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Charles Nungester 6/26/22 10:39 AM

Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
I come from the days of Anybody but Kinser and there were boo birds, Including me. But I respected his talent and recognize he was one of the best that will ever be in a sprint car.

Last night Macri made it two in a row in PA Speedweek at Lincoln and a group of fans standing off to the side of victory lane badgered him into not being able to enjoy the moment. Seen this at Tri State midget week on Kofoid too. I mean what the heck? Is this drunkenness or just being idiots? I pick the first as it's exactly why I quit going to big near sellout races due to totally S Faced fans making it not enjoyable to be there.

Haven't experienced it much if at all in Indiana. But still. Enjoy yourself. Boo when they call the name, Whatever, But don't sit there for ten minutes cussin the guy for whooping everyone's A$$

BTW, Steve and Karl were used to it. They'd flip em off point to the check, ask where's your car? and egg em on.

dsc1600 6/26/22 11:00 AM

The dark side of some Posse fans, they’ve been booing the dominant guys for years, Fred Rahmer got the worst of it. When the WoO comes in all is temporarily forgiven and Macri will be cheered.

Charles Nungester 6/26/22 11:04 AM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
IDK. Think they're mad a him for venturing out?? I don't think he's running for a track championship in PA. But is doing Knoxville, WVa, Eldora and other things. And rightly so. I think with some laps on more tracks. he could win anywhere against anybody. he's got the team.

jonboat15 6/26/22 12:01 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
If you are going to be a consistent winner in PA you will get boooed. It was a large crowd last night and more people equates to more drunken idiots. The Macri team is on a roll right now, they'll have to get used to the haters till the outlaws come around. Same stuff in PA just a different decade

SoIllSprinter 6/26/22 12:43 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
I certainly don’t speak for Charles, but I think the point in boo if you want, then lay off. Constant harangues in victory lane or anywhere else is uncalled for.

Charles Nungester 6/26/22 1:17 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SoIllSprinter (Post 553878)
I certainly don’t speak for Charles, but I think the point in boo if you want, then lay off. Constant harangues in victory lane or anywhere else is uncalled for.


Exactly.

captrat 6/26/22 1:33 PM

Civility left this culture sometime ago. Couple that with anonymity and we have a toxic brew.

Kart#51 6/26/22 1:43 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
They must have been really pouring it on. He mentioned that group twice in his interview. Marci is always a refreshing interview because he is slightly quirky and appears introverted so you're never sure what he might say. He mentioned something about social Media last week at Port. He must be catching a ton of social media garbage these days and with his relatively new found stardom he is not quite sure how to handle the haters.

Last night I was hoping he would say, " I think I made some new fans tonight. We need to get them to the TShirt trailer so they can come back on Monday wearing new shirts and cheer me on to victory lane." That would have been the best thing he could have done, but instead I think he made it worse. He's young, being 20, he's going to make mistakes so i'm sure next time he will have a more polished line for a retort to the fans.

He could always use the old Bob Weikert line. "The louder you boo, the fast that car gets"

dsc1600 6/26/22 4:26 PM

He and Mike Wagner got together on the frontstretch last week at Port and he and Logan Wagner got together earlier in the year. That’s probably behind at least part of it too/

B99 6/26/22 4:39 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 553866)
I come from the days of Anybody but Kinser and there were boo birds, Including me. But I respected his talent and recognize he was one of the best that will ever be in a sprint car.

Last night Macri made it two in a row in PA Speedweek at Lincoln and a group of fans standing off to the side of victory lane badgered him into not being able to enjoy the moment. Seen this at Tri State midget week on Kofoid too. I mean what the heck? Is this drunkenness or just being idiots? I pick the first as it's exactly why I quit going to big near sellout races due to totally S Faced fans making it not enjoyable to be there.

Haven't experienced it much if at all in Indiana. But still. Enjoy yourself. Boo when they call the name, Whatever, But don't sit there for ten minutes cussin the guy for whooping everyone's A$$

BTW, Steve and Karl were used to it. They'd flip em off point to the check, ask where's your car? and egg em on.

Sadly Chuck it is where we are at as a society. The people that raised me, and probably you and a great many more would have been horribly embarassed if we had acted that way, and if we had been kids, beat our a$$ later. Unfortunately too many think it's their right to behave and act this way.

Charles Nungester 6/26/22 5:00 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B99 (Post 553888)
Sadly Chuck it is where we are at as a society. The people that raised me, and probably you and a great many more would have been horribly embarassed if we had acted that way, and if we had been kids, beat our a$$ later. Unfortunately too many think it's their right to behave and act this way.

Macri should sell Anybody but Macri T Shirts and make a $$$ off it.

B99 6/26/22 5:03 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 553890)
Macri should sell Anybody but Macri T Shirts and make a $$$ off it.

LOL, Good idea. I was at a late model event the other night, one of the drivers is the "villian". He won and some of the names he was called, and some of the gestures from alleged adults would have made a sailor blush.

dsc1600 6/26/22 7:23 PM

I agree with what people are saying in this post but I draw the line that this booing of successful drivers is a new thing brought on by a lack of civility. I’ve only been going to the races for 40 years so I’m a young pup compared to many, but fans have been vicious to front runners the entire time I’ve been going.

yeleyfan76 6/26/22 9:01 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
I find it funny that a group from the Midwest are even debating this issue. It’s no secret that people are quite a bit more mellow and kinder out there. Here in the east it’s eat or get eaten everyday all day. It’s just how it is. As stated earlier Macri has no idea yet how bad it gets as Rahmer was as evil for the fans as it gets. Of course Fred grew up in a tougher generation so he handled and dealt with it differently. When Macri grows up a little he will be fine. The social media thing can be a problem, but only the weak let it bother them. Macri will keep on winning and some of the fans will keep on cussing. Danny Dietrich deals with it too. Unfortunately you have got to have a thick skin to live out here cause that’s the way it is. You Midwesterners have got it good out there, it is why we visit a lot and have made many friends.

Chief Wahoo 6/26/22 9:56 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Went to Knoxville for first time last year and going back again this year. You want to hear booing, my goodness they are brutal towards Schatz.

Charles Nungester 6/26/22 11:15 PM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yeleyfan76 (Post 553899)
I find it funny that a group from the Midwest are even debating this issue. It’s no secret that people are quite a bit more mellow and kinder out there. Here in the east it’s eat or get eaten everyday all day. It’s just how it is. As stated earlier Macri has no idea yet how bad it gets as Rahmer was as evil for the fans as it gets. Of course Fred grew up in a tougher generation so he handled and dealt with it differently. When Macri grows up a little he will be fine. The social media thing can be a problem, but only the weak let it bother them. Macri will keep on winning and some of the fans will keep on cussing. Danny Dietrich deals with it too. Unfortunately you have got to have a thick skin to live out here cause that’s the way it is. You Midwesterners have got it good out there, it is why we visit a lot and have made many friends.


I've made about six vacations out thru PA and never had a problem. Nice people everywhere. Now I did go to a Erie PA hockey game wearing my Cincinnati Cyclones Jersey once. They wanted to fight. Im like Dude, Enjoy the game, let the best team win. We won six to two. Also wore my Bengals Jersey to kennywood. They razzed me a lot but nothing I wouldn't do to them wearing diaper colors here. .

One of the nicest things I ever had done was after driving four hours thru places with ten inches of snow to Fort Wayne Comets game. I chipped a tooth and was in some bad pain. Some fans there helped me out big time with some Percoset. Id of never got my fiancee at the time home without it.

Now out in Jersey, They know your not from around there and they'll play ya with the rough tough talk, but most are generally nice and be smiling when they do it.

Anyway, I love PA.

Dirtfan 6/26/22 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Wahoo (Post 553902)
Went to Knoxville for first time last year and going back again this year. You want to hear booing, my goodness they are brutal towards Schatz.

When Steve Kinser was winning everything,should've heard them back then,geez.

racefan20 6/27/22 12:09 AM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 553909)
When Steve Kinser was winning everything,should've heard them back then,geez.

Even at Bloomington!

Charles Nungester 6/27/22 12:26 AM

Re: Belligerence. Seriously Lincoln
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 553909)
When Steve Kinser was winning everything,should've heard them back then,geez.

The year Scruffy won the nationals I went up to a WoO race at attica and scruffy and steve ran side by side for half the race for the lead just like earlier in the year at the kings royal. Well steve won the royal and also Attica. This is when I talk about fans booing and yelling stuff at him and Karl while getting pics in victory lane. And Litterally Karl flipped em off, pointed to the check and said where's your car, Come beat us.

Scott Daloisio 6/27/22 2:39 AM

A driver getting booed started the first time a second driver showed up to race.


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