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I would like to thank Twin Cities Racway for the April 4th sprint race and paying extra money for sprint cars and Don Short of Indiana Stone Works!!!

However...I have a few concerns:

I don't understand the reason to have 5 classes of cars...nor will I ever...when you have a special race (sprint cars) with a larger purse you only need 2-3 total classes.

I think someone said Sprint cars would run first ALL night and it didn't happen...in fact the mini sprint feature had 23 laps of caution mixed in with their 20 lap feature that they ran FIRST...

The most important concern: Track prep or the lack of...I arrived at 2PM on Saturday and was surprised to see the track had NOT been touched for the races on Saturday...you could see the erosion down the track from the latest rain...Track prep is that track prep not running around the track with a sheeps foot a few laps only a few hours for the racing starts...You get out of track prep what you put into it....example Bloomington, and Tri-State Speedways...I know
everyone can't have all the nice John Deere equipment that Tom Helfrich has, and Mike Miles, at Bloomington Speedway does not either...He puts time into track prep and gives the racers and fans a good track week after week!...I understand the sun was out yesterday and it was warmer...I understand some work was done on the rough track conditions from the week prior, but I think a dry slick, dusty track in early April is very preventable!!


SPD 37

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I can see your points, But everybody Including Anderson cancelled for this weekend and TCRP ran. If he knew how much rain or how little Im sure he would have watered accordingly.

Just glad they got a race in.
Chuck, Also wondering if the double features didn't have something to do with the running order. Im possitive it had to do with the running later as they run em off. Doesn't bother me the extra classes if they run em off.

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I think the double features caused it to run late. But you can always get up and leave if its past your bed time.:D Just kidding i left early but got to see alot of good races before i left. The track was a little dusty early but it was better after the sun went down and some rubber was laid down.It was better than the week before. In all I thought it was pretty good,COLD though.

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Double features...It was dry slick in hot laps before the rained out features....
Also I think it rained Thursday PM and Friday AM...so why begin track prep Saturday at 3PM??? Just doesn't make sense! Should we just be happy with "Well, at least they got the race in" attitude? After all, we pay good money, gas money, etc...we all love sprint car racing, and after all....without us, the dedicated sprint car fans, why shouldn't we expect more??

SPD 37

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Its possible they coudln't move any equiptment friday it was so soft. See the last weeks thread about having to pull haulers out.

Of course we all want the best possible track. Thats why I said I see your points. However He could have called it thrusday like a lot of others did. That my opinion. The worst night of racing is better than staying home to me. I had to do both due to working till 6pm then having to work today at 5am.
The tracks 2hrs away :(

Chuck

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i agree with you on the support classes i think 3 classes total is all you need when you have a big event like that..brownstown done the same thing thing when they had the ice breaker lucas oil late models,superstocks,pure stocks and modifieds(god i hate those things) but i have learned when i go to twin cities thats its gonna be dry slick and dusty,big holes going into 1 and another one going into 3...and the double features didnt help anything usually they do run sprints all night first and i am always home in seymour by 10:45 -11:00

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The change in rotation with starting Mini Sprints first was to ensure that the SPRINT consi cars had an ample amount of time to prepare their cars for the feature.

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AND to give ample time for the people in the first feature to get ready for their heat!

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Ok, maybe I wasn't very clear....I should have said they should have ran the sprint feature (2nd one first) first before mini-sprints...at that point in the program there was plenty of time to get ready...after the Sprint B mains there was a street stock B main and only 4 sprint cars had to get ready after the two sprint B mains...sorry I wasn't very clear...

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Track was terrible. There was obviously very little effort put into it. That's about all you can say...it's the same thing I saw the one time I went there last year. What gives?

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Possibly thought of the fact that he knew the rains were coming and left the track hard so the track wouldn't turn to crap? If he would have tore it up and left it open and it would have been a roughed up mess, then everybody would complain about that.

I wasn't there so I don't know, but most dirt tracks that I've been to that have been threatened by rain, or rained on earlier, are sealed over so they don't get destroyed by rain.

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I was there and yes it was dusty but the racin was great. Bland from the back in the first feature was off the hook. And to Broc Burton, was sorry to read what happened to you. Hope everything turns out good and your back in the car soon.

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you are quite welcome.....short racing doing what we can to help keep the sport of racing alive.....

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Chuck!!....ain't havin ta work for a livin, hell!!....especially when it gets in the way of yer "RACIN"!!......Finally Ret. n' lovin it!!...Racin'...that is!!........
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Brucer'

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Kirk, if you went to this place to see the track then maybe you went for the wrong reason, you should have gone because of the excellent bathroom facilities. How was the racing, in your opinion?

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I didn't think that it rained on Friday. If not the whole day, then most of it. Plus, I didn't think the threat of rain was coming until Sunday?

Just curious...

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They had almost 2 inches of rain through out the week so Im sure they left it sealed to keep it from being rough....

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The day of the race, no rain in the forcast until Sunday....track prep started at 3PM...that's not good....you can't run the sheeps foot around 3-4 laps and call it track prep....no one cut the track and the amount of water put on the track was to little to help...it's has nothing to do the rain from Thurs PM or Friday AM...You have to spend the time to prep the track!! and not just a few hours the day of the race.....

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A certain track in Southern Indiana starts prepping its track for its next race right after the latest event has finished and continues that track prep all the the way up until the next race has begun.

Yes we are spoiled down here and we like it. :applaud:

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Dont know who it was we followed through bedford but whoever it was nice big enclosed trailer with a dealer plate ending in 8308 or 3803...thought it was dont short but couldnt tell when we turned but whoever it was the very left rear trailer tire was locking up and smoking when the brakes were applied ...

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I'm surprized nobody mentioned the Dq's. I saw John Memmer out on the track for the B main and he wasn't doing anything different than most of the other drivers and they Dq'd him from the race. If they thought he was running too fast under the yellow, why not put him to the back?

Missing the scales definately affected a few drivers also.

curt

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5-6 cars in each super stock in heat race...taking soooo long to get lined up..once a car spun then got restarted they would line the cars up...why didnt they do it when they were tryin to restart the spun car ...i think we needed more people to attend a car that spun....i counted 14 people at 1 car ....

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THANKS DON SHORT FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND TO ALL THE RACER AND FANS FOR A GREAT WEEKEND. THE TRACK WAS DRY AND SLICK WE DID OUR BEST TO KEEP IT COMING APART. WE DID PRACTICE WENSDAY AND THE RACE TRACK WAS COMPLETLY CUT ON THUR. SO SAYING THE TRACK WAS NOT TOUCHED IS ALONG WAY FROM THE TRUTH. WE DID EVEN CUT SOME DIRT OFF OF TURN 3 SAT. WE DID GET 2 IN OF RAIN THUR. INTO FRI. MORNING. THE SPRINT DRIVERS DID ASK TO RUN SECOND TO HAVE TIME AFTER MAKE UP FEATURES. AS FAR AS OTHER CLASSES I WILL NOT RUN THAT MANY NEXT YEAR, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD CAR COUNT. BUT THE FANS DO SUPPORT SPRINTS AND I AM GLAD OF THAT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THE RACE A EVERY YEAR THING. NEXT YEAR WE WILL RUN LESS CLASSES,MORE CONCESSION FOOD,WETTER TRACK,LESS DUST, AND MORE FUN!!!!!. THANKS TO ALL MASON FLEETWOOD:thumb

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This was our 1st time visiting Twin Cities and we had a very enjoyable time. I agree the track prep could have possibly been better, but thats not up to me anyway. Getting to see 2 sprint features was great, Bland from the rear for the win was exciting to witness. The sprint $3000 feature was a good one and seeing Clauson and Mezzerall battling for the win on the last lap going into turn 3 was priceless. Darland from 18th to 2nd and Slammin' Scotty Hampton in 5th was awesome too! Congrats to Faas for the win.

Thanks to Don Short for sponsoring the big money show and thank you Twin Cities for a night of sprint car racing when there wasn't any happening anywhere else in Indiana. I truly felt like the people working/running the place have a passion for racing not just the money. Please keep the passion and the money will come anyway.

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i know some of you r complaining about track conditions but i for one would much rather have the track the way it was as to muddy sloppy conditions where there is no passing in heats because of one lane racing.... ther was passing all night both low and high...there was a little dust but the racing was visible all night... in our opinion kudos to the track prep... :checkered: usually the wetter the track at north vernon the rougher it is...:Steer

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I agree with you Curt. Thought it was ridiculous to dq him when everyone else on the track, at some point, was gassing it up under the yellow! They should've just put him at the back of the field and went on w/the the race.

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I have seen hundreds of sprint car races in my lifetime and have never seen anybody DQ'd for hot lapping as noted in the Quoted post. I have seen many a driver warned with the red and chastized by officials, but never anybody disqualified. I was not there, but Memmer must have been out of control and totally disregarding any actions of track officials for this to happen.

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just depended who you was i guess

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I did see alot of guys gassing it up also, not sure what car it was but there was one car that shot past the pace truck after all the cars had been pushed off. If that was him then i can understand the DQ. Like I said, I dont know alot of the drivers and what car they drive so it might not even have been him.

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[QUOTE=twincitiespr;95464]THANKS DON SHORT FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND TO ALL THE RACER AND FANS FOR A GREAT WEEKEND. THE TRACK WAS DRY AND SLICK WE DID OUR BEST TO KEEP IT COMING APART. WE DID PRACTICE WENSDAY AND THE RACE TRACK WAS COMPLETLY CUT ON THUR. SO SAYING THE TRACK WAS NOT TOUCHED IS ALONG WAY FROM THE TRUTH. WE DID EVEN CUT SOME DIRT OFF OF TURN 3 SAT. WE DID GET 2 IN OF RAIN THUR. INTO FRI. MORNING. THE SPRINT DRIVERS DID ASK TO RUN SECOND TO HAVE TIME AFTER MAKE UP FEATURES. AS FAR AS OTHER CLASSES I WILL NOT RUN THAT MANY NEXT YEAR, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD CAR COUNT. BUT THE FANS DO SUPPORT SPRINTS AND I AM GLAD OF THAT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THE RACE A EVERY YEAR THING. NEXT YEAR WE WILL RUN LESS CLASSES,MORE CONCESSION FOOD,WETTER TRACK,LESS DUST, AND MORE FUN!!!!!. THANKS TO ALL MASON FLEETWOOD:thumb[/QUO
i thought saturday was a hell of a show... one of the best races i have seen in awhile...my only *****(as i stated in another post) is they need to get another announcer he knows nothing about sprint cars or their drivers...barley knows they guys who run there every week...maybe chris nunn can fill in next time they are not running at brownstown...great job mason and crew and see you saturday with the hornet...

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We like it alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! True we are spoiled with track prep with tracks Like Tri-State & B-town . but is it too much to ask for a decent announcer or pa system???!!!!.. i can't say that it was the worst announcer I've ever heard ,because I didn't hear anyone at all!!!!!!!!! I went back to the pits after heat races to find out who was driving what car ... then, I still don't know why Darland & Balou were in the B???? However decent racing and hopefully my voice will recover for the opening weekend at Bloomington,

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Given the situation with the weather, and the make up features I think mason and staff did a great job...Didnt everyone race on the same track...? -Andy

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I came up to races from Southaven,Ms. HAD GREAT TIME.RACES WERE AWESOME.KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MASON.HOPE SEE THIS RACE AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

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I don't have a lot of tolerance for slick dusty tracks but, I've seen much worse and the racing was excellent. I have no complaints (for once!!:O:). I also want to thank the Short family for their contribtution to the sport.

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Also Kenny Schrader thought the racing was good, at least thats what he said.

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I will have to agree with SPD 37 i was there. the team i work for wasnt there and i'm glad we werent. i too drove all the way from up north to watch a great race and turns out the track was crap. and the wonder why USAC quit showing up for sprintweek. The support clases needs to be kept to a min of at least 3 when the sprints are in town look at bloomington or gas city those kinda tracks 3 clases weekly and when its a big sprint show they run just 1 other class. well SPD 37 hopefully we'll get to see you up north like gas city the 17th

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Darland and Ballou were in the b due to not having the correct right rear tire on and they blew by the check point

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Actually it was stated in the drivers meeting that the top 3 or 4 finishers had to cross the scales for a tire check, Darland, Ballou and Westerfield didn't and I believe this was why they were sent to the Bmain.

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Thanks wildthing1h, The plan is to be at Gas City the 17th...We can all learn from our mistakes and become better the next time!

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Apparently you werent at bloomington last year when darland was told to go to the tail then stopped on the track to ask why and they sent him packing, no offense to him or anyone involved, they did however tell us at the drivers meeting that they wanted us in line after one full pace lap, and anyone out of line "hot lapping" would be DQ'd.

I had no complaints about the track conditions... my eye however had other thoughts lol, I thought for as much rain and such, the track was really smooth, and I completely agree with Don Short, whats the point in going to a race and watching a hot lap session all night, sure its cool to watch us go fast, but I would rather be able to pass instead of driving around wide open