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bluegrassprintfan 4/15/09 4:16 AM

Qualifying at the burg
 
Hey guys. I've been reading this website for a long time and really enjoy it so I finally joined. At any rate, I've been going to the burg for a few years now, its where I got my first taste of sprint cars and dirt racing all together and I've been hooked ever since. I was just thinking with the current configuration if it would speed up qualifying if the cars were pushed off from the infield rather than turn four. Just a thought.

Mike

Rpracing1 4/15/09 9:02 AM

Re: Qualifying at the burg
 

Originally Posted by bluegrassprintfan:
Hey guys. I've been reading this website for a long time and really enjoy it so I finally joined. At any rate, I've been going to the burg for a few years now, its where I got my first taste of sprint cars and dirt racing all together and I've been hooked ever since. I was just thinking with the current configuration if it would speed up qualifying if the cars were pushed off from the infield rather than turn four. Just a thought.

Mike

Is the qualifying that time consuming? Thirty seconds a car max?? I enjoy watching qualifying, as this is where your drivers are ballz out, hold your breath for a minute laps. A big part of my racing evening. JMO.

Charles Nungester 4/15/09 9:07 AM

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Whats the difference if the racing starts at the advertised time anyway?

I gotta say one thing, I hate the group qualifying. Would rather see the individual or none at all.

It was cool seeing BC go out first saturday night setting quick time. Watching 32 other cars try to beat it and then DD qualifying DEAD LAST and setting QUICK TIME! You really can't follow more than one or two cars in the Group thing. Also other cars can interfear with faster ones.

Chuck

BuckeyeBullet 4/15/09 10:43 AM

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I agree that group qualifying is a disaster :thumbsdown:.
Single car is the way to go, it's fast paced, all eyes on him, balls to the walls:Steer
IMHO qualifying should be solely about the ability of one driver, he should not have to worry about another car messing up a clean lap:checkered:

Rpracing1 4/15/09 11:14 AM

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Group qualifying is ignorant.

goodnight39 4/15/09 11:56 AM

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well guys i think what he is trying to say is the cars have a hard time making the exit out of the track. right hand turns a sprint cars don't see eye to eye. as a driver i know i would like to see them have us pull into the infield after we make our run......but no biggie i have done it before i will do it again:D

Seadog 4/15/09 12:14 PM

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First, welcome aboard bluegrasssprintfan to IOW.

Second, my reading comprehension is not always so good, but I think he is asking about if pushing the sprinters off from the infield would be a better idea. I would think that you would have to bring all the cars into the infield first, right? The qual one at a time and exit at the end of the qual run. It might work.

Third, how did this simple thread turn into a this sucks or that sucks thread?:confused::rolleyes:

Dyno Don 4/15/09 2:38 PM

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I guess I must be in the minority on this subject.

I do enjoy single car qualifing, but group qualifing helps safe the track.

Hot laps and then qualify uses up a lot of track, if doing away with single car qualifing saves the track and makes for better racing, I am for it.

This is not the good old days, when it got dark at 8:00PM and you could use calcium chloride. Save the track and have better racing.

Fisher79 4/15/09 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I gotta say one thing, I hate the group qualifying. Would rather see the individual or none at all. You really can't follow more than one or two cars in the Group thing. Also other cars can interfear with faster ones.
Chuck

Originally Posted by BuckeyeBullet:
I agree that group qualifying is a disaster :thumbsdown:.
Single car is the way to go, it's fast paced, all eyes on him, balls to the walls:Steer
IMHO qualifying should be solely about the ability of one driver, he should not have to worry about another car messing up a clean lap:checkered:

Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
Group qualifying is ignorant.

Ignorant? Really??

When it's done correctly group qualifying works perfectly fine, saves the race track and speeds up the program. I like single-car qualifying too and was against the group method being used at my home track to begin with. But after seeing group quals over a period of time and seeing it perfected (cars of the same caliber grouped together, etc.), I started to like it. And its purpose was really hammered home after seeing last year's Sprintweek show at Kokomo: 55 cars, two laps apiece took forever and the top was close to worn out at the end of it. Coming back the next week for a local show, you really got a good idea of how efficient the group format is.

Wingman 4/15/09 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fisher79:
Ignorant? Really??

When it's done correctly group qualifying works perfectly fine, saves the race track and speeds up the program. I like single-car qualifying too and was against the group method being used at my home track to begin with. But after seeing group quals over a period of time and seeing it perfected (cars of the same caliber grouped together, etc.), I started to like it. And its purpose was really hammered home after seeing last year's Sprintweek show at Kokomo: 55 cars, two laps apiece took forever and the top was close to worn out at the end of it. Coming back the next week for a local show, you really got a good idea of how efficient the group format is.

I Agree 100%. I like the group qualifying better myself as well. Personally I like F1 qualifying format better than anybodies. My favorite portion of the racing programs are hot laps and of course the racing. Single car qualifying is when I make a trip to the concession stand. Pretty boring! To each his own..I guess.

Rpracing1 4/15/09 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fisher79:
Ignorant? Really??
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Yes.

smith19 4/15/09 7:30 PM

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Years ago they used to do that at kc raceway.

Dave Rudisell 4/15/09 10:17 PM

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I understand you question about pushing off from the infield, the problem with that is getting all the cars in the infield, and we really don't have a big enough area to fit them in out of harms way. As far as making the exit at our track, all you need to do is swing low on the backstretch to make the turn. If you hug the wall or stay high it tough for sprints. I like qualifying for special show only, pill draws and heat races is soooooooo much more exciting. I love to watch the guys move from back to front it 1 lap.
Take care, Dave

Z-man 4/15/09 10:31 PM

Re: Qualifying at the burg
 
North Vernon did this a few years ago, they pushed a car into the infield and while the qualifying car was on its last qualifying lap they pushed the next car off from a crossover from turn three to one to get started. I don't think the Burg is set up like this. Suppose they could drop a car into the infield after car started first lap and push this car off after previous car completed its first lap. Not sure how much time this would save, might be more interesting to see this orchestrated. As for group qualifying versus single car qualifying. One car on the track balls out sounds pretty impressive to me. One car, every movement of the loud pedal amplified to the fans in the stands(or the tailgaters in the parking lot) When they lift, you know it, and if they screw up nooone else gets caught up in it.

micro94 4/15/09 10:47 PM

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I can see both sides of the coin.From one aspect,yes its micros but at Logansport they send a car out and when that car gets in between 1 and 2 the next car takes off so you have basically 2 qualifying at a time.One on the front stretch and 1 on the back stretch.At the same time when I go to a sprint car show I love watching qualifying 1 car at a time because you can really listen to who is on the throttle and who is ***** footin with it.Im good with it either way.As far as wearing the track out doing one at a time these are dirt tracks.You learn to race on a heavy,slick or whatever track.That is just a spectator question which I realise the person that asked is I think a spectator.And micros also have starters versus none for a sprint car.You half to get the push trucks out of harms way safely in order to do it 2 at a time like I said before.I guess after I think about it I have no clue why I replied or put my 2 centss into this.Sorry.


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