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Anybody know what kind he was running at Gas City? Didn't look to be the normal DRC
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Sheet said J&J

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Yeah that's what I thought it said who makes it?
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J & J has only been in business since the mid 70's!
Granted they have never been big here in the area but there have been some pretty successful teams running a J & J chassis.

Whatever happen to Nance, they still in business?
Another not so well known in these parts but still a good chassis manufacturer.

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Thanks don't recall ever seeing one around here that's why I was curious
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Werent they popular before the twister age and DRC's? Maybe I remember the name from wings...dont throw anything.

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I ran one in the Mid and late 90s. But lets face it. The car that they got from J&J is copy of there DRC.

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Ty, J&J is a popular car with the wing racers. Back in the 90's Joe Miller and his dad Phil ran them at Lawrenceburg and Bloomington with the wing. John Memmer's wing car is a J&J. I will have a pic of the new car to show on Sunday.... I can put up the DRC from last year and the new J&J. Maybe it's me but I can see a difference chassis-wise behind the driver. The cage looks a bit different....

I must say I am thrilled to see the car back to white, red and black again. Just like the 30 win year. I would be willing to bet they are not thrilled with results from last night.... but considering the notes they had were DRC notes I think they did just fine.

To Team Foxco.... the car looks awesome! I have no doubt they will be in victory lane very soon!

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So why did they switch? DRC seemed to work just fine to me. Not looking for dirt on either party, just wondering if there were any performance gains or anything else performance wise to the reasoning.

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LaVern Nance passed away several years ago. The company is no longer in business to the best of my knowledge.

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Billy,

Not taking anything away from what you said there, depending on who you talk to, the consensus with numerous teams is other than aesthetics the cars are basically "copies". There is no consensus as to what the original is..... some argue they are Maxim copies.... some argue DRC copies..... some said Stealth copies with refinements, a few have even said they are copies of J&J from back in the 90's. Who knows.... I know I don't.

Again, no slight to any manufacturer.

Since you work for DRC I am sure you can point out the differences. I for one would love to know differences between the makes. As a fan they look very similar but just minor aesthetic differences.

If this is something proprietary to DRC as far as differences, you can tell me at the track or in PM. I genuinely would like to know. If it is proprietary it will not go outside of the discussion.

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Every down tube car out there now is still a copy of a 87 Gambler. Just like Clayton did when he switched chassis told the builder about the Motor heights, tube height, Radius Rods, ECT.. Cages are different bodies are different but the guts of the car are the same.

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Thanks unclebuck, I thought that was the case but didn't remember for certain.
Ol' Laverne had a good run with Sammy Swindle back in the late 70's or early 80's!


That is a fact!
The only thing important (other than safety) are the pick up points and overall suspension geometry.
They can look pretty funky or an absolute copy doesn't really matter, if the math is done right.
Although I do remember an outlaw owner/builder, that shall remain nameless, that built a chassis so flimsy he junked it because he said, "it don't matter what bar I put in it there is so much chassis flex, damn thing will never work, cut it up boys" it looked like a standard chassis, it was just real thin wall tubing and very little cross bracing. Never know if you don't try!

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Reminds me of the qualifying motors they used to blow up in the wings. Thin walled car is just silly and way to dangerous. But I am not surprised.

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O rly?:wink

Shain Matthews is the only one I remember running a J&J without the lid in Ind. recently but pretty sure it's a winged car.

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DRC Chassis has been voted the "Nonwing Builder of the Year" by the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame for the last three years. Anymore questions?

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J&J is a good chassis and I would buy one any day. Jack has been in business forever and doesn't cut corners on safety. Donny Shatz has ran one for years and Gary Hayhurst ran one with & without a wing and always won.

Top quality chassis.:thumb

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We bought a J&J from the Fox Brothers 7 or 8 years ago . It was one Brad was driving with pretty good success.

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Someone posted a link to the U-tube video of Terry Pletch's win at Terre Haute recently. In the feature line up they showed that about half the field were running J&J. When John Godfrey got Stealth rolling pretty good, a lot of guys in the Indiana area switched to Stealth. It was pretty much the same as the J&J and Stealth was closer to this area. Stealth reigned supreme until JJ and the Twister revolution. When Stanbrough started dominating in the DRC everyone just had to go back to 4-bar cars. Right now it seems that Maxim has the most cars out there. Builders will play with tube heights/lengths/offset, and motor height/driveline length but always come back to the same basic design.

It's the same as it's always been... whatever is winning is what the masses want. The teams that have it together can win with almost anything.

Thanks for commenting about the look of the car. I had fun doing the wrap and knew everyone would be glad Steve and Brad chose to go back to it.

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For those of us who haven't been to the track yet :crying:...anyone have a picture of Stanbrough/Fox's new car?

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Drew,
Jim Fisher has two photos of the Foxco 55 @ Gas City

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/79347...14933018_mqbky
http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/79347...14933001_icuq9

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J&J chassis of McKenzie Tennessee makes great race cars. They are extremely popular on the winged circuits, Donny Schatz has ran them for years. I had many through the years, matter of fact my favorite cars were all J&J's. They were very common in nowing racing also before the prominence of the coil front sway bar cars so popular now, we'd run the car nonwing on Friday and saturdays and put a wing on it for Haubstadt on Sundays. I suspect Brad and Steve went that direction to get a little edge up on the competition by having something a little different than everyone else and not many others out their to know what they are doing maybe a little different. It's to easy to know what everyone else is doing in cenral Indiana racing.

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Thanks, Billy. I knew you would know the answer to my question!