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Charles Nungester 8/13/23 12:17 PM

Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
I seen a few sitting down in turn one scattered very sparsly and some sitting on the berms outside the course. But looked dead..

Am I missing something?

brown11b 8/13/23 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 567700)
I seen a few sitting down in turn one scattered very sparsly and some sitting on the berms outside the course. But looked dead..

Am I missing something?

Yes, there were quite a lot of people.

Penske said attendance was up 25% from last year

BrentTFunk 8/13/23 12:59 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Charles you have to take into account how big a place is, and how many it can actually seat. I really wanted to go,but had some things I had to do. Tickets were pretty reasonable too.

hoosier race fan 8/13/23 2:40 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
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Originally Posted by brown11b (Post 567704)
Yes, there were quite a lot of people.

Penske said attendance was up 25% from last year

Probably better than their attendance for the May race on the road course. An increase is good news, but I wonder if the race will continue when NASCAR goes back to racing on the oval (as they should) next year.

Personally, I’d like to see the 2nd race on the road course (if they continue to have 2) move to late September and become the IndyCar finale. I know they just announced Nashville becoming the finale, but I think it would be appropriate to have it at the home of INDYcars.

4 Crown at Eldora on 9/20 and 9/21, BC 39 on 9/25-9/28, and IndyCar Finale on 9/29.

Charles Nungester 8/13/23 2:51 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Lot more there today for the Nascar. Cup race

Blackduce 8/13/23 4:35 PM

I think so many things do not help. Economy, high seat prices, high gas prices, direction of the USA, no concerts, so many local races and variety races this weekend, And a large depression thoughts food, schooling. and money payments. Also the lack of education and family struction of our youth.
Lynn

Grocery Guy 8/13/23 7:16 PM

Was there both days. $40 admission each day was a great value, especially Saturday. I was amazed how many people were sitting on the grassy mounds along the road course. First time I tried those seating areas and they were great, close-up vantage points. Very entertaining two days of racing. IRP also had a great crowd on Fri night for the NASCAR truck and ARCA races.

BL Duce,

I'm trying to understand your comments. I'll keep thinking on them.

Direction of the USA, high seat prices (only $40 each day), large depression thoughts food, schooling, lack of education, family struction of our youth. ???

sp6967 8/13/23 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grocery Guy (Post 567719)
Was there both days. $40 admission each day was a great value, especially Saturday. I was amazed how many people were sitting on the grassy mounds along the road course. First time I tried those seating areas and they were great, close-up vantage points. Very entertaining two days of racing. IRP also had a great crowd on Fri night for the NASCAR truck and ARCA races.

BL Duce,

I'm trying to understand your comments. I'll keep thinking on them.

Direction of the USA, high seat prices (only $40 each day), large depression thoughts food, schooling, lack of education, family struction of our youth. ???

40 bucks is a lot to some and not to others. Inflation has sky rocketed on food prices and everything else. teaching kids they can be any sex they want to be, the educational system is more than broken.

BrentTFunk 8/13/23 8:12 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
How does everything become p#@@al with some people. Can't we even talk about racing without it? That to me is the biggest problem. Thought we were talking about yesterday's Indy car race.

jdull99 8/14/23 1:18 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
I think its ok either way (Brickyard on the road coarse or the oval), but for the Indycar/nascar double part of it; I say on Sat, keep the IndyCars and xfinity cars on the road coarse; and if they wana run the Cup race on the oval; do it all (Practice & Q; and race) Sunday.

767 8/14/23 7:48 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
I believe this is the final year for the Indy car / Nascar double. I think the Milwaukee race will take its place. maybe not the same weekend. Also did anyone else notice drivers talking about the oval this week?

Hubie48 8/14/23 11:19 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
I live in Speedway and worked Saturday. Forgot this was the race weekend and drove down Main Street at 11am on my way to home to eat. Traffic was about as bad as rush hour on the roundabout.

unreal

a non event

benvar 8/14/23 11:39 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
I was there and I thought it was pretty crowed - especially the viewing mounts

jdull99 8/14/23 12:34 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
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Originally Posted by Hubie48 (Post 567741)
I live in Speedway and worked Saturday. Forgot this was the race weekend and drove down Main Street at 11am on my way to home to eat. Traffic was about as bad as rush hour on the roundabout.

unreal

a non event

& how did that compare to the last few years on the oval? I went in 2017 (Kahne's win!); and I actly LIKED how easy it was to get in and out; but ya, for the health of the sport; it would be ideal if at least 80,000 people were there. Races aren't getting over 100,000 really anywhere anymore (except three times that for the INdy 500); so even if 80,000-100,000 made it for the Brickyard, it only looks so good...

Rpracing1 8/14/23 12:48 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubie48 (Post 567741)
I live in Speedway and worked Saturday. Forgot this was the race weekend and drove down Main Street at 11am on my way to home to eat. Traffic was about as bad as rush hour on the roundabout.

unreal

a non event

Quote:

Originally Posted by benvar (Post 567742)
I was there and I thought it was pretty crowed - especially the viewing mounts

I think I would put more stock in the opinion of the guy that was there verses the guy that just drove by the event. JMO.

opnwhlmnd 8/14/23 1:50 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackduce (Post 567718)
I think so many things do not help. Economy, high seat prices, high gas prices, direction of the USA, no concerts, so many local races and variety races this weekend, And a large depression thoughts food, schooling. and money payments. Also the lack of education and family struction of our youth.
Lynn

Some posts just make you go hhhmmmm. :17:

jdull99 8/14/23 7:36 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
MAYBE a stretch; but sounds like there is a push in the schools to educate students to fear and hate fuel powered cars...so maybe Lynn is on to something? Its hard to sell tickets to people who do not like or believe in fuel powered cars...

I think that is one of the reasons F1 (popular among millennials - which I know are already an aging generation...I'm almost one of them); runs entire races without fuel stops...they say it was for safety but I think they were maybe trying to hide that fact...

hoosier race fan 8/14/23 11:33 PM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdull99 (Post 567754)
MAYBE a stretch; but sounds like there is a push in the schools to educate students to fear and hate fuel powered cars...so maybe Lynn is on to something? Its hard to sell tickets to people who do not like or believe in fuel powered cars...

I think that is one of the reasons F1 (popular among millennials - which I know are already an aging generation...I'm almost one of them); runs entire races without fuel stops...they say it was for safety but I think they were maybe trying to hide that fact...

It is definitely a stretch to say that about the school where I work. We have an automotive program that has students from 5 different schools. The teacher is excellent and some students in the program have raced during and after high school. Not all of the students are interested in competitive motorsports, but the ones that are tend to like what they are familiar with. Newer, smaller cars with 4 cylinder engines and lots of imports. Compacts, drifting, and some drag racing. Fuel sources and fuel consumption are things they learn about, but it’s definitely not a fear or hatred of fuel powered cars. The program takes students to UNOH every year and they have a variety of programs including dirt and pavement oval racing. Every generation tends to be critical of the generations behind them, but not all is lost with young people today. I’ve worked in 5 different schools, and I’ve connected with students who are race fans at every single one of them. Far too many people preaching doom and gloom because it fits their narrative. The interest in cars and motor sports is still there, it just looks different than how it was for many of us in the past.

ronmil 8/15/23 1:11 AM

I’m playing back the IndyCar race now and it looks like a pretty good crowd. Good racing too.

Hubie48 8/15/23 4:14 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
to answer the question how did it compare with the last few oval races

steady decline. Plus the infrastructure on how they flow traffic has something to do with it.

jdull99 8/15/23 4:32 AM

Re: Indycars were at IMS yesterday and nobody noticed
 
Cup cars tire test on the oval today

& I also heard the Milwaukee Mile rumor for the Indycar race (replacing this one). But I still like the tie-in with the NASCAR weekend...(I'd think the Indycar schedule could fit in the Milwaukee race still...)

I don't know; I'd be fine with Cup on the road coarse Saturday AND Sunday...that would be kinda neat...(same place, two different "tracks" in one weekend...)

captrat 8/15/23 1:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoosier race fan (Post 567758)
It is definitely a stretch to say that about the school where I work. We have an automotive program that has students from 5 different schools. The teacher is excellent and some students in the program have raced during and after high school. Not all of the students are interested in competitive motorsports, but the ones that are tend to like what they are familiar with. Newer, smaller cars with 4 cylinder engines and lots of imports. Compacts, drifting, and some drag racing. Fuel sources and fuel consumption are things they learn about, but it’s definitely not a fear or hatred of fuel powered cars. The program takes students to UNOH every year and they have a variety of programs including dirt and pavement oval racing. Every generation tends to be critical of the generations behind them, but not all is lost with young people today. I’ve worked in 5 different schools, and I’ve connected with students who are race fans at every single one of them. Far too many people preaching doom and gloom because it fits their narrative. The interest in cars and motor sports is still there, it just looks different than how it was for many of us in the past.

As a 30 year veteran of teaching and administering in public education thank you for mirroring my thoughts.


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