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Beer within said coolers has not been addressed yet.

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Cant you guys live without drinking beer for a few hours to see a race? At Terre Haute you can even go out to your cars and have one during the mods or during track prep. I'm having a hard time seeing why this always seems to come up and is made a big deal.

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I frequent a few Super Late Model facilities in Kentucky, Tennessee and Georgia where coolers and beverages are not allowed inside. So, what do you do, you go to your car or truck, have a few and go back inside. And guess what????...The stands are PACKED

Here’s a great idea…. They will sell beer so buy it from them just like one does at a bunch of other tracks!! Support the track so they can make a profit!!

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Cant you guys live without drinking beer for a few hours to see a race? At Terre Haute you can even go out to your cars and have one during the mods or during track prep. I'm having a hard time seeing why this always seems to come up and is made a big deal.

Same as last year. People were complaining about not being able to bring in a cooler with water. I am like really?

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I am just asking a question that no one seems to be able to answer.

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Originally Posted by Stevensville Mike:
I am just asking a question that no one seems to be able to answer.

Is it going to make any difference wether you are going to come or not? Do you go to Kokomo? You cant bring in ANYTHING there so why is it a big deal here.

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Is it going to make any difference wether you are going to come or not? Do you go to Kokomo? You cant bring in ANYTHING there so why is it a big deal here.

That's not the point, Moe. The point is the question.

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Originally Posted by Stevensville Mike:
That's not the point, Moe. The point is the question.

Yes it is the point Mike, if being able to drink your beer inside the track wasnt such a big deal you wouldnt be continually asking the question. And instead of asking a bunch of people on this board who dont know anymore than you do about it why dont you try to contact the track or the promoter or the fairboard who actually might have an answer for you. The alternative might be that we have no races there, is that what you want?

I am at devil’s bowl should I ask Bill Rose tomorrow? Just to clear up this argument.

FYI I have no idea what devil’s bowl speedway has for a beer policy, I am going to enjoy race🏁🍺

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Yes it is the point Mike, if being able to drink your beer inside the track wasnt such a big deal you wouldnt be continually asking the question. And instead of asking a bunch of people on this board who dont know anymore than you do about it why dont you try to contact the track or the promoter or the fairboard who actually might have an answer for you. The alternative might be that we have no races there, is that what you want?

John, I have humored you many times on this forum. Mainly because of your Moe Howard avatar. But you have read WAY more into the thread topic. After re-reading the posts in this thread, I cannot see where I was complaining about it either way. You are off in a tangent, my friend.

Terre Haute infield coolers - That is the thread. Please stick to it.

I simply asked a question about bringing in beer. Whether I wish to go to a track that allows me to bring in beer, or not, is my business. Whether I wish to drive 3.5 hours to Terre Haute in April to watch a race with or without beer is not your business. I am just trying to understand a post on facebook that tells the fans they can bring in coolers, but no mention of beer.

Whether or not THAT can stay afloat with what their policies are is their business. Heavy emphasis on "business". I am just trying to get an answer: Can you bring beer into the infield in your cooler?

I am saddened that you have approached me on this forum as such. I have always liked and respected yours, and most others' posts, for we are all in this together. However, I currently see it as you wish to put me on the defense. Well, my question is still there, John: Can I bring in beer? I do not care WHO answers the question. THAT (no pun intended) is the question.

The defense rests.

Your Honor, counsel reserves the right to recall this witness. We really think he is a good fan.

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Originally Posted by PIT CART:
I am at devil’s bowl should I ask Bill Rose tomorrow? Just to clear up this argument.

FYI I have no idea what devil’s bowl speedway has for a beer policy, I am going to enjoy race🏁🍺

Would you please so we dont have to see posts about this anymore. BTW for those of you that are diabetic, so am I and ive had issues at tracks before. I went out to my car and took care of the issue with the supplies I brought with me(whether it was low or high blood sugar). That being said I would never go to a track that didnt allow you to go to your car after going in. Guess I'll never go to Perris.

Coolers should not be allowed in any race track. Buy your concessions from the promoters and help keep them in business.

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Bringing alcohol into a race track is an enormous debate. i have seen weekly race tracks collapse because they insisted on "changing" their cooler policy's. a track owner needs to look at the fans coming through the gate closely and determine if they can afford to tell people as they walk up with a cooler to turn around and drive home, because it will happen.

when i was in my early 20's it was 1,000,000% necessary and required. we would not consider going to a race track that didn't allow us to bring in a cooler the size of a coffin. Now that Ive passed my 50th birthday i don't even look or care.

Terre Haute is ultimately run by a committee. fair boards normally don't listen to the customer well and will go out of they're way to make it hard on a poor fan to come in sit down and crack one that you didn't buy from them :32:

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
Coolers should not be allowed in any race track. Buy your concessions from the promoters and help keep them in business.

I can tell you right now, That I will be attending less if that's the case. Like I said in other post, You need to charge 30-40 to get in and cover cost. DO so. Paying 25 to get in and getting five and ten'd all night is not my style.

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Terre Haute has plenty of room to allow a 6 pack size cooler in the stands. Even during ISW there’s still enough room to spread out a little. Now I’ve said before that I just feel for the elderly or handicapped that can’t get up and down all the time to get whatever they need, plus I see a lot that keep cold towels or rags in their coolers for their necks and heads in the summer time to keep cool. It’s convenient for me, but not a necessity or deal breaker. As long as my foot keeps healing up after surgery I hope to get my butt to THAT.

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Maybe it's just my wrong assumption but why do these endless cooler/no cooler, alcohol/no alcohol, etc discussions :20: always have the strongest opinions from the ones who seem to attend the least amount of races?

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I'm just glad Billy saved Terre Haute for now. Whatever his rules are I'll follow them and support his shows. See how easy that was?

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Originally Posted by Chief Wahoo:
Terre Haute has plenty of room to allow a 6 pack size cooler in the stands. Even during ISW there’s still enough room to spread out a little. Now I’ve said before that I just feel for the elderly or handicapped that can’t get up and down all the time to get whatever they need, plus I see a lot that keep cold towels or rags in their coolers for their necks and heads in the summer time to keep cool. It’s convenient for me, but not a necessity or deal breaker. As long as my foot keeps healing up after surgery I hope to get my butt to THAT.

Well said, It's not easy when your handicap The no beer, Whatever. But the no coolers is not cool.

My wife allows me to drink beer at home, always has, if I choose, now for over 60yrs, I do on occasion like to have a cooler along, but it isn't a deal breaker either, I don't go that much anymore anyway, but that might change if I get my cataract surgery next week, and it’s as good as my wife's was, I might be going again, that would be awesome!

Originally Posted by racefan20:
Cant you guys live without drinking beer for a few hours to see a race? At Terre Haute you can even go out to your cars and have one during the mods or during track prep. I'm having a hard time seeing why this always seems to come up and is made a big deal.

Probably about as long as someone spitting or lighting up a smoke.

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I would just like to say that John and I have chatted off-line here and all air has been cleared. A little poke here and a little jab there can lead to a big IOW dust up. Just as I and flagboy55 had a few years back. I now hold him in the highest of friendships after we noted and discussed our differences - which actually were not very many. :)

We are all in this together and at times we all see it from different points of view. But we are all seeing the same thing. I think Bob Dylan sang about something like that in "Tangled up in Blue"?

Anyways, John/Moe's passion for motorsports and my passion for sarcasm met head on and luckily no one was hurt in the collision. I have apologized to him and he vice versa.

Nonetheless, electronic handshake was made and we are both good. Please do not hold anything against him for his passionate comments and if I might ask, please do not hold any against me.

Although I will once again throw this flaming bomb out there: Can one bring in beer?

See, my original question, as amplified by my bud Rich a few posts ago, is THAT trying to schmooze the beer drinking fans by getting them to come to the track without telling them that beer cannot be brought in? Kind of like a shell game. Let's play to the masses until it is show time and then tell them "No".

But I will tell you one thing. Up here across the state line, pretty much every track in Michigan allows carry in beer. Always has. Ironic that as Indiana is going hard right conservative and Michigan is now rolling liberally left that this beer policy is how it is. Hartford and the late Jim Borland (RIP) tried stopping the beer carry in about ten years ago and the place damn near imploded. The Dibbles who own it now restored that policy and the place has a huge crowd weekly. Amazing what a little cooler/beer thing can do to boost attendance.

Mooch and I-96 tried that same crap, too, and well..... look where he left that mess to be untangled by whoever is trying to salvage that place now.

I have to agree with Charles here - Don't chip me. Ask me for more to come in, but don't chip me.

No. I do not want any track to fail and close. But if you start chipping me, I am out. And I am your dirt track fan. If you do not need me, fine. Go find some "new" dirt track fans. They are everywhere these days. Mostly in their 50s, 60s, and 70s.

But the case with me and John is hereby closed. We have settled out of court. :)

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a weekly race track will survive longer if they don't hassle the customer and let them pass smoothly with a cooler. alcohol also makes you hungry, it'll work out. fair boards are clueless and don't care about regular people.

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Originally Posted by Rich Mersereau:
a weekly race track will survive longer if they don't hassle the customer and let them pass smoothly with a cooler. alcohol also makes you hungry, it'll work out. fair boards are clueless and don't care about regular people.

Being privately owned makes them even less concerned about the masses. No accountability.

Always love when my friend from Stevensville shows up to the conversation. We all get smarter. And like he said, this is just a basic rules clarification. It’s two weeks away. Make a call. If you don’t drink, fine, why are you concerned? But those of us that do would like to know so we can prepare accordingly. Mike, should we get legal counsel to continue this thread?

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
Mike, should we get legal counsel to continue this thread?

No need for it. The fees are not worth it. It is easier to settle it over a beer.....

....or a pop.

Out of a fridge, or a cooler.

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Well I think they still do it at Ball parks, I remember em doing it at Eldora. They used to have vendors who went around the stands selling Beer, Pop, Popcorn and peanuts.

BTW, MC/Rider is my legal council

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Salem is the only track I can think of that relied upon a healthy infield crowd to disallow coolers and beer. Didn't seem to work out very well for them. Shortly after we lost the James/O'Connor. Just saying infields are different.

Can I bring a grill into the grandstand?

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Originally Posted by Vookie:
Can I bring a grill into the grandstand?

Just the one you talk through

If I decide to attend the USAC Silver Crown race in a couple of weeks, does THAT have valet parking?

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Is it going to make any difference wether you are going to come or not? Do you go to Kokomo? You cant bring in ANYTHING there so why is it a big deal here.

Guy asked a simple question and people turn it into something else. This cooler issue should of been one of the first things the new promoter addressed since it was a big issue last year. Not be vague and just say coolers are allowed in infield. If addressed correctly the question wouldn't need to be asked.

Originally Posted by Vookie:
Can I bring a grill into the grandstand?

Yes, bigger the better, and I must taste test all smoking before being approved.

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Originally Posted by Vookie:
If I decide to attend the USAC Silver Crown race in a couple of weeks, does THAT have valet parking?

VAL at the gate says she will LET you park anywhere.

In my opinion there is no reason a racetrack should ever charge more than $1.00 for water. It’s more of a courtesy than anything for your fans. They still are probably making .75 cents on every bottle. Fair for everyone. When I go to a track and see $3.00 for a water I just shake my head and say to myself the really don’t want people to come out.

Jason, I never looked at it that way but you make a great point. I can buy a 40 pack of water at Costco for $4. They can too. Quick math says that’s 10 cents a bottle. I know they need to make money, and we need them to, but I agree with you, definitely gouging above a dollar

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Originally Posted by JDK222:
In my opinion there is no reason a racetrack should ever charge more than $1.00 for water. It’s more of a courtesy than anything for your fans. They still are probably making .75 cents on every bottle. Fair for everyone. When I go to a track and see $3.00 for a water I just shake my head and say to myself the really don’t want people to come out.

Thats how I feel & I plead guilty to sneaking H2O into Kokomo (got caught sometimes & sometimes not) I can also understand that the track wants to make $....I guess I just inherited my Depression Era parents "frugality".... ;)
What I wanna know is since the tracks don't sell herb, when are they gonna let people bring in bongs? No competition.... :23:
Its legal in 21 states now.... :8:

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Originally Posted by revjimk:
Thats how I feel & I plead guilty to sneaking H2O into Kokomo (got caught sometimes & sometimes not) I can also understand that the track wants to make $....I guess I just inherited my Depression Era parents "frugality".... ;)
What I wanna know is since the tracks don't sell herb, when are they gonna let people bring in bongs? No competition.... :23:
Its legal in 21 states now.... :8:

The $1 water sounds good but if the track has a contract with Coca Cola or Pepsi, they probably have to sell the bottler's water, and the bottlers charge the same for their branded water like "Aquafina" as they do for the soft drinks. So in this case, the track is not making a killing.

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How about a Hot Tub, I mean at these prices, Why not? Would be nice after my three and a half hour drive and before heading home

Originally Posted by RacingFan52:
The $1 water sounds good but if the track has a contract with Coca Cola or Pepsi, they probably have to sell the bottler's water, and the bottlers charge the same for their branded water like "Aquafina" as they do for the soft drinks. So in this case, the track is not making a killing.

Not sure where in my post I said they were making a “killing” off of water?????? You missed the entire point of my post. It’s called a loss leader in business. I’m guessing you don’t own a business. I will go slow for you here. You expect to lose money in one area to make it back in another. Example say I actually give it away for free as a courtesy I expect to make it back on other products or in the future I expect to sell more tickets. Holliday World does this, free sunscreen and soft drinks. Why do you think they do that? Because it’s a courtesy to their customers and they expect to make it back in other revenue streams. Your other point was that they have contracts and have to sell certain companies, ok still doesn’t mean they can’t give it away. I just called a top promoter to verify this and he confirmed there is no minimum pricing you can give it away if you want.