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Dwight Clock 10/17/07 12:31 PM

2008 Indiana Sprint Week
 
USAC and the various promoters have set the dates for the 2008 version of ISW. http://www.usacracing.com:applaud::thumb:

Kirk Spridgeon 10/17/07 12:50 PM

Re: 2008 Indiana Sprint Week
 
Can I be the first to complain? I want two races at Haubstadt.
Thanks...

Dwight Clock 10/17/07 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 14628)
Can I be the first to complain? I want two races at Haubstadt.
Thanks...

:rolling::rolling:

Mud Packer 10/17/07 1:01 PM

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Glad to see an early release so we can start making plans. Thanks uSAC.:thumb:

Pine 10/17/07 1:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 14628)
Can I be the first to complain? I want two races at Haubstadt.
Thanks...

Just sit back and watch Spridge. It won't take long for the :censor:ing to begin.

Onlydirt 10/17/07 1:57 PM

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Make them all two night shows! Would that help or hurt...any thoughts?

D.O. 10/17/07 2:03 PM

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Charles Nungester 10/17/07 3:07 PM

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so is this gonna be run under the 32 top qualifiers locked in system or a passing points system?

Makes all the difference if I go or not and probably a ton of teams as well.
I'll probably visit the Burg shows but for traveling I want to see the best show possible and this year it was Midget Week by a longshot.

Chuck, not a major gripe. Just a observation (I want the locals to race these shows and last year they DIDN'T)

Dyno Don 10/17/07 3:19 PM

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I think it is a shame that because of a certain individual, there are no races at THAT or Twin Cities.( Maybe I should have mentioned Rutnamville, but these days they have become irrelevant.)

stuecklen 10/17/07 4:34 PM

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Can anyone recommend a place to stay near Gas City and Kokomo?
Looks like they are close to each other, might be nice to stay at
one hotel for three nights. Thanks.

Dwight Clock 10/17/07 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stuecklen (Post 14657)
Can anyone recommend a place to stay near Gas City and Kokomo?
Looks like they are close to each other, might be nice to stay at
one hotel for three nights. Thanks.

Within a half mile of Gas City there is a Holiday Inn Express, Super 8, and a Comfort Inn. You would have about a 30 mile trip back from Kokomo but it would be a good choice if you wish to stay at the same place for three days.

CAJ 10/17/07 5:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 14642)
so is this gonna be run under the 32 top qualifiers locked in system or a passing points system?

Makes all the difference if I go or not and probably a ton of teams as well.
I'll probably visit the Burg shows but for traveling I want to see the best show possible and this year it was Midget Week by a longshot.

Chuck, not a major gripe. Just a observation (I want the locals to race these shows and last year they DIDN'T)

I have no doubt Gregg will certainly make a note of how you would like to see 2008 ISW series formated!

Me personaly, if it ain't broke don't "try" and fix it! Last years format was just fine and I saw some of the best racing in the U.S. just the way it was!

:headbang: :angry-smiley-007:

Charles Nungester 10/17/07 6:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAJ (Post 14665)
I have no doubt Gregg will certainly make a note of how you would like to see 2008 ISW series formated!

Me personaly, if it ain't broke don't "try" and fix it! Last years format was just fine and I saw some of the best racing in the U.S. just the way it was!

:headbang: :angry-smiley-007:


What I saw wasn't bad, But a normal show with 6 heats, Two consis and 40 cars running at least two races each beats it IMHO
Over
50 cars, Four heats and 18 of them load up after a 8 lap LCQ.

Im Just saying Midget week had 50 car average. 5-6 heats at each show, Two consi's and some hellacious racing going on in the heats They didn't stop at 3rd because many times, THIRD WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH. If its guaranteed a top 4 make the A. There is no extra incentive for someone running in a locked in possition to move forward.

I understand USAC's format. Its for their Series racers. At a normal USAC show this works fairly well (32 Locked) Because mainly not many *Outside teams* attempt them anyway.

Could you imagin\g Sprint Week with 100 car following and nothing else on the card? make the format where everyone has a chance and I believe it's possible.

I'll go to some SW shows but like I said after this years. IT COULD BE BETTER and after MW shows, that showed me HOW MUCH BETTER IT COULD BE! :thumb::thumb:

I know Greg reads these boards sometimes, The mans a standup guy and will give you reasons in person or in a official capcity. He's honest and tells it like it is. He also knows I tell it like I see it and praise when praise is due. BTW Greg, Thanks for working hard on getting some stuff hammered out for next year so early. It's easier to make plans for :)

Chuck, Tentativily planning on doing the PA tour and all of Midget week.

CAJ 10/17/07 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 14676)
Could you imagin\g Sprint Week with 100 car following and nothing else on the card? make the format where everyone has a chance and I believe it's possible.

Chuck, I can imagine world peace, but I doubt that's gonna happen any time soon and hopefully neither will a change in format.

Just because YOU don't like qualifying, doesn't mean you are the in the majority. I would love to see an honest poll on qualifying.
:thumb:/:thumbsdown:

Everybody has an opinion, (like other things everyone has), and it is my opinion that midgets are midgets and sprints are sprints. There is no valid reason to treat them the same, after all, how manys locals did this format you so disire to change to, help to make the MIDGET show?

Charles Nungester 10/17/07 7:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAJ (Post 14683)
Chuck, I can imagine world peace, but I doubt that's gonna happen any time soon and hopefully neither will a change in format.

Just because YOU don't like qualifying, doesn't mean you are the in the majority. I would love to see an honest poll on qualifying.
:thumb:/:thumbsdown:

Everybody has an opinion, (like other things everyone has), and it is my opinion that midgets are midgets and sprints are sprints. There is no valid reason to treat them the same, after all, how manys locals did this format you so disire to change to, help to make the MIDGET show?

22 cars at the 2006 LBurg midget show. 52 this year.

We can agree to dissagree. What I say isn't law, A dictation or a boycott. It's about seeing the best show possible.

Qualifying at times is very entertaining. Others I find it quite boring. I don't hate it but often track conditions more than a drivers ability and equiptment determine who gets where. (Im not saying that to be derogitory to any team or driver) Sometimes the tracks better at the end, Sometimes the beginging. Sometimes it's good for nobody which also equals the field and actually exploits a team and drivers actual abilities.

Chuck, who don't find the entertaiment and competiton when I can tell you the top five qualifiers of most USAC shows before they even start. Levi, Swindell, Bacon, Coons, Stenhouse

Dirtfan 10/17/07 8:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAJ (Post 14665)
I have no doubt Gregg will certainly make a note of how you would like to see 2008 ISW series formated!

Me personaly, if it ain't broke don't "try" and fix it! Last years format was just fine and I saw some of the best racing in the U.S. just the way it was!

:headbang: :angry-smiley-007:

Agreed:thumb:

J.D. 10/17/07 9:08 PM

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I would like to see Sprint Week points kept seperate from all other points and if any provisionals are granted, let that be based on points during Sprint week. Actually, Stanbrough won Sprint Week this year, if Darland wouldn't have got a provisional the last night! I would just like to see every team have the same chance as the USAC guys and lets see who the best is during Indiana Sprint Week!

dirtywhiteboy 10/17/07 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aussiemidgetfan (Post 14698)
as a tourist, I would want to travel across most of the state so I could do all the touristy things during the day. jmho (still trying for ISW/Oshkosh Airventure in 2008.....)

With the price of gas likely being 4 a gallon next summer nationwide I think it is a great idea to have two night shows at these tracks.

Might get a higher car count.

Sandy Lowe 10/17/07 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 14685)
22 cars at the 2006 LBurg midget show. 52 this year.

Lawrenceburg didn't have a Midget week show in 2006. IIRC Midget Week consisted of only Gas City and Kokomo last year.

Lawrenceburg was a part of the inaugural Midget Week in 2005. They had 41 cars (not 22), 5 heats with passing points, a semi and a feature which Jay Drake won in the Kunz #67 after leading all 30 laps.

The reason you remember the number 22 is because I think that is how many fans showed up for the Thursday night show.

Charles Nungester 10/17/07 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe (Post 14737)
Lawrenceburg didn't have a Midget week show in 2006. IIRC Midget Week consisted of only Gas City and Kokomo last year.

Lawrenceburg was a part of the inaugural Midget Week in 2005. They had 41 cars (not 22), 5 heats with passing points, a semi and a feature which Jay Drake won in the Kunz #67 after leading all 30 laps.

The reason you remember the number 22 is because I think that is how many fans showed up for the Thursday night show.


I was one of them and it wasn't well attended. It probably was 05 Sandy.

Chuck, who don't remember that many cars, Maybe there was, I just remember barely enough for a consi but you have the facts. I don't

Sandy Lowe 10/17/07 11:41 PM

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Chuck,

I think this is the race you were thinking about:
USAC NATIONAL MIDGET CAR SERIES RACE RESULTS:
June 1, 2003 - Lawrenceburg, Indiana - Lawrenceburg Speedway

QUALIFICATIONS:
1. J.J. Yeley, 9, Lewis - 13.461
2. Dave Darland, 19, Lewis - 13.745
3. Tracy Hines, 11, Wilke/Pak - 13.825
4. Bobby East, 4, Klatt - 13.834
5. Jay Drake, 71, Stewart/Kunz - 13.865
6. Shane Hollingsworth, 85, Hollingsworth - 13.981
7. Matt Brun, 28, Brun - 14.053
8. Shane Cottle, 86, Gross - 14.064
9. Steve Buckwalter, 25, Buckwalter - 14.065
10. Aaron Fike, 32, RFMS - 14.111
11. Jerry Coons Jr., 24, Parker - 14.220
12. Josh Ford, 41, Griffith - 14.224
13. Teddy Beach, 125, Beach - 14.273
14. Critter Malone, 7c, Malone - 14.279
15. Ryan Durst, 51, Durst - 14.329
16. Billy Wease, 112, Wease - 14.352
17. A.J. Fike, 69, RFMS - 14.366
18. Rick Vaughn, 31, Trusty - 14.399
19. Chad Davenport, 43, Davenport - 14.514
20. Clay Klepper, 17, Hartman - 14.598
21. Tom Hessert, 5, Hessert - 14.616
22. Ryan Scott, 10, Moore - 14.616
23. Cole Carter, 7, Carter - 14.891
24. Springer Smith, 42, Smith - 14.991
25. Matt Sandy, 16, Sandy - 20.982
26. #6, Klatt-NT.

FIRST HEAT: (8 laps)
1. Aaron Fike
2. Yeley
3. Scott
4. Wease
5. East
6. Beach
7. Davenport
8. Brun. NT

SECOND HEAT: (8 laps)
1. Darland
2. Drake
3. Coons
4. A.J. Fike
5. Malone
6. Cottle
7. Klepper
8. Carter. NT

THIRD HEAT: (8 laps)
1. Durst
2. Buckwalter
3. Hollingsworth
4. Hines
5. Ford
6. Vaughn
7. Hessert
8. Smith. 1:56.93

FEATURE: (30 laps)
1. J.J. Yeley
2. Jerry Coons Jr.
3. Tracy Hines
4. Bobby East
5. A.J. FIke
6. Billy Wease
7. Ryan Durst
8. Matt Brun
9. Tom Hessert
10. Steve Buckwalter
11. Clay Klepper
12. Shane Cottle
13. Critter Malone
14. Shane Hollingsworth
15. Teddy Beach
16. Ryan Scott
17. Chad Davenport
18. Cole Carter
19. Rick Vaughn
20. Jay Drake
21. Dave Darland
22. Aaron Fike
23. Josh Ford
24. Springer Smith. NT

**Ford flipped during qualifying.

FEATURE LAP LEADERS: Lap 1 Hollingsworth, Laps 2-18 Drake, Laps 19-22 Hollingsworth, Laps 23-30 Yeley.

Charles Nungester 10/18/07 6:21 AM

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Sucks getting older, Some races five years ago seem like last year and I can't remember last years :)

Marv, Whats the secret?
Chuck

Dwight Clock 10/18/07 6:59 AM

Re: 2008 Indiana Sprint Week
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 14756)
Sucks getting older, Some races five years ago seem like last year and I can't remember last years :)

Marv, Whats the secret?
Chuck

:emote20:...He doesn't remember and neither do I!:rolling:

petey 10/18/07 8:50 PM

Re: 2008 Indiana Sprint Week
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 14628)
Can I be the first to complain? I want two races at Haubstadt.
Thanks...

2nded

racefan20 10/18/07 9:55 PM

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I was at the midget week show at the burg and I remember saying that we finally had a midget & sprint show with no other support classes and no fans showed up. Kinda pi$$ed us off. Everyone always bitched about support classes and when Tom gave us what we wanted and he took a financial bath for it. It was a shame.

Dirtfan 10/18/07 9:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 14846)
I was at the midget week show at the burg and I remember saying that we finally had a midget & sprint show with no other support classes and no fans showed up. Kinda pi$$ed us off. Everyone always bitched about support classes and when Tom gave us what we wanted and he took a financial bath for it. It was a shame.

Just a thought, you did mention Tom:headbang: See you this weekend?

racefan20 10/18/07 10:27 PM

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See you this weekend?
Of course, wouldt miss it for the world. Thinking about starting the anti rain dance though

Offy22 10/19/07 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by petey (Post 14813)
2nded

I'm tradin' my usual K-ville Nats journey for Sprint Week. No wings and bull rings are the ticket. I'd like a pair at Haubstadt but what venue would be sacrificed? I like all the current tracks except Bosewell that I've never heard of. What city is it by and what size track is it? Sure hope the gas prices hold out so I have enuff beer money left. I see some good racin' and partyin' in me future with Petey, Stubb, Coach Bob, Mighty Quinn etc. Spridge, you learn to party yet? You gotta be nudgin 21 by now.:pissonwings:

Offy22 10/19/07 12:29 PM

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Ain't that a beat all...Aussie mate givin' a Florida cracker information on an Indiana race track. The world is gettin' smaller & warmer, no doubt.

Charles Nungester 10/19/07 12:34 PM

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Kamp's a nice track. Big Quarter Mile with slidejobs!

The seatings excellent, The foods ok and the restrooms stink.

Chuck, who really didn't care. The reacing was good :)

Onlydirt 10/19/07 12:45 PM

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Nobody mentioned how wide Kamp is...You could easily run 6 wide, you wont be inthe right groove, but there is a ton of room.

Restrooms...I was sitting right in front of them (didnt find them until on the way out)and only thought there was portapots the entire night, they do have restrooms just a bit small for a ISW crowd.

Food: Took a while to get through the line, but I like what I ate. Again they are probably not used to ISW crowd sizes.


I bet all the above is better next year, also want to be mentioned being thanked 3 times by the staff on entering for comming to the race!!

Andrew S. Quinn 10/19/07 8:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Offy22 (Post 14869)
I'm tradin' my usual K-ville Nats journey for Sprint Week. No wings and bull rings are the ticket. I'd like a pair at Haubstadt but what venue would be sacrificed? I like all the current tracks except Bosewell that I've never heard of. What city is it by and what size track is it? Sure hope the gas prices hold out so I have enuff beer money left. I see some good racin' and partyin' in me future with Petey, Stubb, Couch Bob, Mighty Quinn etc. Spridge, you learn to party yet? You gotta be nudgin 21 by now.:pissonwings:

Bout time you found this board, John.

Called Knoxville room mate # 2 the other day to advise the ISW schedule. The roomies decided along with myself that the Nationals were no longer worth the price,even for the social side of it. They have decided that Indiana Sprint Week is the replacement for the Nationals.



Seeing that I live in Indiana now,its easy enough for me to do. I have got to find a replacement for Knoxville though,maybe Belleville for the midgets.

PS Kamp is out in the middle of the cornfields, so far outit might even confuse your GPS. The corn was getting watered quite often while the supports were running.


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