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Happy Independence Day America next week!! We are a year away from the Macon debacle. Bacon has left to suck at wing racing and comes back to Usac with decent success. Of course no one knows if he is legal. Spridge still has a job but when his boss hangs his hat on changing the old office into a dance floor I guess quality is not what Usac is about. On this board Usac posts nothing and hides. The ultimate two defenders of the shield are relatively quiet. Funk is MIA and 55 does his best to protect. I live out East and the level of teams who travelled here was good but small. Non Wing racing is not what everyone knows so Usac needs to promote the product in a way to get noticed. This all has to do with promotion from Speedway Indiana. Saturday nite at Port Royal the sprint cars and worse SC didn’t have large fields. The sprint cars ran for 6g at Port while there was a 250g and a 100g race to win for sprint cars in other parts of the country. This is totally a disaster out of Speedway. They had 4 paid people on the broadcast yet only paid 6g to win. It can still be the best on track racing in the country but it’s clear due to tons of pork up top and no promotion no one knows what they are missing.
I stood in the drivers meeting at WG and thought to my self a 10th grader could have run what I witnessed. The same sheet of procedure for years and the guy reading it looked like it was his first time and we know it’s not.
I’m not a favorite on this board I know. It pains me to watch this inept group continue to lead the decline of real sprint car racing. I’ll travel next week to Kokomo and LPS in hopes of quality track prep and great racing. I still continue to wish there was a group in charge that had the vigor to promote for bigger and better events to get these teams the money they deserve.

Yeah, I'm super jacked about Huset's next year too.

You’re one of my favorites on the IOW board, even if we don’t always agree.

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I am surprised no one is talking the car count at Fremont last weekend. USAC and Ohio can only draw 26 cars on a Saturday night.

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I was at the Fremont show and car count was about what I expected. They had more than a full field so I was ok with it. Ohio has zero non-wing tracks, and I believe the local Indiana tracks had shows. Usac usually struggles outside of their main area, so I'm curious what you expected for car count.

Excellent post YeleyFan76!! I always love how you speak your mind!! And you are one of my favorites on here!! I wish somehow I could meet you at Kokomo tonight bc I would most certainly shake your hand and buy a beverage of your choice!! Same with you Flagboy55!!

My favorite race of the year is tonight!!!! With Smackdown being a very close 2nd lol!! Tonight and tomorrow, myself, my family, and my friends celebrate my late father's life who worked the backstretch gate at Kokomo through the 80s and early 90s.

On July 3, 2021 I had finished my work for the day and went out to my dad's farm to help him and my kid finish shaving, trimming, and grooming her goats to get ready to take them to our 4H Fair the next weekend for her 7th year of 4H. As I got there my dad acted like he was 40 years old and didnt have a disease that was taking his life from him. Acted like he was in the best shape of his life!! He told me to get the **** off of his farm, that him and my kid had it under control and to get to the races and enjoy my life that he felt great and would see me tomorrow...all my kid could do was bust out laughing and say hey bro, papaw said get the **** off the farm and get to the races bc we got this...little did her or I know the next day she would have heart, soul, and backbone ripped out and away from her...when tomorrow rolled around, that would be the last time I ever seen him alive and he was taking his last breath!!

So the July 3rd fireworks race at Kokomo has since been a staple to me, my family, and my friends to celebrate my dad's life in a good happy positive way knowing every July 4th is tough for us!! We have been pumped up for this race for a while!! Its all we have talked about since Montpelier Saturday!!

Awesome show coming up tonight with Sprints, UMP Mods, and Thunder Cars...normally one of the best fireworks displays in this part of the state!! Hopefully its a packed house for the O'Connor Family and the Teams and Drivers!!

Yeleyfan76 and Flagboy55 we will be on the backstretch, back row, grilling out, celebrating my dad's life if you want to come by and introduce yourselves!! Safe travels to all!! Happy Independence Day tomorrow!!

16j, we will meet up sometime. The only one I’m able to make this weekend is Saturday at LPS

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Enjoy the evening at Kokomo. I read this late or would have walked back there. We will be out for Smackdown as always. I’ll contact you closer to the event to try and meet. Happy Independence Day! ����

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
Happy Independence Day America next week!! We are a year away from the Macon debacle. Bacon has left to suck at wing racing and comes back to Usac with decent success. Of course no one knows if he is legal. Spridge still has a job but when his boss hangs his hat on changing the old office into a dance floor I guess quality is not what Usac is about. On this board Usac posts nothing and hides. The ultimate two defenders of the shield are relatively quiet. Funk is MIA and 55 does his best to protect. I live out East and the level of teams who travelled here was good but small. Non Wing racing is not what everyone knows so Usac needs to promote the product in a way to get noticed. This all has to do with promotion from Speedway Indiana. Saturday nite at Port Royal the sprint cars and worse SC didn’t have large fields. The sprint cars ran for 6g at Port while there was a 250g and a 100g race to win for sprint cars in other parts of the country. This is totally a disaster out of Speedway. They had 4 paid people on the broadcast yet only paid 6g to win. It can still be the best on track racing in the country but it’s clear due to tons of pork up top and no promotion no one knows what they are missing.
I stood in the drivers meeting at WG and thought to my self a 10th grader could have run what I witnessed. The same sheet of procedure for years and the guy reading it looked like it was his first time and we know it’s not.
I’m not a favorite on this board I know. It pains me to watch this inept group continue to lead the decline of real sprint car racing. I’ll travel next week to Kokomo and LPS in hopes of quality track prep and great racing. I still continue to wish there was a group in charge that had the vigor to promote for bigger and better events to get these teams the money they deserve.

Was the "Macon debacle" the tech / weight issue?

Please explain the "dance floor" deal.

I suppose it goes back to if the sanction body is the promotion effort or if they expect the tracks to promote the product.

Every time I mentioned missing their posts on here (coming up on about a year now...) it gets explained to me like there is no other way to have it shared on here (unless I wana do it myself) and there is no time for it to be done another way...

Does anyone think maybe USAC will almost have to run winged sprints again someday maybe (they ran them some in the 80s)? Perhaps too late for that though...with High Limit and POWRi coming in with those...

https://www.usacracing.com/news/mill...s-june-29-2025

Anyone can go to this website to get all the information they want about USAC and it’s very easy to post a link. Not sure why USAC information isn’t routinely posted here but it is pretty easy find on the interweb.

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USAC is horrible for everything EXCEPT THE RACING

:15::15::15:

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Originally Posted by The55:
https://www.usacracing.com/news/mill...s-june-29-2025

Anyone can go to this website to get all the information they want about USAC and it’s very easy to post a link. Not sure why USAC information isn’t routinely posted here but it is pretty easy find on the interweb.

Where does it mention the dance floor? lol. I have no idea what that is about...anyone?

& what happened at Macon last year? I tried looking it up but Richie's stories are packed full of info, but I didn't notice anything that jumped out. The DQ deal right (was anyone really)? Idt that was published right? How about the fines? I really can't remember for sure I follow about 30 racing series...

Originally Posted by jdull99:
& what happened at Macon last year? I

RB complained that there were cars with lead bolted on ahead of the front axle.

It wasn't a grey area if you could read the rules, but chassis builders put places to mount weight there.

USAC chose not to take any action then and changed the rule making it legal prior to the start of this season.

Everyone's over it except Yeleyfan.

The morals of the story? USAC has favorites(no kidding), and that it wouldn't hurt RB to eat a salad once in a while so he has more weight placement options.

Or you could say it was an outdated rule and as long as the lead is mounted safely a non-issue.

I would say that USAC discriminates against normal-sized adult males. You'd see some changes in the finishing order if they added 50lbs. to the minimum weights in both Sprint Car and Midget. Everyone understands there are guys out there who aren't fat that can't make minimum with no bolt-on lead right? I have my own conspiracy theory about that...

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Originally Posted by kendirt:
RB complained that there were cars with lead bolted on ahead of the front axle.

It wasn't a grey area if you could read the rules, but chassis builders put places to mount weight there.

USAC chose not to take any action then and changed the rule making it legal prior to the start of this season.

Everyone's over it except Yeleyfan.

The morals of the story? USAC has favorites(no kidding), and that it wouldn't hurt RB to eat a salad once in a while so he has more weight placement options.

Or you could say it was an outdated rule and as long as the lead is mounted safely a non-issue.

I would say that USAC discriminates against normal-sized adult males. You'd see some changes in the finishing order if they added 50lbs. to the minimum weights in both Sprint Car and Midget. Everyone understands there are guys out there who aren't fat that can't make minimum with no bolt-on lead right? I have my own conspiracy theory about that...

I'm not over it either. :15::deadhorse:

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Originally Posted by racegal:
I'm not over it either. :15::deadhorse:

Me either.

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Originally Posted by kendirt:
RB complained that there were cars with lead bolted on ahead of the front axle.

It wasn't a grey area if you could read the rules, but chassis builders put places to mount weight there.

USAC chose not to take any action then and changed the rule making it legal prior to the start of this season.

Everyone's over it except Yeleyfan.

The morals of the story? USAC has favorites(no kidding), and that it wouldn't hurt RB to eat a salad once in a while so he has more weight placement options.

Or you could say it was an outdated rule and as long as the lead is mounted safely a non-issue.

I would say that USAC discriminates against normal-sized adult males. You'd see some changes in the finishing order if they added 50lbs. to the minimum weights in both Sprint Car and Midget. Everyone understands there are guys out there who aren't fat that can't make minimum with no bolt-on lead right? I have my own conspiracy theory about that...

You might want to open your eyes sir. RB is down 50lbs and still going. The morale of the story is Usac is inept at best. The handling of the situation was horrible. Usac/Spridge failed to handle it the correct way in order to help their favorites. Which is old news.

As for the dance floor question, you will have to go back for a story from Usac posted on here about the accomplishments of Kevin Miller being president. One such great asset to paying a higher purse and promoting the best on track racing, is a new dance floor at the office instead of cubicles.

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
You might want to open your eyes sir. RB is down 50lbs and still going. The morale of the story is Usac is inept at best. The handling of the situation was horrible. Usac/Spridge failed to handle it the correct way in order to help their favorites. Which is old news.

As for the dance floor question, you will have to go back for a story from Usac posted on here about the accomplishments of Kevin Miller being president. One such great asset to paying a higher purse and promoting the best on track racing, is a new dance floor at the office instead of cubicles.

Oh. I missed that one! Thanku! :31:

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
You might want to open your eyes sir. RB is down 50lbs and still going.

He wasn't when the Macon deal went down.

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Originally Posted by kendirt:
He wasn't when the Macon deal went down.

Correct he wasn’t and the rule was clear about what wasn’t legal. Spridge blew it as usual and continued his inept leadership. During the offseason they made a change/clarification to the rule and Robert went in a diet. Also his weight should have nothing to do with the rule book.

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
Correct he wasn’t and the rule was clear about what wasn’t legal. Spridge blew it as usual and continued his inept leadership. During the offseason they made a change/clarification to the rule.

Other than calling out Spridge personally that's exactly what I said.

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
and Robert went in a diet. Also his weight should have nothing to do with the rule book.

Right, so Robert agreed with me.

His weight is an issue because he wouldn't have complained if he was in a position to do exactly what the lighter drivers were.

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Originally Posted by kendirt:
Right, so Robert agreed with me.

His weight is an issue because he wouldn't have complained if he was in a position to do exactly what the lighter drivers were.

Not sure how this is difficult for you. I’ll try it slow. He bitched about guys racing beyond the rules. Whether he needed to go on a diet or not. If all played by the same rules and he lost because he is heavy he would own that. This wasn’t the case because of rules infractions. I hope this clears it up for you. They all add weight to make the minimum. Now that Usac stepped up and made the rule clear and Robert has gone on a diet he can bolt weight where he wants it too. All within the rules!

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
They all add weight to make the minimum.!

You sure about that? Betcha Big Rob didn't have to bolt in any weight to make minimum.

Call him and ask or hit him up on FB. Report back.

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Let us remember that it was determined Mitchell Moles was cheating also and was allowed to keep his 'win'.

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"No titanium crankshafts, connecting rods and/or rod caps."

Hmmm, I wonder if lead weights would not be needed if unobtainium was not allowed?

Is there any logic behind 1350 lb? Or is that the consensus figure of the car owners?

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A multi champion crew chief I knew said their cars cleared weight without the driver that the rule included the driver. So not all of em are on the edge.
I don't think RB's problems are weight releated at all. He's lost the weight here and there. It's a good setup and making the right moves at the right times.. I watched Bob Kinser, Dick Gaines and Shane Cottle whoop too many asses for that to be a huge factor.

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Originally Posted by kendirt:
You sure about that? Betcha Big Rob didn't have to bolt in any weight to make minimum.

Call him and ask or hit him up on FB. Report back.

Do your own research . I’m content with mine.

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once again, The weight didn't have anything to do with the weight of the car. It had to do with where it was placed. Furthest from fulcrum point crates more leverage. Fulcrum on a sprint car is the motor plate. The further forward you put weight. The more effect it will have. They were trying to keep from wheel standing on a tight track with tall gears in the car.

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No kidding and where they put it was illegal.

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
No kidding and where they put it was illegal.

I agree but someone wants to make it about someone's weight and totally irrelevant to what the cheat was.

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I agree but someone wants to make it about someone's weight and totally irrelevant to what the cheat was.

You've never been on a teeter totter with a fat kid?