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nathans1012 12/9/21 11:47 AM

AMSOIL USAC National Sprints - 2022 Schedule
 
AMSOIL USAC National Sprints


2022 Schedule

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wildman92 12/9/21 12:02 PM

Nice!!! We are already planning trips to a few new tracks for us!

ISF 12/9/21 12:28 PM

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Another season where not a single event is scheduled in the state of Illinois.

racenut69 12/9/21 4:56 PM

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Sad...SMH!

Originally Posted by ISF:
Another season where not a single event is scheduled in the state of Illinois.


Jrp4554 12/9/21 6:15 PM

Sucks they're no longer going to Knoxville.....AKA.... the Brady Bacon invitational.

tamati 12/9/21 7:10 PM

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Two days at Terre Haute in may that will be nice

addictedtodirt 12/9/21 8:02 PM

Especially if they add the silver crown cars both nights. A guy can dream, right?

Stevensville Mike 12/9/21 8:05 PM

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Nice to see ISW does not conflict with the Kings Royal week again. Good move!

racefan20 12/9/21 8:09 PM

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Originally Posted by addictedtodirt:
Especially if they add the silver crown cars both nights. A guy can dream, right?

Please no. Havent you ever watched the second feature of a 2 open wheel car show? The track is crap by the second feature no matter which track you are at. I see people wishing for this all the time but it makes me think you have never seen this happen before. Tell me the last time the track wasnt crap for the sprint cars during midget week.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 12/9/21 8:20 PM

Good schedule but taking a big chance trying to run Friday and Saturday night in May at Terre Haute. That doesn’t bode well for car count. There’s a reason they ran weekdays there. No longer have a late season race either. Otherwise, good to see all the higher paying shows.

cornerthree 12/9/21 9:35 PM

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Nice to have two dates in my home state of WI. Hopefully they get good support from fans and drivers.

oppweld 12/9/21 10:26 PM

Haubstadt Midget week.

Rapid Rick 12/9/21 10:43 PM

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Hoping the Sept. 16 TBA would be the Hurtubise Classic at the Action Track. Maybe Sept. 30.

badcoupe 12/9/21 10:47 PM

Atomic is a bit of a drive but since the first time in went there I felt midgets or sprints would be an awesome show, it’s really cool fast track.

Charles Nungester 12/9/21 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Please no. Havent you ever watched the second feature of a 2 open wheel car show? The track is crap by the second feature no matter which track you are at. I see people wishing for this all the time but it makes me think you have never seen this happen before. Tell me the last time the track wasnt crap for the sprint cars during midget week.

The best feature was the fourth and Silvercrown a couple years back at Eldora. Leary on the wall, KTJ down low and Cottle trying to split em. Over half the race.

flagboy55 12/9/21 11:30 PM

ISF. I don’t know what you think about Joliet but I was hoping it would be on the schedule. Would’ve been nice to see a little central Illinois deal too, Jacksonville, Farmer City Fairbury. I am glad we got a Saturday at Terre Haute. It’s about time. I’m sure all the weekday and Sunday races has kept more than a couple fans at home, I know it did me

ISF 12/10/21 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
ISF. I don’t know what you think about Joliet but I was hoping it would be on the schedule. Would’ve been nice to see a little central Illinois deal too, Jacksonville, Farmer City Fairbury. I am glad we got a Saturday at Terre Haute. It’s about time. I’m sure all the weekday and Sunday races has kept more than a couple fans at home, I know it did me

We'd be plenty excited for the USAC Sprint Cars at Joliet if they could find a way to start the A-main at a decent hour. We had a very bad experience at Joliet a couple of years ago when the USAC midgets were paired up with the winger sprint cars. Did not leave a very good impression on anyone in attendance.

Would love to see USAC Sprint Cars (and USAC Midgets, as well) at Jacksonville!! Best run dirt track in Illinois!! KD knows how to run an open wheel event better than any track in the state. Fairbury and Farmer City are hard core late model mainstays, and justifiably so, but open wheel events have a history of lacking fan support. Even the World of Outlaw Sprint Cars couldn't make any money for the folks at Fairbury.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 12/10/21 1:31 AM

Originally Posted by flagboy55:
ISF. I don’t know what you think about Joliet but I was hoping it would be on the schedule. Would’ve been nice to see a little central Illinois deal too, Jacksonville, Farmer City Fairbury. I am glad we got a Saturday at Terre Haute. It’s about time. I’m sure all the weekday and Sunday races has kept more than a couple fans at home, I know it did me

The reason they quit trying Saturdays at Terre Haute was dismal car count and not great fan support either. The weekdays have worked. Too bad you missed it. We’ll see.

miledirt 12/10/21 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
ISF. I don’t know what you think about Joliet but I was hoping it would be on the schedule. Would’ve been nice to see a little central Illinois deal too, Jacksonville, Farmer City Fairbury. I am glad we got a Saturday at Terre Haute. It’s about time. I’m sure all the weekday and Sunday races has kept more than a couple fans at home, I know it did me

Kenny Dobson at Jacksonville is one of the best promoters out there. Would be interesting to hear his take on why the central Il. tracks can't or don't get USAC shows.

addictedtodirt 12/10/21 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by racefan20:
Please no. Havent you ever watched the second feature of a 2 open wheel car show? The track is crap by the second feature no matter which track you are at. I see people wishing for this all the time but it makes me think you have never seen this happen before. Tell me the last time the track wasnt crap for the sprint cars during midget week.

Are you saying that a double open wheel show is no good? The full stands at midget week would seem to indicate that fans love the double open wheel shows. To continue to have 17 sprints and 8 modifieds as a full show just doesn't do it for me at THAT.
The Grove was a good race last year (and years before) and that is a double open wheel on the half mile. So good that Port Royal said hold my beer and added SC to the Eastern storm.
The doubles are highly attractive to me.
See you at the races.

nathans1012 12/10/21 10:47 AM

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Would love to see the Silver Crown cars at Route 66 in Joliet, IL. I think the track is still plenty big enough for them to run there.

flagboy55 12/10/21 11:29 AM

ISF. I too was at 66 for what can only be described as a debacle when the Allstars and USAC midgets were in attendance. I believe that’s the night they also DQ’d Larson. Anyway I’ve been back since and ran into another problem which was getting into the track. I won’t go into the whole story but once in it was good. The management there which I believe is Sherry Heckanast has actually done a great job with her staff. Very friendly and helpful. I’m very well aware of the entrenched Late Model crowd at the central Illinois tracks. I’ve been to all of them except Jacksonville, which I was going to but got called to work. However I think if strategically promoted it could work but I’m thinking that would take a lot from both USAC and the promotion team. They’re great little tracks. As far as the whole Terre Haute thing Throwback. If I read you correctly you’re saying local racing is more important than the national series at one of the best, and historically relevant tracks in the country? Maybe to some I suppose but I can’t grasp that logic. And since Flo I haven’t missed a race at the Action Track, because my bed is only a few steps away. That being said there’s nothing like being there. Every time I drive through the gate I feel like I’ve stepped on hallowed ground. Lucky enough to have Dad take us there mid 70’s Back then the only that was more important was a horse race from Kentucky.

ISF 12/10/21 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
ISF. I too was at 66 for what can only be described as a debacle when the Allstars and USAC midgets were in attendance. I believe that’s the night they also DQ’d Larson. Anyway I’ve been back since and ran into another problem which was getting into the track. I won’t go into the whole story but once in it was good. The management there which I believe is Sherry Heckanast has actually done a great job with her staff. Very friendly and helpful. I’m very well aware of the entrenched Late Model crowd at the central Illinois tracks. I’ve been to all of them except Jacksonville, which I was going to but got called to work. However I think if strategically promoted it could work but I’m thinking that would take a lot from both USAC and the promotion team. They’re great little tracks.

Sherry does a good job at Route 66 and it would be unfair to lay all the blame at her feet for the midget debacle. Beautiful facility that really should be utilized for racing more than it is.

The World of Outlaws shows at Fairbury seemed to be very well promoted. I attended the 1st of two WoO shows and aside from the track rubbering down for the last 12 or 15 laps of the A-main and being just a bit short on push vehicles it was a good show despite the fact that I'm not a huge winger advocate. It was posted on Fairbury's Facebook after the 2nd time WoO's were there and the schedule was released for the following season devoid of the WoO's. A track spokesman posted that they couldn't make any money. I must admit the crowd was lighter for the WoO's than what they normally draw for a regular weekly late model/mod/street stock show. I attend at least a couple of those every year. If they can't make any money hosting the top dirt open wheel division in the country then a USAC National show probably isn't going to cut it despite top flight promotion. Sad, but true.

ISF 12/10/21 4:18 PM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
ISF. If I read you correctly you’re saying local racing is more important than the national series at one of the best, and historically relevant tracks in the country? Maybe to some I suppose but I can’t grasp that logic.

What I'm saying in a nutshell is that in all likelihood a weekly late model/mod/street stock show at Fairbury will produce more spectator support than either the USAC Midgets or Sprint Cars. The fan base is solid and plentiful in their support of the fendered cars. It's in their DNA.

As a mere spectator Fairbury has been my home track going all the way back to well before they changed the track configuration and before I was old enough to even drive to the track. I've sat on the backstretch (which is the preferred place to watch) for most of the open wheel shows surrounded by the local weekly regulars, most of whom I've known for decades. The fact is, most aren't attracted to racecars that require push starts and produce a red flag every time there is a rollover. Doesn't really matter if they are a national touring series or a regional sanction. Most don't know much about, nor do they care, in reference to USAC National divisions. That is reality. Given the spectator climate in our area at this time it appears there just aren't enough like you and I to make it worthwhile for management to schedule a USAC show.

oppweld 12/10/21 6:46 PM

The best kept secret in Illinois is Charleston Speedway. Bad fast 3/8s, saw some 3wide midget action and great WAR sprints there last year. Check it out if you get the chance you will not be disappointed. Coolers are allowed.

dsc1600 12/10/21 7:12 PM

I think the only place that the WoO can’t draw is Illinois and the quad cities area. Many have tried and none have successed at least recently. It’s like when the LMs go to the northeast and bomb every time. Just not in the locals DNA.

flagboy55 12/10/21 7:55 PM

ISF. The last part of the question, about local racing and Terre Haute was intended for Throwback. I completely understand the Illinois Late Model deal. I do however think if properly done, a USAC race could do ok. I’m not referring to Outlaws races. I mean the cost of a USAC race would have to be about half what a WOO race is, or so we’re led to believe

flagboy55 12/10/21 7:58 PM

And I don’t blame Sherry for the debacle at Joliet. I once read that it was an issue with the other series, or Kyle coming over from the big track. I don’t know for sure but it wasn’t good. I would like to know what the problem was

cowboyhar69 12/10/21 9:56 PM

If a promoter thought they could make money on any sanctioned race then they would be knocking at a sanctioning bodies door to get a date.

flagboy55 12/11/21 12:47 AM

Tim, I can’t disagree. However there’s only so many dates to go around. And why take a chance on something different when you have something that’s already working. Maybe I didn’t articulate my point correctly. First, central Illinois has some great bullrings. Second, I’m just sayin it would be great to see some USAC races on these tracks. Third, I feel in order for it to work it would take some extra work from the tracks and USAC. I’m not sure how we got talking about the Outlaws because I believe this thread is about the USAC schedule. As much as I want to elevate my beloved United States Auto Club, as far as popularity goes, there’s really no comparison. But then again many Motorsport fans think NASCAR is entertaining

ISF 12/11/21 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
Tim, I can’t disagree. However there’s only so many dates to go around. And why take a chance on something different when you have something that’s already working. Maybe I didn’t articulate my point correctly. First, central Illinois has some great bullrings. Second, I’m just sayin it would be great to see some USAC races on these tracks. Third, I feel in order for it to work it would take some extra work from the tracks and USAC. I’m not sure how we got talking about the Outlaws because I believe this thread is about the USAC schedule. As much as I want to elevate my beloved United States Auto Club, as far as popularity goes, there’s really no comparison. But then again many Motorsport fans think NASCAR is entertaining

I'm the one who invoked the WoO's only to reinforce the fact that dirt open wheel racing hasn't been a lucrative venture for places such as Fairbury, Farmer City (FC ran some unsanctioned wingless shows a few years ago to no avail). Given that Fairbury attempted to make money promoting the WoO's and seemed to fall short I thought it pertinent. Farmer City and La Salle couldn't really sustain open wheel racing, either.

In Illinois, the people who run Fairbury are to DLM racing what Kenny Dobson (should mention Bob Sargent, as well) is to open wheel racing. They are as good as anyone in the business at promotion and giving their fans what they want. If the folks at Fairbury can't monetarily justify a WoO's show there is absolutely no reason to believe USAC could buck the trend. That was the analogy I was attempting to make by mentioning the WoO's. Didn't mean to deviate from the original topic.

Chief Wahoo 12/11/21 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oppweld:
The best kept secret in Illinois is Charleston Speedway. Bad fast 3/8s, saw some 3wide midget action and great WAR sprints there last year. Check it out if you get the chance you will not be disappointed. Coolers are allowed.

Went there this year for first time with Jim for POWRI midget show. Was completely blown away snd will definitely be looking to see what’s on their agenda next year.


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