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Pine 3/18/09 7:14 PM

OT: Brownstown Late Models
 
I was never at Brownstown but was thinking about coming out this Sat. night for the Outlaw Late Models.

1) Are they still running?
2) Will they call it if its to cold?
3) Whats the track like?
4) Should/could it be a good show??
5) If they run, Jonsey are you in:cheers????

Thanks for any info...

smith19 3/18/09 7:38 PM

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they usually get 60-70 cars. the track is a 1/4 mile semi baked track at the jackson county fairgrounds. i doubt if the call the race because it's a good money maker. they had their biggest crowd ever at this race a couple of years ago. if the cars can get off the bottom it will be an exellent show.

JordanBlanton 3/18/09 8:08 PM

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The Icebreaker tends to be a good race. I thought last year was excellent. Bart Hartmann was CHARGING through the field until his right rear started going down. It'll probably get dusty, but the early-season shows at Brownstown are usually really good and racy.

Pine 3/18/09 8:47 PM

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Sounds like it could be worth the drive.....

Chris Nunn 3/18/09 8:52 PM

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CORONA, CA (March 10, 2009) – In what is rapidly becoming a tradition, the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series and Brownstown Speedway are teaming up once again to present the 12th Annual “Indiana Icebreaker” on Saturday Night, March 21st at the South-Central Indiana facility. It will be the season opener for Brownstown Speedway, and with the stars of the LOLMDS on hand, it has all the makings of another action packed brawl for the checkers in front of a packed grandstand and pit area for the $10,000 to win event. The rain-date for the event is Sunday, March 22nd.



There will be a complete show for the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series, who will boast of one of their strongest lineups in their five-year history, and also kick off the Sunoco Race Fuels “Road to Wheatland” gets underway as 20 drivers will be eligible for the $700 winners circle program starting at Brownstown. The quarter-mile speedplant promoted by Tim Keithley will see PRC Time Trials, Heat Races, B-Mains and the $10,000 to win/$700 to start the 12th Annual “Indiana Icebreaker” which is sponsored by Rightway Construction and Outlaw Chassis and Fabrication.



This coming weekend, the 29th Annual Jackson 100 taped last September will air on SPEED Channel at 7:30 PM Eastern/6:30 PM Central on Saturday Night, March 14th as part of the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series national broadcast schedule.



The “Indiana Icebreaker” will also be previewed next Tuesday Night, March 17th during the Lucas Oil Motorsports Hour broadcast live on www.dirtcast.com with series announcer, James Essex.



Coming off of a record-setting 2008 season, where the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series had 22 different winners in the 40 races that were contested in 18 different states as 695 drivers competed with the series at least once. The visit to Brownstown will mark the series’ first event since a successful ’09 DART Winternationals at East Bay Raceway Park in Tampa, FL where Billy Moyer of Batesville, AR captured the DART points fund earning $5,000.



The tire rule for the Indiana Icebreaker will be as follows: Hoosier LM20, 1300, 1350, LM40, 1600 and the shoulder-plated D55 along with the American Racer SD44, SD48 and MD56.



For more information on the 12th Annual “Indiana Icebreaker” at Brownstown Speedway in Brownstown, Indiana, log onto the track’s website at www.brownstownspeedway.com.



For the latest information on the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series, visit the series website at www.lucasdirt.com or call the series office at (951) 532-2503.

Chris Nunn 3/18/09 8:55 PM

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LUCAS OIL LATE MODEL DIRT SERIES: $10,000 to win and $700 to start
UMP MODIFIEDS $1,000 to win and $100 to start
UMP SUPER STOCKS $1,000 to win and $100 to start
UMP PURE STOCKS $500 to win and $60 to start
YOU CAN MARK OFF SEATS STARTING THURSDAY AFTER 8AM
GENERAL ADMISSION $30
GATES WILL OPEN SATURDAY AT 1:00PM
HOT LAPS SCHEDULED AT 5PM


(IMPORTANT INFO FOR LATE MODEL FANS: WE WILL BE RUNNING THE LATE MODELS FIRST AND FOREMOST THROUGH THE EVENING. WE WILL RUN THE ICEBREAKER FEATURE BEFORE WE RUN ANY SUPPORT CLASS CONSIS AND FEATURES. OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE LATE MODEL FANS OUT BEFORE 10PM)

Chris Nunn 3/18/09 8:56 PM

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If the track is any indication of what it has been lately, look for this to happen. This is the lap leader recap from the Jackson 100, and remember this is OFFICIAL lead changes, not counting passes happening on the other parts of the track.

Lap Leaders: Earl Pearson Jr. 1-3, Steve Francis 4-20, Jimmy Owens 21, Francis 22, Owens 23-68, Tim McCreadie 69-78, Pearson 79-82, McCreadie 83-100

Pine 3/18/09 9:32 PM

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Everything sounds pretty good. BUT, thats' ALOOOOOOT of Ump's....

Thats cool that your only running the Ump heats then completing the Late Model show:thumb

AERO410SCJA 3/18/09 11:54 PM

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30 bucks for 10 grand to win ouchhhhhhh

agar 3/19/09 12:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA (Post 92795)
30 bucks for 10 grand to win ouchhhhhhh

The Last two years it was well worth the 30 bucks Get there Early and dress warm you will see the best Late Model Drivers Last year the heat races were worth the money alone

Chris Nunn 3/19/09 1:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA (Post 92795)
30 bucks for 10 grand to win ouchhhhhhh

Compare that to paying $20 for $4,000 to win or $5,000 to win in Sprints, there is no comparison. With the $30 you are getting $10K to win, 60+ cars, and also $1,000 to win in two other classes.

And you arent getting the same cars you would see on a normal basis

AlkyMadness 3/19/09 2:02 AM

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As a sprint fan (and part time late model fan), you're right, there is no comparison. I'll take the sprint show for $20 and drive by a track charging $30 for a late model show anyday.

I know the Icebreaker is always a good show and everything, but for me these ticket prices are enough. This year the late model shows should be called the ball-breakers because that's what the ticket prices are doing to me.

Every track in this area has decided that $25-$30 is now the norm. I broke down and went to the Southern All Star race at Cherokee ($10K to win) and paid $25. Turned out to be 27 cars and the race was so-so (one guy won the race into turn1 and was only briefly challenged). The best entertainment was when the fans/family got to fighting in the stands after the race:rolleyes:

But, the place was packed with fans. As soon as that race was over, a nearby track announced there upcoming race would be $25 for a $5k to win show. They got rained out, but they caught a lot of flack on message boards and dropped the make up date to $20 (but also dropped a crate model race from the bill).

This is all beginning to remind me of the 80's when NASCAR started to get popular and the tickets started going up $5-10 every year.

Hey, if you feel you get your moneys worth, go for it. But, I've "been there, done that, got the shirt" and I don't feel I need to pay it. I'll save my money for the "cheaper" sprint shows. Or reasonably priced late model shows if I can find any, probably be the weekly shows.

Makes me wonder where the recession is when it's standing room only for races with this kind of gate.

I will say hats off to Eldora. The tickets for the Dream and World have not increased at all for years and the track has made several improvements for the fans. They could easily fall in line and up the prices, but they've held them in check.

Diggsy 3/19/09 8:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agar (Post 92798)
The Last two years it was well worth the 30 bucks Get there Early and dress warm you will see the best Late Model Drivers Last year the heat races were worth the money alone

Heck, I get my money's worth (and goose bumps) when the first hot lap session hits the track. I'll gladly fork over my $30 to see some of the best late model drivers in the country battle for 10k :D

dkdorkboy 3/19/09 9:13 AM

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In the middle of the summer with sprints running.No I would not go ,but i need a fix and it's been a long winter.Agree the $30 is a little steep but hey it's only money and gas prices are down now.:checkered:

falcon20 3/19/09 9:39 AM

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Chris, I used to visit Brownstown many years ago. I believe Roger Williams and then James Essex were the operators. Harder to make the 3 hour drive these days, but I intend to take the grandkids when the weather warms up. Does John Gill still run there.
Thanks.

1021gpa 3/19/09 10:38 AM

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i will have to say i never went to a lucas oil late model race till last year at the jackson 100 and it ended up being a hell of a good show even the mods put on a good show ...i say i will not go but and pay the $30 but when 4pm rolls around saturday i will probably be over there(only 10 minutes from my house) just to get my racing fix...although i have been over there last 2 weeks for practice in the hornet

Pine 3/19/09 11:26 AM

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30$ seems reasonable for a 10,000$ to win.

But then again I really don't care what a race pays to win, because when the green flag drops, I know I have NO chance of winning:D.

I will say one thing though. The Outlaw Sprints have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. Late Model's have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. USAC don't have enough fans that will pay 30 to get in, AND THATS WHY THEY RUN FOR THE PURSE THEY DO. Just my opinion.......

P.S...Chris Nunn save me four good seats for Sat, night:D...

cmakin 3/19/09 11:46 AM

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We have the WoO Late Models down here for the Lone Star 100 this weekend. I know Bloomquist is supposed to be up at the Icebreaker, though. They are paying US$20K to win and admission is 35 buckaroos. Pit passes are 40 (20 for practice tonight).

Eagle14 3/19/09 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine (Post 92840)
30$ seems reasonable for a 10,000$ to win.

But then again I really don't care what a race pays to win, because when the green flag drops, I know I have NO chance of winning:D.

I will say one thing though. The Outlaw Sprints have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. Late Model's have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. USAC don't have enough fans that will pay 30 to get in, AND THATS WHY THEY RUN FOR THE PURSE THEY DO. Just my opinion.......

P.S...Chris Nunn save me four good seats for Sat, night:D...

Interesting Statement...

Pitpass 3/19/09 12:01 PM

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How much are pit passes?

Sandy Lowe 3/19/09 12:21 PM

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$45

Chris Nunn 3/19/09 12:34 PM

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A pit pass is $15 extra at the pit gate

jjones776 3/19/09 12:54 PM

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hey pine me and a couple buddies are thinking about heading down to brownstown. give me a call when you get a chance and let me know if you are going. we are not 100% sure yet.

No Wings 3/19/09 4:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjones776 (Post 92858)
hey pine me and a couple buddies are thinking about heading down to brownstown. give me a call when you get a chance and let me know if you are going. we are not 100% sure yet.

you will be there with there party bus:cheers

AERO410SCJA 3/19/09 9:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pine (Post 92840)
30$ seems reasonable for a 10,000$ to win.

But then again I really don't care what a race pays to win, because when the green flag drops, I know I have NO chance of winning:D.

I will say one thing though. The Outlaw Sprints have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. Late Model's have fans that will pay 30 to get in and thats why they run for the purse they do. USAC don't have enough fans that will pay 30 to get in, AND THATS WHY THEY RUN FOR THE PURSE THEY DO. Just my opinion.......

P.S...Chris Nunn save me four good seats for Sat, night:D...

PINE -1/2 of USAC FANS are on a set income ,the other 1/4 are the parents of the drivers !That leaves a 1/4 of us to move this SPORT FORWARD:headbang

cmakin 3/20/09 8:01 AM

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In continuing with the off topic theam of this thread, I have shots of the WoO Late Models at Battleground Speedway on my site, www.manvelmotorsports.com


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