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flagboy55 7/4/22 10:40 AM

Look What Happens
 
50 cars plus at LPS when some cooperation between tracks happens. Big car counts and large crowds. Conversely, Indiana tracks taking a swing at USAC this weekend by running 5 grand to win races at Gas City and Kokomo, against the USAC Nationals at Husets. To be clear, I would have no problem with them running regular shows because a lot of locals most likely wouldn’t make the trip anyway, but to run specials is blatant disrespect to the sanction that probably provides these tracks with their biggest races of the year

mc/rider 7/4/22 11:15 AM

I disagree. Over 800 miles between tracks,I dont see any disrespect. Those two tracks running against Sun Prairie last week maybe. On the other hand I wouldnt have had a issue with Lburg or Haubstad running last week.JMO

DirtTrackTherapy16J 7/4/22 11:50 AM

Flagboy let me start by saying your entitled to your thoughts and opinions just like anyone is. If you have ever read any of my post, especially from last night, I lost my Dad 1 year ago today. No you dont have to say your sorry, my point with that is I'm in no shape or mood to argue, bicker, debate, any of that.

However, maybe I'm mistaken your post but I dont think so, I read it a couple times. I also know from your previous post, your heading to SD, and likely excited, rightfully so, I would be too. That's awesome, I wish I could go but no way in heck can I with it being prefair week, 4H, and me now being my niece's go to since my Dad, her papaw is gone. I hope you have a great trip and great time and great racing.

But with what your saying, let me tell you this...GC this Friday, is the 5TH ANNUAL Jerry Gappens Sr. Classic. Mr. Gappens Jr. already had this scheduled for this date before USAC announced their schedule for 2022, and he took the Eldora job. Also The Darland Memorial at Kokomo has been ran since at least 2004 that I know of, minus Covid. Husset's on the other hand has only been on the USAC schedule for what 2 seasons now?

I can guarantee you that Mr. Gappens and The O'connor Family DID NOT deliberately schedule against Husset's and USAC. They are not that kind of people nor do they operate and run business that way. With that said, do some of the Southern Indiana tracks schedule against each other on purpose competing for business, cars, fans, absolutely they do and yes it does drive car counts down.

On top of that, the USAC drivers are gonna go USAC, most the local drivers are gonna stay home and go to local shows. It's been that way all season. Most USAC regulars have traveled the USAC tour, most locals have stayed local. GC and Kokomo having Memorial races this next coming weekend is not gonna affect Husset's. Husset's is not gonna affect GC and Kokomo. Maybe a couple cars here or there but no significant differences.

Dirtfan 7/4/22 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55 (Post 554265)
50 cars plus at LPS when some cooperation between tracks happens. Big car counts and large crowds. Conversely, Indiana tracks taking a swing at USAC this weekend by running 5 grand to win races at Gas City and Kokomo, against the USAC Nationals at Husets. To be clear, I would have no problem with them running regular shows because a lot of locals most likely wouldn’t make the trip anyway, but to run specials is blatant disrespect to the sanction that probably provides these tracks with their biggest races of the year

Without doing any research aren't you the same poster that went on the same rant last year and a year or two before with the Cornbelt Nationals? Nothing is said when the Eastern Storm is running.
I'll bet the ones running Friday & Saturday will be happy to be open & Welcome competitors & fans a like.
BTW we will be at both tracks this coming weekend and home Sunday Night to watch the Husets on Sunday Night.
Oh,BTW if you haven't been to Mt Rushmore,you'll be pretty close.🏁🏁

BrentTFunk 7/4/22 1:09 PM

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I Don't think this weekend is as big of a deal. I do think Promoters should respect other tracks higher paying shows within the state. This past weekend shows it makes a huge difference. Husets could really use some guys within the upper Midwest to support them. I probably would have went, if it was the same weekend as last year. Just for the record the USAC schedule was out first.

opnwhlmnd 7/4/22 1:13 PM

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Mt Rushmore is 375 miles west of Brandon, South Dakota

flagboy55 7/4/22 1:26 PM

First I do not mind being corrected if I am wrong. But to my recollection, I don’t ever remember the Darland or the Gas City race being 5K to win MSCS shows. Like I said I wouldn’t have a problem with a regular show. If I’m not mistaken, The USAC Nationals is paying 12K to win and a thousand to start. A very good payout for a genre that needs more EVENTS. I just believe that now you might have a few teams that might stay local and take a shot at five grand. A typical local purse is a lot less enticing. And for what it’s worth I was sitting next to my Dad almost exactly 2 months ago as he took his last breath. Part of why I’m going is I know he would want me to

ginblueearth 7/4/22 1:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 554269)
Without doing any research aren't you the same poster that went on the same rant last year and a year or two before with the Cornbelt Nationals? Nothing is said when the Eastern Storm is running.
I'll bet the ones running Friday & Saturday will be happy to be open & Welcome competitors & fans a like.
BTW we will be at both tracks this coming weekend and home Sunday Night to watch the Husets on Sunday Night.
Oh,BTW if you haven't been to Mt Rushmore,you'll be pretty close.����

Dirtfan you may want to look at a map it's a full day's drive from Husets . To the Black Hills and Mt Rushmore :3::3::3::3:

wildman92 7/4/22 1:39 PM

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Originally Posted by opnwhlmnd (Post 554272)
Mt Rushmore is 375 miles west of Brandon, South Dakota

We drove 12 hours to Huset’s last year. With the way this crazy world is, we may not get back out there so we decided what’s another 5 hours to see a historical monument which happened to be the coolest thing I think we’ve ever seen. Beautiful country out there. If you can, take the extra time to explore — May never get that way again.

Dirtfan 7/4/22 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ginblueearth (Post 554276)
Dirtfan you may want to look at map it's a full day's drive from Husets . To the Black Hills and Mt Rushmore :3::3::3::3:

Did it last year Bub,ring up Devils Tower in Wyoming also.

opnwhlmnd 7/4/22 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 554278)
Did it last year Bub,ring up Devils Tower in Wyoming also.

I did the same thing last year Dick, see I can name call also. Gas also wasn't $5.00 a gallon last year.

openwheelfan1 7/4/22 2:34 PM

I may be wrong (not unusual) but I doubt the IN tracks running against Husets will have much impact on the car count at Husets. The one team that I suspect may opt to stay in IN and race MSCS that might have gone out west is the KO Motorsports team. I don’t know that they aren’t going, but with Chase Stockon leading MSCS points and being 7th in USAC points and JMac 11th in USAC points, it wouldn’t surprise me if they stay and race in IN.

While I applaud Matt Wood for taking a risk and attempting to further midget and non-wing sprint racing, I fear this event faces an uphill struggle again this year due to fuel costs and overall inflation. With Husets located approx. 750 miles from Indianapolis, teams are likely facing a $1200-1500 fuel bill for the round trip. Even with the recently released modified payout (which I think is a good thing!) for most teams this is a going to be a very expensive, money losing weekend.

Josh Spencer 7/4/22 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55 (Post 554265)
50 cars plus at LPS when some cooperation between tracks happens. Big car counts and large crowds. Conversely, Indiana tracks taking a swing at USAC this weekend by running 5 grand to win races at Gas City and Kokomo, against the USAC Nationals at Husets. To be clear, I would have no problem with them running regular shows because a lot of locals most likely wouldn’t make the trip anyway, but to run specials is blatant disrespect to the sanction that probably provides these tracks with their biggest races of the year

Just to clear somethings up, the Darland Memorial has AlWAYS been the same weekend as when USAC went to Wisconsin this year, so Kokomo rescheduled it for this weekend coming up since Wisconsin is close. So they scheduled it for this coming up weekend thinking that the people that are going to Husets will go and the ones who aren’t going will not and there is huge difference in distance between the two! Kokomo does a really good job to work with other sanctions and tracks. Nobody bitched when Putnimville and Lawrenceburg ran a regular show with sprints during midget week? We try to work with other tracks/sanctions, but sometimes it’s just not going to work out and I believe there will be a good amount of cars at both tracks.

Thanks, Josh Spencer

Chief Wahoo 7/4/22 3:21 PM

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Originally Posted by opnwhlmnd (Post 554279)
I did the same thing last year Dick, see I can name call also. Gas also wasn't $5.00 a gallon last year.

Stay classy there in your Parts Unknown. Your tag line says it all.

Charles Nungester 7/4/22 3:25 PM

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Just saying this coming weekend as well as this one and last, I've been at home. I think it's is good for GC and Kokomo the other three tracks running sat may suffer. at least two will. It's a damn shame too when just getting to the local tack cost twice what the gate is. Local track being a 85mi round trip..

I realize tracks schedule over six months in advance in some cases and im blaming nobody. But the 25 dollar tank full for a car is now 85 and the 5 dollar wendys with fries is now 10. Im f'd and Im sure Im not the only one.

mc/rider 7/4/22 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 554269)
Without doing any research aren't you the same poster that went on the same rant last year and a year or two before with the Cornbelt Nationals? Nothing is said when the Eastern Storm is running.
I'll bet the ones running Friday & Saturday will be happy to be open & Welcome competitors & fans a like.
BTW we will be at both tracks this coming weekend and home Sunday Night to watch the Husets on Sunday Night.
Oh,BTW if you haven't been to Mt Rushmore,you'll be pretty close.🏁🏁

Im calling you out, If your from Hoosierville you may be closer to Rushmore but your not pretty close

Dirtfan 7/4/22 5:37 PM

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Originally Posted by opnwhlmnd (Post 554279)
I did the same thing last year Dick, see I can name call also. Gas also wasn't $5.00 a gallon last year.

Good for you Richard,it was a nice trip wasn't it?

PIT CART 7/4/22 7:23 PM

Glad to see Indiana having some high paying races. The cost to drive to Hussets from north east Indiana in a vehicle that gets 25 mpg is expensive. I can’t imagine what the cost is for a team to travel that far with the tolls in Illinois and fuel cost.

oldfan49 7/4/22 10:22 PM

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There are enough cars to go around. I see it as a win - win. There are many teams who can not afford the trip and/or know they don't have the funds to be competitive with the big money teams. Some don't have the motors that will be needed at Hussets.

What's so bad about them having a chance to shine and run for some big money while the better funded teams are away with the large distance ? Whats so bad about the fans who cant afford to travel having a chance to see some great racing and see some teams up front they normally see up front?

I know of at least one Kansas City based team that evaluated the options and decided Indiana is their best option. My only regret is I won't be able to see the Indiana races.

Tk04 7/5/22 12:26 AM

This weekend will give some smaller teams a bigger chance at $$ since usac is out west.

spankytoo 7/5/22 2:13 PM

Re: Look What Happens
 
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Originally Posted by flagboy55 (Post 554265)
50 cars plus at LPS when some cooperation between tracks happens. Big car counts and large crowds. Conversely, Indiana tracks taking a swing at USAC this weekend by running 5 grand to win races at Gas City and Kokomo, against the USAC Nationals at Husets. To be clear, I would have no problem with them running regular shows because a lot of locals most likely wouldn’t make the trip anyway, but to run specials is blatant disrespect to the sanction that probably provides these tracks with their biggest races of the year

Meanwhile; back in the pits, 36 drivers go home with $100 each night while spending $1100 each night.

flagboy55 7/5/22 4:10 PM

Spanky I suppose that’s a small price to pay for doing what you love!

Rpracing1 7/5/22 6:01 PM

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MSCS lists 98 cars have points accumulated in their series. How many of these guys do you really think would travel to USAC Nationals at Husets? Gives some locals a chance to make a few dollars in Indiana this weekend.

nonwing79 7/6/22 10:30 AM

You have 2 big days of MSCS and then you have Bloomington and LPS schedule local shows against them, and you complain about scheduling against USAC at Husets.


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