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Charles Nungester 3/28/24 10:28 AM

BC39 Info for 2024
 
https://www.speedsport.com/sprints-m...ces-2024-date/

duel 3/28/24 12:05 PM

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Thanks for the heads up. I wish they could settle on a yearly date.

GrumpyTodd 9/4/24 2:09 PM

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I can not believe that there has been no indication of a car count.

itsanonwingthing 9/4/24 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyTodd (Post 576672)
I can not believe that there has been no indication of a car count.

Registration opened August 21st, 3 weeks until the race. I'm guessing an entry list will be available as the entries are received.
https://www.usacracing.com/news/2024...ration-is-open

Entry List updated as they are received HERE

Vookie 9/4/24 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyTodd (Post 576672)
I can not believe that there has been no indication of a car count.

So far:
JJ Yeley
Kyle Jones
Kevin Newton
Drake Edwards
Cody Beard
Adam Bolyard

Vookie 9/5/24 7:54 PM

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https://www.usacracing.com/news/firs...ave-been-filed

GrumpyTodd 9/9/24 2:17 PM

Seemed like this time last year it was over 40 cars. Only 15 as of Friday is a touch concerning.

Jonr 9/9/24 2:58 PM

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Considering that there are no KKM cars or Chad Boat cars entered yet, I think it is too early to get concerned. I will bet you an adult beverage that the car count will be 40+

flagboy55 9/9/24 8:10 PM

22 as of today

flagboy55 9/10/24 9:47 PM

29 as of today and some obvious teams not on the list

flagboy55 9/12/24 11:06 AM

31 as of yesterday with more coming

GrumpyTodd 9/12/24 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonr (Post 576755)
Considering that there are no KKM cars or Chad Boat cars entered yet, I think it is too early to get concerned. I will bet you an adult beverage that the car count will be 40+


40+ is WAY too low for this type of event. There needs to be twice that. Last year was 71 cars and that was still not enough. USAC is just not doing a very good job with the event. Not nearly enough promotion and then they need to start looking at payouts for all series. They are becoming a farm league for the winged series. I think USAC needs a complete overhaul of people running it. Someone with more vision. Just my $.02.

Sandy Lowe 9/12/24 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyTodd (Post 576794)
40+ is WAY too low for this type of event. There needs to be twice that. Last year was 71 cars and that was still not enough. USAC is just not doing a very good job with the event. Not nearly enough promotion and then they need to start looking at payouts for all series. They are becoming a farm league for the winged series. I think USAC needs a complete overhaul of people running it. Someone with more vision. Just my $.02.

Have you looked at the purse for this event? The payout for the top 5 in Saturday's feature is $20,039, $10,000, $7,500, $5,000 & $3,000. It pays $1,000 to start the feature with a total feature payout of $68,789 (24 cars).

20 cars start the last chance race with the top 8 transferring. 9th place (first non-transfer) pays $600 and it tapers down to $350 for 20th. The total payout for this race is $5,175.

The total purse for Saturday night with a feature, last chance race, 2 semi features, 2 C mains, & 2 D mains is $93,414 (120 cars). And they pay $100 to all non-starters in attendance.

Thursday and Friday's feature pays $5,000 to win, and $300 to start — a total payout of $19,500 for 24 cars each night.

GrumpyTodd 9/12/24 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe (Post 576796)
Have you looked at the purse for this event? The payout for the top 5 in Saturday's feature is $20,039, $10,000, $7,500, $5,000 & $3,000. It pays $1,000 to start the feature with a total feature payout of $68,789 (24 cars).

20 cars start the last chance race with the top 8 transferring. 9th place (first non-transfer) pays $600 and it tapers down to $350 for 20th. The total payout for this race is $5,175.

The total purse for Saturday night with a feature, last chance race, 2 semi features, 2 C mains, & 2 D mains is $93,414 (120 cars). And they pay $100 to all non-starters in attendance.

Thursday and Friday's feature pays $5,000 to win, and $300 to start — a total payout of $19,500 for 24 cars each night.

Sandy, I have been to every BC39. Yes I know what the payout is. I am not talking about just this race. It’s the USAC events as a whole. Have you seen the payouts for High Limit events? Puts the USAC purses to shame. It’s why non wing drivers are flocking to winged series. But thanks anyway for the schooling.

DJlives 9/13/24 11:49 AM

And where do you think that purse for High Limit comes from?

Jonr 9/13/24 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyTodd (Post 576794)
40+ is WAY too low for this type of event. There needs to be twice that. Last year was 71 cars and that was still not enough……….

Good grief…… you are now complaining about 71 cars at an event. Please go grind your axe somewhere else. We are going to enjoy this event.

GrumpyTodd 9/13/24 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonr (Post 576805)
Good grief…… you are now complaining about 71 cars at an event. Please go grind your axe somewhere else. We are going to enjoy this event.

Tell the people that go to the Chili Bowl they’re only gonna get 71 cars. You think I am grinding gears. They would burn the place down. Now if you’re okay with mediocre turn out, fine. Just go to Circle City Speedway and stay there. It’s just stupid to be okay with mediocre PortaJonr

deadhorse30 9/13/24 1:08 PM

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How many open wheel events get more than 70 cars? 4 maybe 5. Winged racing gets way more support from fans, hence the larger purses. They also have higher ticket costs. This event has the second largest Midget car count of the year, I'm not sure that's something to complain about. With that being said I do agree USAC has some work to do. They seem to have accepted the status quo.

kendirt 9/13/24 1:43 PM

Leave it to someone on IOW to dump on a $20,000 to win Midget race.

Vookie 9/13/24 1:46 PM

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https://www.speedsport.com/sprints-m...debut-at-bc39/

flagboy55 9/13/24 2:07 PM

I wish the Chili bowl only had 70 cars. There’s 250 that don’t matter. But that’s not the point here. I only have 2 criticisms for this race and that it’s scheduled the week after 4 crowns and correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t they split field last year for the opening 2 nights? That’s not good because it dilutes the competition and the racing is more strung out. That’s just my opinion on the BC39. When are people going to understand that wingless racing is not as popular as wing racing therefore it’s not going to pay the same.

Charles Nungester 9/13/24 3:30 PM

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Sprints to run with BC39.
https://www.floracing.com/articles/1...m00000sj85paac

Personally, I hate split field racing I want Seavey racing Bacon and Grant and KTJ in every feature. Not two of em in one and two in the other.

That and sometimes you can only make one or two nights of a three night program.

yeleyfan76 9/13/24 5:17 PM

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Kind of thinking you need to have a three nite program to justify the logistics of having this event at the speedway. It’s a one and done for the season. It’s an event, if it’s a premiere event personally then you make sacrifices to attend the whole thing. The fact that it doesn’t have a repetitive date might be hurting itself. It may have lost its luster as well. I’d think that’s the case if they are trying sprint cars one nite.

flagboy55 9/14/24 12:11 PM

You might be right about losing a little shine. In my mind there’s a couple reasons for why that might be happening. I think you’re correct on the date uncertainty. Second is that I’m sure the Speedway logistics create a whole set of unique circumstances. There’s some things they could do to improve the event as far as parking and such that would greatly benefit the experience, but I’m sure, whether warranted or not Speedway rules dictate the current process. Also some of you might have to correct me on this, but we had Larson, Bowman, I think Connor Daly, maybe CBell, and others throwing their support and popularity in promotion of the event. Somehow I don’t see that, and if some people don’t want to admit it, there’s a thing called the Larson effect, it’s real. As far as Sprint Cars there, I really don’t want to see it. It looks to me, and I stand ready to accept correction if I’m wrong, it’s probably tighter than Kutztown, and in my opinion that’s really close to too small. I wish they would go back to mid summer date, then we would go back. Just some thoughts from my perspective. But they will have enough cars for a good show and we’ll be tuned in in the garage wishing we were there

badcoupe 9/14/24 12:18 PM

My absolute favorite race of the race of the year. I think it’s a bit tight for the sprint cars, it’s smaller than circle city and that’s getting small to me for sprints.

racefan20 9/14/24 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55 (Post 576829)
You might be right about losing a little shine. In my mind there’s a couple reasons for why that might be happening. I think you’re correct on the date uncertainty. Second is that I’m sure the Speedway logistics create a whole set of unique circumstances. There’s some things they could do to improve the event as far as parking and such that would greatly benefit the experience, but I’m sure, whether warranted or not Speedway rules dictate the current process. Also some of you might have to correct me on this, but we had Larson, Bowman, I think Connor Daly, maybe CBell, and others throwing their support and popularity in promotion of the event. Somehow I don’t see that, and if some people don’t want to admit it, there’s a thing called the Larson effect, it’s real. As far as Sprint Cars there, I really don’t want to see it. It looks to me, and I stand ready to accept correction if I’m wrong, it’s probably tighter than Kutztown, and in my opinion that’s really close to too small. I wish they would go back to mid summer date, then we would go back. Just some thoughts from my perspective. But they will have enough cars for a good show and we’ll be tuned in in the garage wishing we were there

One thing I agree about is the parking. You have to pay to park in the north 40 and pay even more if you want to be within walking distance to your car. Thats just greed, can you think of another dirt track in this area that charges for parking?

Grocery Guy 9/15/24 9:39 AM

Totally agree on the parking price and charge. Just another money grab. I remember the first year they had the IMS turn 4 gate open and you could park on the street and walk in. That didn't last long.

Pancho Stapp 9/15/24 4:24 PM

The speedway seems to frown on tailgating and that’s sucks. My group likes to show up and run a smoker or grill but not opening gates until 3:30/4 kinda puts a kibosh to that. Not enough time to eat and drink. We just stop somewhere eat and go own, the food trucks are salty$$$ and beers about $9. You can bring yours in but not in a cooler.

BrentTFunk 9/15/24 9:03 PM

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I was just talking at Haubstadt about this race. I think it is a bargain. I bought 2 tickets and 1 parking pass for all 3 nights. Me and my buddy split the cost. It works out to $85 each for 3 nights, and the final night pays $20,000 to win.

duel 9/15/24 11:22 PM

Plenty of green grass to park in turn 3 by track. $25 a night inside the speedway. I would think I would be much closer to the track and not have to walk half a mile or take a random shuttle.

Vookie 9/18/24 12:21 PM

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Car count is over 50.
https://www.usacracing.com/news/2024...y-list-updates


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