both shows and I have no complaints about either. I thought the delay was well worth the wait. Of course some people were probably too miserable to realize what they saw. I wonder if some of the people who complained about Manzanita will find something else to complain about. I would pay again to see the same show at both tracks.

Kirk Spridgeon 4/20/09 4:50 PM

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Pretty poor effort early in the night at Gas City was almost completely forgotten by the end because of the outstanding surface for the feature! My only hope is that my next trip to Gas City offers those kind of conditions for the entire night, not just the semi and feature.

AERO410SCJA 4/20/09 4:53 PM

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I normally make 5 or 6 shows a year hoover and the track is black top to bottom atleast half the time.That doesn't mean the racing is bad.Just pointing out that Bloomington isn't perfect every night and if Mike doesn't have enuff water on the track from the start it's going to be black.

Don when the surface sucks at Gas City I say that(for the heats it did)If you don't have an extra hour and 15 minutes for track prep I can't help ya, but you have to admit the racing was better after.

PS Weren't you mad at BOZO for poor track prep last year:rolleyes:

PSS hoover get off the pills and join Shaw on the back stretch:Ouch
sorry couldn't help myself:rolling

Fisher79 4/20/09 5:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hoosierfan (Post 97911)
Sure the weather through the week had something to do with it as well
Posted via Mobile Device

I really don't think that was the case. There was water in all the fields heading over, but the weather was clear in the days leading up to the show and the forecast for dry weather was dead on. I think they just stepped on it and sealed whatever mositure was there too deep.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 97940)
Pretty poor effort early in the night at Gas City was almost completely forgotten by the end because of the outstanding surface for the feature! My only hope is that my next trip to Gas City offers those kind of conditions for the entire night, not just the semi and feature.

.....but Kirk's right, by the end of the night it didn't really matter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 97920)
Agree about Dick bringing the track back at GC, it was really racy for the feature. You arent at Bloomington enough to cast aspersions about the quality of the surface there Aero.

I think Bloomington is a great race track, a great facility and I definitely appreciate the history of the place. But come on, it has routinely gotten blacker than the ace of spades for as long as I've been around. I'm not sure I ever remember it staying tacky the whole night like Lawrenceburg did on Saturday or what we see every week up here in Howard County. Not a jab at Mike Miles either, I think it more than likely has a lot to do with the red clay.

LittleRube 4/20/09 6:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA (Post 97942)

Don when the surface sucks at Gas City I say that(for the heats it did)If you don't have an extra hour and 15 minutes for track prep I can't help ya, but you have to admit the racing was better after.

PS Weren't you mad at BOZO for poor track prep last year:rolleyes:

An hour and 15 minutes that equals about 4 hotdogs for us Rubes...:eek:

riskybrisky5 4/20/09 6:08 PM

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Can I ask why it is a problem if the track gets a little slick. As a fan all I ask for is good side by side racing. For me personally it is not about the speed it is the closeness and wheel to wheel. When a track is able to produce guys coming from mid pack to the front. Friday at Bloomington it was slick with a cushion and a bottom. That is what I feel all we can ask for. Brady Short started 10Th and went on to win the race. Beauchamp started 20Th and came to 6Th. Make Bloomington tacky and Brady may have got to 6Th and Beauchamp 12Th. Most tracks not all tracks when they are tacky fast are one groove. Yes they provide speed and crashes but a lot of pole winners. Now I agree when the track gets so slick that it becomes follow the leader that is a freight train race as well. This is just my opinion as a fan when I am watching. Some of the best race's I have watched were slick with a bottom and top.

dshort36 4/20/09 6:16 PM

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i to do not mind black slick.. bloomington friday night was racy from top to bottom all night because too much water was not applied..... also when a track is to wet it is usally very rough as i have seen many times at gas city...ill take the smooth slick anytime .... bloomington was great friday night and the burg was nice also... just would like to see it a little smoother..

Kirk Spridgeon 4/20/09 6:22 PM

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Bloomington is definitely a track that needs to get a little slick to be racy. I've seen some nights where it stayed tacky all night, but the races just weren't that good! As long as Bloomington has a good cushion all the way around and a little somethin' on the bottom, it will be a good show. Last year's Sprintweek race was about perfect when it comes to conditions for the red clay.

Dave Rudisell 4/20/09 6:43 PM

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Folks, Please be nice....Gas City, Bloomington, and all the rest work very hard on thier track. Its dirt and it can go either way all the time. The weather plays a HUGE roll in prepping a track, everything from humidity to clouds. Its a tricky call when to water, how much to water, when to grade, when to sheepsfoot....on and on.
Equipment is another valuable tool.....you gotta have water trucks, sheepsfoot, and tractors and much more. Keeping this equipment running and working is a chore sometimes. We at Lawrenceburg spent alot of money on new equipment this spring, we bought a 4,000 gallon water truck, a vibratory sheeps foot and built a cool drag. Last week was a hell week for all the equipment, i played water pump swap 3 times, one pump locked up, and cost us time and energy. In closing i want to say take it easy on Gas City, i know they work very hard on the track and if it was'nt perfect it was'nt because of effort. Yes this weekend our track was good, but it could go the other way very easily. I applaud our track crew for doing such a great job and working on it everyday and night. Tim Johnson, Mel Johnson, Dave Reese and Myself, along with other guys who help some also.
Thanks for reading, Dave Rudisell

dkdorkboy 4/20/09 7:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by riskybrisky5 (Post 97961)
Can I ask why it is a problem if the track gets a little slick. As a fan all I ask for is good side by side racing. For me personally it is not about the speed it is the closeness and wheel to wheel. When a track is able to produce guys coming from mid pack to the front. Friday at Bloomington it was slick with a cushion and a bottom. That is what I feel all we can ask for. Brady Short started 10Th and went on to win the race. Beauchamp started 20Th and came to 6Th. Make Bloomington tacky and Brady may have got to 6Th and Beauchamp 12Th. Most tracks not all tracks when they are tacky fast are one groove. Yes they provide speed and crashes but a lot of pole winners. Now I agree when the track gets so slick that it becomes follow the leader that is a freight train race as well. This is just my opinion as a fan when I am watching. Some of the best race's I have watched were slick with a bottom and top.

Very well spoken Mr. Briscoe.:thumb

Charles Nungester 4/20/09 7:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 97920)
Agree about Dick bringing the track back at GC, it was really racy for the feature. You arent at Bloomington enough to cast aspersions about the quality of the surface there Aero.

I can't speak for weekly conditions but the last two times I was there it was a dry slick. Something I only seen once prior on a D.O Fest DAY RACE about ten years ago. Kinda took away my desire to return, However I will

I seen three shows in 07 and two in 08 at Gas City. The first two in 07 were dust bowls so much so I didn't see Hammerhead flip down the front straight in front of me. The third after new clay was added was PERFECT as were the TWO 08 Races.

Im told the track was fine for feature. Done at 1130.
Chuck

Charles Nungester 4/20/09 8:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE (Post 97923)
How long and how many times did they work on the track at lawrenceburg?

0.5times. They wheel packed a little after hotlaps. Eldora raked the top after heats. Kokomo usually waters and rakes after heats. Haubstadt did 1.5hrs of prep durring the show the time I went and another 1.5 getting lineups correct.

Charles Nungester 4/20/09 8:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell (Post 97973)
Folks, Please be nice....Gas City, Bloomington, and all the rest work very hard on thier track. Its dirt and it can go either way all the time. The weather plays a HUGE roll in prepping a track, everything from humidity to clouds. Its a tricky call when to water, how much to water, when to grade, when to sheepsfoot....on and on.
Equipment is another valuable tool.....you gotta have water trucks, sheepsfoot, and tractors and much more. Keeping this equipment running and working is a chore sometimes. We at Lawrenceburg spent alot of money on new equipment this spring, we bought a 4,000 gallon water truck, a vibratory sheeps foot and built a cool drag. Last week was a hell week for all the equipment, i played water pump swap 3 times, one pump locked up, and cost us time and energy. In closing i want to say take it easy on Gas City, i know they work very hard on the track and if it was'nt perfect it was'nt because of effort. Yes this weekend our track was good, but it could go the other way very easily. I applaud our track crew for doing such a great job and working on it everyday and night. Tim Johnson, Mel Johnson, Dave Reese and Myself, along with other guys who help some also.
Thanks for reading, Dave Rudisell


I thought you guys were perfect. Now IM dissapointed :) :)

fishnman 4/20/09 8:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 97991)
I thought you guys were perfect. Now IM dissapointed :) :)

Rudy has said I am perfect: Perfectly screwed up in the head!:doh:

CTtoPA 4/20/09 8:32 PM

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Anyone who bitches about track prep should be given free reign to do as they please with the track the night of racing and then have to face the lynch mob when they screw it up. The track prep really begins days before race night and the weather absolutely plays a significant roll in how the track will be. I've worked at enough dirt tracks and seen enough others to know that sometimes you can only do so much with what you're given.

DICNJAN 4/20/09 8:59 PM

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IT WAS A LONG WINTER TO WAIT ON RACING
NOW AFTER 1 WEEKEND OF GOOD RACING
ALL WE HEAR IS ********
LETS ALL BE HAPPY THAT ITS GETTING WARM
ENJOY IT , SUMMER WILL BE OVER BEFORE SOON:applaud:

DangOHarp 4/20/09 9:08 PM

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Well yeah, Gas City kinda sucked during the heats, everyone playing huggy pole who had a transfer spot... but there were guys trying to run the top and making good of it after a couple of laps of falling back... namely Darland, Jones, and Clauson. Now THAT was cool to watch! :thumb

Charles Nungester 4/20/09 9:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DICNJAN (Post 98002)
IT WAS A LONG WINTER TO WAIT ON RACING
NOW AFTER 1 WEEKEND OF GOOD RACING
ALL WE HEAR IS ********
LETS ALL BE HAPPY THAT ITS GETTING WARM
ENJOY IT , SUMMER WILL BE OVER BEFORE SOON:applaud:

I hate it when its hot. Drys the tracks out too much! Creates Thunder Storms and BO.

Just kiddin, Nice points

#1Brad Kuhn Fan 4/20/09 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno Don (Post 97907)
Why do not the promoters of I69 Speedway go to Bloomington or Lawrencebug and learn how to prepare a track for a nights worth of racing.

Friday night was a joke. Two hours of track prep. and maybe an hour or so of racing is not my idea of a fun evening.

Gas City will get one more chance when I go there for Midget Week, if they screw up then, I am done with them. There are too many other tracks that get track prep. right to put up with I69 Dust City.

:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

D.N.3 4/20/09 10:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 97990)
0.5times. They wheel packed a little after hotlaps. Eldora raked the top after heats. Kokomo usually waters and rakes after heats. Haubstadt did 1.5hrs of prep durring the show the time I went and another 1.5 getting lineups correct.

Wow, you must really keep track of that stuff. Wish I had that much time on my hands to do that.:confused:

Charles Nungester 4/20/09 11:22 PM

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Yeah it gave me and my father some time to chat and built anxiety for qualifying.

Sorry your jealous. I had a great time at all of them

Z-man 4/20/09 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 98030)
Yeah it gave me and my father some time to chat and built anxiety for qualifying.

Sorry your jealous. I had a great time at all of them

And I thought you payed so much attention because you really love the tractors:doh:

dirtnonwingfan 4/20/09 11:48 PM

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From my Gas City notes:
Heat #1 - Clausen started 8th, finished 2nd; Sweet started 4th, had to go to pits, came back and started on back, finished 3rd.
Heat #2 - Stanbrough started 5th and won, Westfall started 6th & finished 3rd.
Heat #3 - Darland started 6th and won.
Heat #4 - Levi started 6th & finished 2nd.

'nough said.

Frank Daigh

hoosier sprinter 4/20/09 11:52 PM

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Friday was very dissapointing...UNTIL they re-worked the track before the B main. The semi and the feature were Excellent! I left wanting more so I'll be back for Sprintweek.

Sprint63122 4/21/09 12:04 AM

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I thought it was great that gas city took the time to make the track better for the feature the work payed off it was a great race and saturday at lawrenceburg it was great all night long.Now has for the posts about haubstadt track prep they can completely redo the track in twenty minutes if it took them has long has the other poster said the 1.5 it had to be the night it rained in early afternoon down there and they was still able to work on the track to get it ready for the show the same night as most tracks would have just called the race and not even tried to get the show in.Has for everyone else already moaning about last weekend to start the season get a freaking life nothing is perfect and I for one once again say thanks to the tracks and there workers for giving us a place to watch what we enjoy and smell the alky in the air it is now racing season buckle up and enjoy lets go wfo.

Charles Nungester 4/21/09 2:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 98032)
And I thought you payed so much attention because you really love the tractors:doh:

Nah The clowns on them. They're funny ya know. Didn't see you there, Hoped to see you.
Chuck

David Lynch 4/21/09 2:39 AM

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I have been to gas city 4 times & I am miserable in the cramped grand stands & has always been to dusty to enjoy myself. I will go to other tracks or just stay home.

sceckert 4/21/09 2:40 AM

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That the Gas City track personnel acknowledged the conditions and got it right is the ultimate moral of the story. Too many other tracks give what they give you, and that's IT. It is a mark against them that they didn't seem to have put much effort into the pre-race prep, but it is in their favor that not only did they try to correct things, they DID correct things. It was a long wait, but for those able to remain it was worthy action. It would stand to reason that the track personnel will focus more preparation on the days leading up to the events for the upcoming races this season. If that be the case, one long, drawn-out intermission on the debut weekend will recede from memory.

Russ 4/21/09 3:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lynch (Post 98046)
I have been to gas city 4 times & I am miserable in the cramped grand stands & has always been to dusty to enjoy myself. I will go to other tracks or just stay home.

you won't be missed

ossuks 4/21/09 8:09 AM

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Will they miss me and the 2 I bring?

bayless 4/21/09 6:22 PM

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........when we were on the front stretch after the race getting our photos taken it seemed fine.:cheers


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