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The Old Coyote 7/31/23 11:59 AM

Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
A Sprint Car does not have a wing. A Sprint Car with a wing is a Winged Sprint Car.

To call a Sprint Car a Non-Winged Sprint Car is the same duplicative and redundant word as irregardless. Check your dictionary, irregardless is not a word. Even when you type it in here on IOW, you get red squiggles under it!

If you feel further differentiation is necessary, you might consider Traditional Sprint Car versus Winged Sprint Car.

I like Winged Sprint Cars just as much as Sprint Cars. I just believe they should be properly referred to.

Vookie 7/31/23 12:30 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
The worst was a writer who called them "unwinged sprint cars".

John P Huss 7/31/23 12:41 PM

Real Sprint Cars Have No Wings
Period!
Best Regards,
John

dsc1600 7/31/23 1:06 PM

The most recognizable part of a sprint car is the wing. Calling it a winged sprint car is kind of redundant.

opnwhlmnd 7/31/23 1:12 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
Two things happened in 1978 that changed the world of sprint car racing and the most popular form of it.

1. USAC had a devastating plane crash that took the lives of many top leaders and officials.
2. Ted Johnson started the World of Outlaws and the "Run Whaca Brung".

USAC and traditional, non-wing, whatever you want to call it, has never recovered from the plane crash.

The World of Outlaws kept growing and because of that winged sprint cars are by far the most popular form of sprint car racing. They just had a weekend that paid out over 2 million dollars for the four days and also broke an attendance record for Eldora Speedway.

Before 1978 we could call them sprint cars and winged sprint cars. Today they are sprint cars and non-wing sprints cars.

The Old Coyote 7/31/23 1:47 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
There is an analogy in the freight car business.

Until the introduction of roller bearings, I believe in the late 30's or early 40's, freight car axles were supported by bronze journal bearings.

The roller bearing manufacturers were successful in referring to their competition as a friction bearing and the name stuck. Over time it became bearings and friction bearings.

I believe the same thing has happened here.

Rpracing1 7/31/23 2:04 PM

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OnTheHammer 7/31/23 4:13 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 

Originally Posted by The Old Coyote:
A Sprint Car does not have a wing. A Sprint Car with a wing is a Winged Sprint Car.

To call a Sprint Car a Non-Winged Sprint Car is the same duplicative and redundant word as irregardless. Check your dictionary, irregardless is not a word. Even when you type it in here on IOW, you get red squiggles under it!

If you feel further differentiation is necessary, you might consider Traditional Sprint Car versus Winged Sprint Car.

I like Winged Sprint Cars just as much as Sprint Cars. I just believe they should be properly referred to.


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jdull99 7/31/23 6:31 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
"Back in the day" weren't they called like B cars and maybe the "Indy-type" cars were A-cars or smthn? I know they (the Indy type cars) were called Big Cars. Possibly until there was a split of the Indy 500 type cars to the "half-mile" cars? I swear I read this in maybe the Bettenhausen book (it was like a history of racing); but I don't have the book anymore.

hoosier race fan 7/31/23 7:48 PM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 

Originally Posted by The Old Coyote:
A Sprint Car does not have a wing. A Sprint Car with a wing is a Winged Sprint Car.

To call a Sprint Car a Non-Winged Sprint Car is the same duplicative and redundant word as irregardless. Check your dictionary, irregardless is not a word. Even when you type it in here on IOW, you get red squiggles under it!

If you feel further differentiation is necessary, you might consider Traditional Sprint Car versus Winged Sprint Car.

I like Winged Sprint Cars just as much as Sprint Cars. I just believe they should be properly referred to.

Take a look at the schedules for the tracks right here in Indiana that run them regularly. Indiana is the stronghold of a niche fan base, and even here, the tracks generally refer to them as non-wing sprint cars. I’m not upset by the pronoun you choose.

bighd0522 7/31/23 8:10 PM

Both are pretty bad a$$!!

RACrappieman 7/31/23 8:33 PM

Non-Wingless Sprint Cars??

flagboy55 7/31/23 9:45 PM

Originally Posted by opnwhlmnd:
Two things happened in 1978 that changed the world of sprint car racing and the most popular form of it.

1. USAC had a devastating plane crash that took the lives of many top leaders and officials.
2. Ted Johnson started the World of Outlaws and the "Run Whaca Brung".

USAC and traditional, non-wing, whatever you want to call it, has never recovered from the plane crash.

The World of Outlaws kept growing and because of that winged sprint cars are by far the most popular form of sprint car racing. They just had a weekend that paid out over 2 million dollars for the four days and also broke an attendance record for Eldora Speedway.

Before 1978 we could call them sprint cars and winged sprint cars. Today they are sprint cars and non-wing sprints cars.

The outlaws also dealt a blow to real sprint car racing when they decided to go wing only. As the series was originally constructed, it was promoters choice. I’m not going to get into reasons why, but if they would’ve kept both options, both genres would have also grown with the series. Also not to nitpick, but the outlaws did not payout 2 million for the weekend, the first two nights were not sanctioned by WOO, which explains their arrogant obliviousness to the first two nights

jdull99 8/1/23 2:27 AM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 

Originally Posted by jdull99:
"Back in the day" weren't they called like B cars and maybe the "Indy-type" cars were A-cars or smthn? I know they (the Indy type cars) were called Big Cars. Possibly until there was a split of the Indy 500 type cars to the "half-mile" cars? I swear I read this in maybe the Bettenhausen book (it was like a history of racing); but I don't have the book anymore.

Something like that...Call them "Big Car Short Track cars"!

file:///C:/Users/jdull.CBCRANE/Downloads/a-brief-history-of-sprint-carspdf.pdf

The Old Coyote 8/1/23 8:00 AM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
"...file:///C:/Users/jdull.CBCRANE/Downloads/a-brief-history-of-sprint-carspdf.pdf..."

I bet they never referred to them as Non-Wing Big Cars or Non-Wing Short Track Cars:D:D:D

sp6967 8/1/23 9:32 AM

Sprint cars don't have roll cages. They are both more like open wheeled modifies now.

cmakin 8/1/23 10:45 AM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
I was first exposed to dirt track racing in the 70s in Northern California. Sprint cars didn't have wings, supermodifieds did. Now, an sprint car could put on a wing and race with the supers (and many did).

Blackduce 8/1/23 2:05 PM

Sprinter or Sprinters
Lynn

TQ29m 8/1/23 2:24 PM

A wing on a Sprint car, is like a diaper on a 14 year old!
Lol

Stevensville Mike 8/2/23 9:30 AM

Re: Proper Name Of A Sprint Car
 
Not to throw fuel on the fire, but here is a bucket of petrol:

https://i.postimg.cc/vZw1J4xR/Rear.jpg

How about a rear-engine sprint car?

https://www.jakessite.com/07/re/lost.html

TQ29m 8/2/23 10:47 AM

We had one for a while, driver named Yeadon bought a home built Chev Indy car, and ran it on the dirt, Chuck Buzak built it from some of Mickie Thompson parts and pieces, and sponsored in part by a local bank, a friend of mine and I bought what was left, and just had a lot of parts, all gone now, as a dirt car, it did well, Orville made a rr wheel for it that allowed him to run 2 snow tires on that side which helped it a bunch.
Bob


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