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Huskermudd1 7/29/22 12:03 AM

Bacon
 
Bacon whines again

opnwhlmnd 7/29/22 12:24 AM

Re: Bacon
 
Brady using the Balloudozer nickname was a classic. LOL

azsprintfan1 7/29/22 12:24 AM

"The Balloudozer" 🤣🤣

Rich Mersereau 7/29/22 5:04 AM

Re: Bacon
 
we all know the rules. But. Everyone on the property and all of us in FLO-land saw Brady Bacon take the lead in fine fashion. why in the HELL does he have to go back to 3rd? :deadhorse:

maybe the scoring tower(s) need a common sense overhaul.

Rich M

kb78 7/29/22 7:28 AM

Re: Bacon
 
Every driver has been on the receiving as well as the losing end of the rule to go back to the last completed lap, it has been the same rule forever. Besides, there is no way to score the field midlap, unless you are only trying to worry about the leaders in which case would not be fair to someone who made a pass for 4th or 10th or 16th that lap.

Charles Nungester 7/29/22 8:32 AM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kb78 (Post 555575)
Every driver has been on the receiving as well as the losing end of the rule to go back to the last completed lap, it has been the same rule forever. Besides, there is no way to score the field midlap, unless you are only trying to worry about the leaders in which case would not be fair to someone who made a pass for 4th or 10th or 16th that lap.


Not positive, But if they come across the line for the checker. Isn't it Leader plus three across line or something for it to count. Only reason it goes back to lap 28 instead of lap 29 is the two laps to finish rule.

Or am I wrong?

Hubie48 7/29/22 8:41 AM

Re: Bacon
 
Felt bad for Brady but it has happened multiple times throughout the years. As they say, "Them's the rules." and then I laughed at his comment as it just ads spice to the show. Bacon is one of THE best.

kb78 7/29/22 8:45 AM

I think once the leader crosses the line at the checkered it’s official, and I believe it’s the leader plus one for any other lap. It doesn’t apply here though because they were on the backstretch coming to the white so it was 28 completed laps that they reverted back to.
But like you, I am not 100% positive.

mc/rider 7/29/22 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huskermudd1 (Post 555564)
Bacon whines again

Please tell us more, this is something I didnt know about the Beast

Pitdad 7/29/22 11:05 AM

Re: Bacon
 
I turned off FLO after the checks fell. It was getting late and I didn't feel the need to hear the same victory lane interviews again. I gather from all your comments that Bacon complained in his post race interview about having the pass taken away because of the yellow created when Ballou and KTJ stopped on the track? From what little I could see on FLO (because the battle for the lead was the story, and they did a great job of keeping the action there), I saw Robert stopped over the top of Kevin's nose as Kevin was crossed up in the corner. The story says that Kevin was in 8th and Robert in 10th when it happened. Can someone who was there OBJECTIVELY report on what happened?

And how could Bacon (whom I like and admire) have known that it was all Robert's fault? Just like Grant the other night in his post race speech against Robert, HE COULDN'T HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED, IT WAS BEHIND HIM! That tells me that someone was chirping in his ear when he got out of the car and he made assumptions based on everyone's dislike for Robert's style.

I don't really have a dog in this fight. My kid likes Robert because he's old school, doing it on his own, and still uses an open trailer like we do. I'd just like to know what the whole story is.

yeleyfan76 7/29/22 11:07 AM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by opnwhlmnd (Post 555565)
Brady using the Balloudozer nickname was a classic. LOL

Classic indeed. If Robert were smart he’d use that as a set up for a new t-shirt.(kinda like Bacon did with the Terre Haute flip last year) Print a bunch of shirts with a neat graphic of the Balloudozer. Maybe have tail tanks from other cars. 69,77,4, and whatever Ronald McDonald ride he hasn’t quit or lost yet. I’ll bet it’s a seller. Maybe even give a tiny percentage to Brady for tissues.

Funny how quickly the well liked for his professionalism Bacon has become more like Ballou with his tweets and crying interviews. When it all doesn’t fall into place for him he is no better than what everybody complains about regarding Ballou.

Hoping for more fun tonight! ISW 22 is anything but boring.

JakeCroxton 7/29/22 12:18 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Leader plus 1 at the scoring loop unless it's the checkered...leader across the scoring line (the front of the flagstand, not the scoring loop on the last lap) ends the race, then it split scores back to the last lap minus the caution cars for cars that didn't cross the scoring line. The only way to do it any different is to have multiple loops like NASCAR does - then there would be a question of where the multiple loops are and why they are different at different places.

You have to draw the line at some point that's the same for everybody.

I prefer that method to "every single car even the caution cars" or you go back, or "every single car minus the caution cars" - all ways that I've seen it done...

Jonr 7/29/22 12:41 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeCroxton (Post 555595)
Leader plus 1 at the scoring loop unless it's the checkered...leader across the scoring line (the front of the flagstand, not the scoring loop on the last lap) ends the race, then it split scores back to the last lap minus the caution cars for cars that didn't cross the scoring line. The only way to do it any different is to have multiple loops like NASCAR does - then there would be a question of where the multiple loops are and why they are different at different places.

You have to draw the line at some point that's the same for everybody.

I prefer that method to "every single car even the caution cars" or you go back, or "every single car minus the caution cars" - all ways that I've seen it done...

So, I do know that not every track/series follows the same rules. Growing up you never saw a Green/White flag at the same time followed by a checker. It was always a green flag, White flag and then the checkered. However, now, I have seen multiple green/white combined flags.

As long as the rules are the same from the beginning to the end, it really does not matter.

The55 7/29/22 1:03 PM

I thought everyone liked it when drivers speak their mind in interviews. I didn’t see Bacon’s comment as whining, just an opportunity to take a shot at Ballou. Seems better than trying to drop kick him. Anyway, it cracked me up, I like both drivers so not coming at this as a special fan of either. BTW, why did they requalify after the rain?

TQ29m 7/29/22 1:22 PM

My guess would be to let everyone have another shot at the new track, and make changes based on the last run, we've got to do that before, probably didn't favor any one, and might have helped or hurt some, but at least they tried.

racefan20 7/29/22 1:28 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The55 (Post 555597)
I thought everyone liked it when drivers speak their mind in interviews. I didn’t see Bacon’s comment as whining, just an opportunity to take a shot at Ballou. Seems better than trying to drop kick him. Anyway, it cracked me up, I like both drivers so not coming at this as a special fan of either. BTW, why did they requalify after the rain?

Because there were maybe 2 or 3 that hadnt qualified yet. In order to be fair and have everyone qualify under the same conditions they started over.
I loved the 2 at a time quals they did the second time. Maybe they should think about doing that all the time.

nodramazone20 7/29/22 2:33 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Start the program on time ....not 10 minutes late and qualify 2 at a time to begin with, and problem is solved....very simple

Sandy Lowe 7/29/22 2:37 PM

Re: Bacon
 
I don't really understand why it's leader plus one to count a lap in the middle of the feature, but if everyone completes lap 29 of a 30-lap feature and the caution comes out you have to revert back to lap 28.

As long as everyone knows the format they are racing under and it is followed I'm okay with it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

The55 7/29/22 2:40 PM

I assumed that was the case but thought I also heard there was only 2 left to qualify when they stopped. Was surprised they stopped qualifying rather than just let the last couple go, track didn’t become a mess for another 15-20 minutes. Agree on 2 at a time qualifying. 50+ cars is a lot to qualify one at a time. To be clear, not complaining, got to see racing and I am retired so the late night didn’t bother me at all.

kb78 7/29/22 3:22 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe (Post 555604)
I don't really understand why it's leader plus one to count a lap in the middle of the feature, but if everyone completes lap 29 of a 30-lap feature and the caution comes out you have to revert back to lap 28.

As long as everyone knows the format they are racing under and it is followed I'm okay with it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't think they do revert back to lap 28 if they have taken the white flag, they stay as they are scored on lap 29 and run an extra lap so they get the green/white/checkered. If you look at the summery of Friday at Gas City it shows that they ran 31 laps instead of 30, so they scored them at 29 when the last caution fell and then ran the two lap ending.

Charles Nungester 7/29/22 3:45 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 555600)
Because there were maybe 2 or 3 that hadnt qualified yet. In order to be fair and have everyone qualify under the same conditions they started over.
I loved the 2 at a time quals they did the second time. Maybe they should think about doing that all the time.

Lets not, Although it was necessary for time at Burg, I hate having to choose which one to watch. I like to watch each car and see what they did different. Also when the 24th qualifier is fast time. How'd he do that?

As for Bacon, You mess with the Beast, You get the chops!
Only fair, Robert used the bull/horns anology.

Like both, Race on!

Sandy Lowe 7/29/22 3:55 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kb78 (Post 555606)
I don't think they do revert back to lap 28 if they have taken the white flag, they stay as they are scored on lap 29 and run an extra lap so they get the green/white/checkered. If you look at the summery of Friday at Gas City it shows that they ran 31 laps instead of 30, so they scored them at 29 when the last caution fell and then ran the two lap ending.

I kinda worded my post a little wonky. What I meant to say was why count a lap where only 2 cars are scored and then add laps to the race because it's not "fair" to run only one lap at the end.

Charles Nungester 7/29/22 4:00 PM

Re: Bacon
 
Well at least we aren't doing restarts on the backstretch again while the rear of the field is still at the flagstand getting the one to go.


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