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:kookooA 410 SPRINT CAR IS LIKE PUTTING A WET NOODLE IN A WILDCAT ASS ON A 1/5 MILE FLAT TRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!:headbang!

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That is no doubt dangerous. Duke I know you drove a sprint car, but did you try the wildcat thing?...I know you have had a few exploits off the record.

I am looking for video of the August 2000 Auto Value Super Sprint race at the Speedrome. Anyone know who may have it? D.O. does not, and neither does Jeff Converse.

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I myself dont see this working.As for superdukes impression of it I dont think I can top that one.But midgets half to beat and bang to pass around there,a sprint car just isnt going to work in my opinion but its MY opinion so it doesnt count to any of you.My thought of this though is in order to run a quick lap around the speedrome you half to run the bottom.If and I say if,the leader screws up and spins or something of that nature there is going to be 10 cars parked on his rear bumper and 15th place will win with a half lap to go.By the way.He will be the one a half lap behind so he can get by it all.

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Originally Posted by micro94:
I myself dont see this working.As for superdukes impression of it I dont think I can top that one.But midgets half to beat and bang to pass around there,a sprint car just isnt going to work in my opinion but its MY opinion so it doesnt count to any of you.My thought of this though is in order to run a quick lap around the speedrome you half to run the bottom.If and I say if,the leader screws up and spins or something of that nature there is going to be 10 cars parked on his rear bumper and 15th place will win with a half lap to go.By the way.He will be the one a half lap behind so he can get by it all.

THANK YOU!:applaud:

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
That is no doubt dangerous. Duke I know you drove a sprint car, but did you try the wildcat thing?...I know you have had a few exploits off the record.

I am looking for video of the August 2000 Auto Value Super Sprint race at the Speedrome. Anyone know who may have it? D.O. does not, and neither does Jeff Converse.

GOOD LUCK:headbang

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Originally Posted by tony barhorst:
that is no doubt dangerous. Duke i know you drove a sprint car, but did you try the wildcat thing?...i know you have had a few exploits off the record.

I am looking for video of the august 2000 auto value super sprint race at the speedrome. Anyone know who may have it? D.o. Does not, and neither does jeff converse.

rotflmao about the wildcat and the noodle.

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Just for the record..read our press release quotes here:

The pileup that was described earlier in this thread did not happen when AVSS was there. I think there were two yellows. Here are quotes dealing with questions about running at the Speedrome:

Remember, July 19 has HOSS AND the Midgets:

The Hoosier Outlaw Sprint Series, formed in 2001, competes at such high-speed tracks as Salem Speedway and Winchester Speedway. Its cars use 410 cubic-inch engines that produce 800-850 horsepower. Geoff Kaiser, who competes regularly in the Rumble Series midgets, is the defending series champion.

"Our guys are really excited about it," said Tony Swanson, who owns the HOSS series with his wife, Deb. "When you get to a venue that small, there'll be a lot of passing and it should keep the field fairly even. It should be a really exciting event. We've never been on a track that small, and we've never run a 100-lapper.

"If we get 20 cars, like we usually do, it'll be a gunshoot to see who comes out of it."

Veteran driver Jeff Bloom, who finished third in the 2000 race, compared wrestling a winged sprint car around the Speedrome to driving a NASCAR stock car at Bristol or Martinsville.

"It's tenuous," Bloom said of the driving style required. "You're not on the throttle that much. These are 410 sprint cars, but it's really kind of simple, because you're not going 160 or 170 (mph) like we're used to. It takes patience -- lots and lots of patience. If anybody watched Bristol or watches Martinsville, it'll be the same thing. Patience."
Yet the 2000 race -- won by Gary Fedewa, who started eighth -- provided plenty of passing.

"You gotta remember, we have wings on, and we can adjust them," Bloom said. "If the track changes, guys can adjust (the handling). You'll see cars running up through the field."

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
Just for the record..read our press release quotes here:

The pileup that was described earlier in this thread did not happen when AVSS was there. I think there were two yellows. Here are quotes dealing with questions about running at the Speedrome:

Remember, July 19 has HOSS AND the Midgets:

The Hoosier Outlaw Sprint Series, formed in 2001, competes at such high-speed tracks as Salem Speedway and Winchester Speedway. Its cars use 410 cubic-inch engines that produce 800-850 horsepower. Geoff Kaiser, who competes regularly in the Rumble Series midgets, is the defending series champion.

"Our guys are really excited about it," said Tony Swanson, who owns the HOSS series with his wife, Deb. "When you get to a venue that small, there'll be a lot of passing and it should keep the field fairly even. It should be a really exciting event. We've never been on a track that small, and we've never run a 100-lapper.

"If we get 20 cars, like we usually do, it'll be a gunshoot to see who comes out of it."

Veteran driver Jeff Bloom, who finished third in the 2000 race, compared wrestling a winged sprint car around the Speedrome to driving a NASCAR stock car at Bristol or Martinsville.

"It's tenuous," Bloom said of the driving style required. "You're not on the throttle that much. These are 410 sprint cars, but it's really kind of simple, because you're not going 160 or 170 (mph) like we're used to. It takes patience -- lots and lots of patience. If anybody watched Bristol or watches Martinsville, it'll be the same thing. Patience."
Yet the 2000 race -- won by Gary Fedewa, who started eighth -- provided plenty of passing.

"You gotta remember, we have wings on, and we can adjust them," Bloom said. "If the track changes, guys can adjust (the handling). You'll see cars running up through the field."

I'll take Jeff Bloom's opinion on this as the one to take to the bank. He's "been there and done that" for more years than just about anyone still doing it today. Almost 40 years IIRC. SUPERDUKE may have a point also, but how many times has SUPERDUKE driven a winged pavement sprint car?

I think it could be a great show.

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It will work. It worked before. It may not be the most interesting race; then again it may be the most interesting race there, but the drivers will figure it out.

I forget the name of the division they used to run at the Speedrome, but they had an unlimited stock car division that was extremely fast that they ran all of the time in the early 80's. With the wings the track will widen out in the corners once they get it blown off.

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
Just for the record..read our press release quotes here:

The pileup that was described earlier in this thread did not happen when AVSS was there. I think there were two yellows. Here are quotes dealing with questions about running at the Speedrome:

Remember, July 19 has HOSS AND the Midgets:

The Hoosier Outlaw Sprint Series, formed in 2001, competes at such high-speed tracks as Salem Speedway and Winchester Speedway. Its cars use 410 cubic-inch engines that produce 800-850 horsepower. Geoff Kaiser, who competes regularly in the Rumble Series midgets, is the defending series champion.

"Our guys are really excited about it," said Tony Swanson, who owns the HOSS series with his wife, Deb. "When you get to a venue that small, there'll be a lot of passing and it should keep the field fairly even. It should be a really exciting event. We've never been on a track that small, and we've never run a 100-lapper.

"If we get 20 cars, like we usually do, it'll be a gunshoot to see who comes out of it."

Veteran driver Jeff Bloom, who finished third in the 2000 race, compared wrestling a winged sprint car around the Speedrome to driving a NASCAR stock car at Bristol or Martinsville.

"It's tenuous," Bloom said of the driving style required. "You're not on the throttle that much. These are 410 sprint cars, but it's really kind of simple, because you're not going 160 or 170 (mph) like we're used to. It takes patience -- lots and lots of patience. If anybody watched Bristol or watches Martinsville, it'll be the same thing. Patience."
Yet the 2000 race -- won by Gary Fedewa, who started eighth -- provided plenty of passing.

"You gotta remember, we have wings on, and we can adjust them," Bloom said. "If the track changes, guys can adjust (the handling). You'll see cars running up through the field."

160 170 (MPH) *** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?????????? WHERE DO YOU GO THAT FAST????????????? IS THIS A WWF PROMOTION?:rolling I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE GOLD CROWN CARS RUN A 100 LAP RACE THRU THE X! THAT WOULD SELL TICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:checkered:

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Originally Posted by Seadog:
I'll take Jeff Bloom's opinion on this as the one to take to the bank. He's "been there and done that" for more years than just about anyone still doing it today. Almost 40 years IIRC. SUPERDUKE may have a point also, but how many times has SUPERDUKE driven a winged pavement sprint car?

I think it could be a great show.

ONCE AT NEW BREMAN! WHATS YOUR POINT??????????:kookoo

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I remember thinking that the 2003 sprint show inside the RCA Dome wouldn't work, but I was somewhat pleasantly surprised by it. There was a little bit of action, some passing, some cars torn up. It was still better than watching a winged dirt race anywhere except a bullring. I think the Speedrome might be a tad bigger than the setup inside the Dome was?

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Originally Posted by Fisher79:
I remember thinking that the 2003 sprint show inside the RCA Dome wouldn't work, but I was somewhat pleasantly surprised by it. There was a little bit of action, some passing, some cars torn up. It was still better than watching a winged dirt race anywhere except a bullring. I think the Speedrome might be a tad bigger than the setup inside the Dome was?

I think that is correct. IIRC, the 'Drome is 1/5 and the 'Dome was a 1/6. I believe Macon is 1/5. Do they ever run sprints there?

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Duke...Bloom is talking about the HOSS Series at Salem and Winchester in regard to the 160 and 170 mph. Anyone who knows Jeff Bloom..knows he will tell you what he thinks.

The Speedrome track is larger than the RCA Dome track was.

I saw the AVSS race at the Speedrome firsthand..and I saw a clean race with passing that was interesting.

Jack Calabrase was our race director at the RCA Dome...and he was the AVSS director at the Speedrome in 2000. My decision to run HOSS at the Speedrome is based on that influence. Both events worked.

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they ran woo inside the florida suncoast dome on a dirt track and it was a 1/5
it was interesting, i even saw duke there

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Originally Posted by interpreter66:
they ran woo inside the florida suncoast dome on a dirt track and it was a 1/5
it was interesting, i even saw duke there

Do you mean the race was interesting or SUPERDUKE was interesting?:O:

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Originally Posted by Seadog:
Do you mean the race was interesting or SUPERDUKE was interesting?:O:

as alway's both:wink

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Originally Posted by interpreter66:
they ran woo inside the florida suncoast dome on a dirt track and it was a 1/5
it was interesting, i even saw duke there

The Outlaws never got paid for that show. When was that, '92 or so?

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I covered the AVSS race at the Speedrome back in my Hoseheads days...it was a decent race if I recall correctly. Then again, it's rare that I have a bad memory of a race unless someone got hurt or something...

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Originally Posted by interpreter66:
they ran woo inside the florida suncoast dome on a dirt track and it was a 1/5
it was interesting, i even saw duke there

I WAS THERE SELLING FIRESTONES! ONE NITE IS ALL THEY TRIED! IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!!!!:kookoo:rolling

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
Duke...Bloom is talking about the HOSS Series at Salem and Winchester in regard to the 160 and 170 mph. Anyone who knows Jeff Bloom..knows he will tell you what he thinks.

The Speedrome track is larger than the RCA Dome track was.

I saw the AVSS race at the Speedrome firsthand..and I saw a clean race with passing that was interesting.

Jack Calabrase was our race director at the RCA Dome...and he was the AVSS director at the Speedrome in 2000. My decision to run HOSS at the Speedrome is based on that influence. Both events worked.

I KNOW AND RESPECT JEFF BUT THEY DON'T RUN 160 OR 170 MPH THERE! ON THE MILE DIRT TRACKS LIKE SPRINGFIELD ILL. THE CHAMP DIRT CARS WHERE FASTER THEN THE WOO CARS BY 10 MPH ON THE STRIGHTAWAYS!!:checkered:

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Just in my own defense guys I wasnt saying that pile up ever happened.I was just saying what I THOUGHT might happen.Not saying it ever did.I didnt see the show that HOSS ran before so I dont know.It just seems like a awful little track to me.Sorry to misguide you Tony.Im not by any means saying dont try it that it will never be a good show.It may be.Wings do a great deal for sprint cars on pavement and I hope it works out.Just wanted to clear the air here.Not saying its not possible.Sorry for any mixup in my post.

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A few seasons back I attended an AVSS show at Salem. Why he was there I do not know, but a Washington Co. Sheriff's car was sitting inside turn 3 and clocking cars with his radar. Got several 150+ mph readings that night. 170 might be stretching it a little, but I do know they hauled it that night!

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I believe Cameron Dodsons world record time at winchester saw him at 180 at the end of the back stretch...remember they are 410s, on pavement, not lifting at the baddest track in the nation. I saw it and i believe it.

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I'd have that radar gun checked.

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Originally Posted by JakeMoore:
I believe Cameron Dodsons world record time at winchester saw him at 180 at the end of the back stretch...remember they are 410s, on pavement, not lifting at the baddest track in the nation. I saw it and i believe it.

WHAT WAS HIS TIME? 18 SEC. IS 100 MPH ON A HALF MILE!!!!!!!!!! WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??????????????:kookoo:rolling

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Originally Posted by superduke:
what was his time? 18 sec. Is 100 mph on a half mile!!!!!!!!!! What are you smoking??????????????:kookoo:rolling

13.539 132.949mph

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Originally Posted by JakeMoore:
I believe Cameron Dodsons world record time at winchester saw him at 180 at the end of the back stretch...remember they are 410s, on pavement, not lifting at the baddest track in the nation. I saw it and i believe it.

NOT LIFTING?????????? WOW!:kookoo:headbang

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Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
I KNOW AND RESPECT JEFF BUT THEY DON'T RUN 160 OR 170 MPH THERE! ON THE MILE DIRT TRACKS LIKE SPRINGFIELD ILL. THE CHAMP DIRT CARS WHERE FASTER THEN THE WOO CARS BY 10 MPH ON THE STRIGHTAWAYS!!:checkered:

Yeah right DUD. Thats what you for buying a radar gun from Walmart.

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Originally Posted by hogan6:
Yeah right DUD. Thats what you for buying a radar gun from Walmart.

***?:moon::moon::kookoo

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Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
NOT LIFTING?????????? WOW!:kookoo:headbang

Shocked DUD? We all know you were all about lifting.

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Gee Hogan6, more personal attacks?

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Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
I KNOW AND RESPECT JEFF BUT THEY DON'T RUN 160 OR 170 MPH THERE! ON THE MILE DIRT TRACKS LIKE SPRINGFIELD ILL. THE CHAMP DIRT CARS WHERE FASTER THEN THE WOO CARS BY 10 MPH ON THE STRIGHTAWAYS!!:checkered:

And you also have some ocean front property in Arizona you want to sell?
:wink

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Originally Posted by ou812:
and you also have some ocean front property in arizona you want to sell?
:wink

i was there when the run woo and usac champ dirt cars same day! Where you?

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Originally Posted by hogan6:
Yeah right DUD. Thats what you for buying a radar gun from Walmart.

Originally Posted by OU812:
And you also have some ocean front property in Arizona you want to sell?
:wink

What don't you guys understand? Why wouldn't a wingless race car of comparable horsepower make more straightaway speed than a winged one? The wing creates downforce that enables the car to get through the turns much quicker, but in a straight line all it does is create drag. And this is a mile track Duke is talking about; the straights are plenty long enough for the speed of a nearly drag-free car (by comparison) to overcome the extra speed a winged car is carrying out of the corner.

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Originally Posted by Fisher79:
What don't you guys understand? Why wouldn't a wingless race car of comparable horsepower make more straightaway speed than a winged one? The wing creates downforce that enables the car to get through the turns much quicker, but in a straight line all it does is create drag. And this is a mile track Duke is talking about; the straights are plenty long enough for the speed of a nearly drag-free car (by comparison) to overcome the extra speed a winged car is carrying out of the corner.

YOUR RIGHT!!! YOUR A SMART HOOSIER! YOUR IN A SMALL BAND THERE ENJOY IT!!!!:thumb

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Duke is right on this one WOO cars are slower on the straightaways than champ cars one 1 mile tracks.

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Originally Posted by sc96:
Duke is right on this one WOO cars are slower on the straightaways than champ cars one 1 mile tracks.

I'AM RIGHT 99% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb

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Originally Posted by OU812:
And you also have some ocean front property in Arizona you want to sell?
:wink

NO BUT I HAVE SOME SMART PILLS!!!!!! AND YOU NEED THEM!:doh::headbang

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Originally Posted by hogan6:
Shocked DUD? We all know you were all about lifting.

YOUR RIGHT I WAS ALWAYS LIFTING AFTER EVERYONE ELSE!:rolling