Just read on Twitter that USAC sprints will replace Xtreme Outlaw sprints on schedule at Volusia in February.

dirtcarnationals.com/news


Bruce Eckel

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Not Indy cars on mile dirt but Ill take it.

This is absolutely what I've been advocating for for years. Dump Bubba's and hit Volusia. Should also bring the Silver Crown cars to New Smyrna...

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I dont understand the dump Bubba part. Ive aways seen it as good racing and a great place to mingle with all my racing buds in February

Originally Posted by Therealether:
This is absolutely what I've been advocating for for years. Dump Bubba's and hit Volusia. Should also bring the Silver Crown cars to New Smyrna...

Why would you Dump Bubba? If it wasn't for them you would of not have racing for USAC in Florida. Now the drivers can race for 5 days and tracks r a hour a part.

I've just never been a fan of the track, the layout, facilities, etc.. there are much better options in the state... Such as Easy Bay, Hendry...

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Originally Posted by Therealether:
This is absolutely what I've been advocating for for years. Dump Bubba's and hit Volusia. Should also bring the Silver Crown cars to New Smyrna...

It's crap like that, that ruins this sport for everyone. Bubba is one of the few non indiana tracks that's been loyal with USAC for at least a decade now. Also Volusia compliments it and makes it a more worthwhile trip for those racing and traveling to see Non Wing Sprints in Feb.

Really don't get your DUMP BUBBA stuff. What else is going on? Not like tracks are lining up to book USAC

Does Bubba Clem support USAC by promoting this annual event, or does USAC lease out the facility and promote?
I like the unique configuration of the track. I just wish the place was more kept up and not so dumpy. The prep work is almost non-existent as seldom do they work the track like we are accustomed to here in the Midwest.

Full disclosure. It has been years since I have been to East Bay but at the time it was hardly a palace. You drove through a dump to get there and fans held up shields to prevent being sandblasted. Also full disclosure. I liked going because it was still sprint cars in February in an age where it wasn't a year round sport

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WOO HOO!!! 5 nights of USAC sprint cars in Florida in February!! Ought to be a GREAT time!

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Nothing against Bubba's, but I've always liked the racing at Volusia better. I like the actual racing at East Bay the best.

I hope USAC can buddy up with Volusia for years to come along with continued racing at Bubba's for East Bay is in their last year of racing, or real close to the last year - if memory serves me correctly. It will not be an option for sprints OR late models soon.

Volusia gives all fans free pit passes. What a Winter gift for fans for the DIRTcar Nationals! The advantage Bubba's has, however, is that is it a stone's throw from Ocala. Everything one could want while on vacation is in Ocala - vice anything that close to East Bay.

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I think you need both Bubba and Volusia to make the FL trip worthwhile. WRG likely won't be putting USAC on a prime weekend spot anytime soon, so the Volusia dates will probably only ever be mid-week shows. You need a solid weekend track and Bubba provides that.

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Originally Posted by Therealether:
I've just never been a fan of the track, the layout, facilities, etc.. there are much better options in the state... Such as Easy Bay, Hendry...

Yea, that power slide into T1 that ends on the front stretch is boring.:17:

Personally, I like BRP. It’s not a “cookie cutter” track in that its D shape is unique and has provided for some damn good racing in the 10+ yrs we’ve been going. Yes, there could certainly be some more care taken to maintain the facility, and the food is fair at best, but even with the negatives, it’s sprint cars, Florida, usually decent temperatures and some sunshine!

Volusia should be AWESOME! We have been going to the WoO sprints there for the past 9 yrs. (yes, I know it’s forbidden to say anything good about winged sprint cars here, but on some tracks they put on a good show!) and some of us have been saying how good the USAC sprint cars would be there.

Some great food within a half hour of Volusia too!!

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At least one of the Xtreme sprint shows at Volusia was very good last year.

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Originally Posted by Therealether:
I've just never been a fan of the track, the layout, facilities, etc.. there are much better options in the state... Such as Easy Bay, Hendry...

Have you ever been to Hendry? That place is a sand pit ,what are you gonna do during the day unless you like to fish you are in the middle of sugarcane fields

I don't know if it's been addressed here, but I reached out to BRP this morning and there will be no midgets this season for winter Dirt Games.

I don't know if it's been addressed here, but I reached out to BRP this morning and there will be no midgets this season for winter Dirt Games.

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Just looked at the Living Legends of Auto racing Facebook page,and their events fall on this week as well. Brent T Funk and I just happened to stumble across their group back in 2013 by accident and we went to their fundraiser for their museum while we were in the neighborhood.

I've wanted to go back and check out what else they have going on during the day in between races. Vintage race car meet and cruise, the fundraiser, "Coffee with the characters" and so on....

I'll have to give this some thought....

No press release from USAC on their website, their Facebook page or on IOW that they are sanctioning the 2 shows at Volusia. Is Volusia using the USAC name to describe the type of sprint cars running Monday and Tuesday at Volusia? Would think USAC would have already sent out a press release if they were sanctioning it.

I doubt WRG and their army of lawyers would step on USACs trademark if they weren't sanctioning it. USAC PR has been awfully quiet this off-season though, in regards to next season

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If memory serves there was a midget race at IRP this season that was a USAC event. Then after much discussion on this board after the hero that won wasn’t really legal we heard it was but wasn’t a Usac event. There were one or two guys in Usac shirts there and an announcer but it wasn’t really officially maybe a Usac event. The facts were cloudy at the time and depending who you believed at the time it was hard to know what really was the truth. The events at Volusia might or might not be a Usac event depending on whether it’s a PR deal for them or not. We will have to wait til after next wknd’s schedule release and see if Volusia appears and maybe it comes up as SE (special event). Time will tell but you better get all of the facts before complaining about it.

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
If memory serves there was a midget race at IRP this season that was a USAC event. Then after much discussion on this board after the hero that won wasn’t really legal we heard it was but wasn’t a Usac event. There were one or two guys in Usac shirts there and an announcer but it wasn’t really officially maybe a Usac event. The facts were cloudy at the time and depending who you believed at the time it was hard to know what really was the truth. The events at Volusia might or might not be a Usac event depending on whether it’s a PR deal for them or not. We will have to wait til after next wknd’s schedule release and see if Volusia appears and maybe it comes up as SE (special event). Time will tell but you better get all of the facts before complaining about it.

Complaining in my post? Simply making an observation

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
If memory serves there was a midget race at IRP this season that was a USAC event. Then after much discussion on this board after the hero that won wasn’t really legal we heard it was but wasn’t a Usac event. There were one or two guys in Usac shirts there and an announcer but it wasn’t really officially maybe a Usac event. The facts were cloudy at the time and depending who you believed at the time it was hard to know what really was the truth. The events at Volusia might or might not be a Usac event depending on whether it’s a PR deal for them or not. We will have to wait til after next wknd’s schedule release and see if Volusia appears and maybe it comes up as SE (special event). Time will tell but you better get all of the facts before complaining about it.

I was at IRP. IRP used their own officials. USAC was the sanctioning body, and did the press work, including FLO and the Announcer. Once again you go with the conspiracy theories. You do have a vivid imagination. Do you ever tire of being negative? I anticipate another good USAC schedule next week. I can't wait to see you attempt put your spin on things. Always good for a laugh.

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Originally Posted by cowboyhar69:
Complaining in my post? Simply making an observation

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That was a general statement not specific to you at all. I was testing Funk to see if he has anything better to do then follow what I post and interject his synopsis and debate. Unfortunately you took offense thinking I was singling you out. My apologies. It seems odd that Usac was linked to the Volusia dates and they haven’t had a press release like you stated. I used the IRP example of people not being clear on what is and what is not a Usac event to try and prove a point. There was a lot of confusion this summer about that stays. Any further questions on this matter should probably be directed to Funk. He appears to know more than any of us on here. Once again my apologies if you took offense personally as that was not my intention.

I would like to know what the race teams think about going to Florida to begin with. It seems to me that the expense of the trip would be better spent on getting more teams to go to Eastern Storm. I don’t see the need for it myself. And how can anyone celebrate racing at Volusia? A great big half mile, you know a “ motor eater” worse than Terre Haute.

I love Volusia, and not just because it's now my "home" track. I used to love it as a paved track when Namars raced there and the All Stars raced on the old 3/8 dirt that's now the kart track. It's big, fast, and exciting. The racings good. Track prep is good. Maybe a "motor eater", but unlike Terre Haute they race weekly at Volusia (hell,they had a 360 sprint race last night), so it can't be too rough on equipment. Plus it'll get your sponsors in front of a lot of eyeballs, and maybe we can convert some of those late model fans

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The USAC schedules as has been true for years are released at PRI.

And for the 50th time on IRP. USAC sanctions the USF2000, Indy Pro Series, SRO, and Porsche Sprint Challenge. Kirk Spridgeon isn't in race contorl, Sammy isn't on the side by side, Dave Thompson isn't standing by a NOS start can and Richie isn't staying up until 4 am hammering out Mosport results. It is for issues like credentials, licensing and insurance. That is exactly what the situation was at IRP. I don't know how many times it is required to go over this.

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
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That was a general statement not specific to you at all. I was testing Funk to see if he has anything better to do then follow what I post and interject his synopsis and debate. Unfortunately you took offense thinking I was singling you out. My apologies. It seems odd that Usac was linked to the Volusia dates and they haven’t had a press release like you stated. I used the IRP example of people not being clear on what is and what is not a Usac event to try and prove a point. There was a lot of confusion this summer about that stays. Any further questions on this matter should probably be directed to Funk. He appears to know more than any of us on here. Once again my apologies if you took offense personally as that was not my intention.

No problem, no foul.

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
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That was a general statement not specific to you at all. I was testing Funk to see if he has anything better to do then follow what I post and interject his synopsis and debate. Unfortunately you took offense thinking I was singling you out. My apologies. It seems odd that Usac was linked to the Volusia dates and they haven’t had a press release like you stated. I used the IRP example of people not being clear on what is and what is not a Usac event to try and prove a point. There was a lot of confusion this summer about that stays. Any further questions on this matter should probably be directed to Funk. He appears to know more than any of us on here. Once again my apologies if you took offense personally as that was not my intention.

I don't know more than everyone, but everyone seems to know more than you. You constantly whine about situations that seem to only be concerns to you. One example of your supreme knowledge was a couple of months ago. I believe you said non wing will have a new sheriff next year. Drivers won't be allowed to run weekly shows. USAC will be in trouble. I think you missed on that one. Seriously, you probably should get some help. I wish you the best.

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk:
I don't know more than everyone, but everyone seems to know more than you. You constantly whine about situations that seem to only be concerns to you. One example of your supreme knowledge was a couple of months ago. I believe you said non wing will have a new sheriff next year. Drivers won't be allowed to run weekly shows. USAC will be in trouble. I think you missed on that one. Seriously, you probably should get some help. I wish you the best.

For once I completely agree with you! I was wrong that there would be a new sheriff next year. Like all great hitters, sometimes when you swing for the fence you strikeout. You say I whine about things that only concern me yet an organization chose to run a series in competition with Usac. They ran there events in a form that I and others liked. If I were the only one with my opinions about Usac, then there never would have been what transpired this season. Unfortunately it appears the support Shuman needed by his company was not there and things didn’t work out. He took a swing and missed as well. Please enjoy your ability to gloat. As for your diagnosis that I need help, I’d love to see you tell anyone who chose to run with extreme and it’s leadership the same thing. I bet you couldn’t, and if you did the response might not be rosy.Face it Funk not everyone on this planet likes everything you like. That’s not a conspiracy theory. Enjoy the holiday season and I’ll practice swinging for that grand slam.

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Originally Posted by yeleyfan76:
For once I completely agree with you! I was wrong that there would be a new sheriff next year. Like all great hitters, sometimes when you swing for the fence you strikeout. You say I whine about things that only concern me yet an organization chose to run a series in competition with Usac. They ran there events in a form that I and others liked. If I were the only one with my opinions about Usac, then there never would have been what transpired this season. Unfortunately it appears the support Shuman needed by his company was not there and things didn’t work out. He took a swing and missed as well. Please enjoy your ability to gloat. As for your diagnosis that I need help, I’d love to see you tell anyone who chose to run with extreme and it’s leadership the same thing. I bet you couldn’t, and if you did the response might not be rosy.Face it Funk not everyone on this planet likes everything you like. That’s not a conspiracy theory. Enjoy the holiday season and I’ll practice swinging for that grand slam.

I will agree with you that I think Casey worked hard to try to make it work. I think he will do well with his new position at I 70. He also did a good job with WAR. I always thought he was dang good racer. The problem was the way they were doing it would never work. No promoter could afford a show like that. This part is my opinion, I never think sprint cars or midgets should be a support class for late models.
I am surprised that you said people take a swing and sometimes miss. I wish you would recognize it with the people you constantly complain about. As for speaking to teams, I have spoken to a couple. Not one of them had a bad word to say about Casey or his effort. A couple told me in September, they didn't see it coming back next year. But they pushed through this season. Everybody got paid as promised. So, there isn't anything to be critical of.
I had to point out your mistake to you, hoping that you would realize others aren't perfect either. Doesn't mean they play favorites, or are bad people.

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Not me, I'm perfect......

Fire away :)

That said, I didn't see it working, I wanted it too. To get more $$$ races for NW sprints. I'm glad Volusia is running them again USAC or not, It's good for teams to have five in a week instead of two or three in order to travel. Also USAC went the distance to prove the tire test were wrong and not just suspend and be done with it teams committed to your series. Would JG have won if Bubba have stood when several others with same date stamp on tire passed?

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I would like to know what the race teams think about going to Florida to begin with. It seems to me that the expense of the trip would be better spent on getting more teams to go to Eastern Storm. I don’t see the need for it myself. And how can anyone celebrate racing at Volusia? A great big half mile, you know a “ motor eater” worse than Terre Haute.

Thats pretty much how i think (Living in the Northeast ;) )
Except that some people like to go to Florida in the winter
I went to Volusia one year & it was TOO COLD! :7:

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Originally Posted by revjimk:
Thats pretty much how i think (Living in the Northeast ;) )
Except that some people like to go to Florida in the winter
I went to Volusia one year & it was TOO COLD! :7:

If our figures are correct, this will be our 12th year at BRP, and our 11th at Volusia. Yeah, its’s occasionally been cold (our first year at BRP it was 39° when they threw the green flag for the feature one night) but the cold is TYPICALLY short lived.

We go because even if it’s chilly, it’s typically warmer and a LOT sunnier than anywhere in the Midwest plus there’s racing, which typically won’t start for at least another month to 6 weeks in the Midwest.

We are really looking forward to this year with potentially 3 nights of WoO sprint car racing and 5 nights of USAC sprints in 6 nights, all in 9 nights.

Must have been 2013. USAC actually ran midgets on pavement at New Smyrna that February, and I swear it had to be 32 degrees by the time we left. Us Florida folk aren't built for that cold

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Originally Posted by Therealether:
Must have been 2013. USAC actually ran midgets on pavement at New Smyrna that February, and I swear it had to be 32 degrees by the time we left. Us Florida folk aren't built for that cold

I was there that night. It was really cold

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I was there too and I remember my wife laughing at me when I called home. It was actually warmer in Indiana!