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I saw it live at the track and it looked close but OK pass. Leary complained about Larson not racing him right in his interview and I'm guessing it was about the pass. I watched the replay on Flo and same conclusion close but no contact.
Heat of the moment frustration or legitimate complaint?

One of the best passes I’ve ever seen there on a rubber down track.

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Heat of the moment frustration, could be upset with how close he got. But no contact, clean pass.

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It was an aggressive move, no doubt. But it wasn't dirty, by any means, IMO. By that point, passing wasn't easy and Leary had 30 laps to retake the position and was unable to do so.

Jerry

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Aggressive yes, dirty not a chance.

People should quit crying. It’s called racing. Not following. Clean pass and just flat got outran.

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Leary complains about everything. Clean pass. Suck it up buttercup.

Why Larson is a winner, he takes chances that are calculated. Leary didn't have anything to complain about it was a CLEAN pass.

Sour Grapes nothing new.

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Aggressive yes, incredible talent displayed Yes, dirty move no

Upon further review....I can see why Leary wasn’t too pleased. The video shows how Larson cut him off and Leary did a great job avoiding a crash. Call it what you want. Hope to see them both go at it again.

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It was an odd looking maneuver, wasn't sure if it was a mistake of some sort or what....

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Having watched many years of dry slick, rubber down wing racing here in Ohio, the move was familiar to my eyes. Drive deep on the outside, clear, turn down (chop), and block the inside car's momentum. Inside driver has 2 choices...break and steer away or run over the outside driver chopping you, taking both out. CJ took the correct choice. He simply could not retaliate. Familiar move. Fair move? In the eye of the beholder.

If you watch the highlights from Flo they show Sunshine passing Leary on a restarts basically the exact same way.

The difference was Larson broke it loose sooner (did he need to scrub more speed 9r was it to get a reaction from CJ?) and (my belief) being later in the race CJ stayed in it deeper into the corner instead of conceding the corner. Both differences ended up with a much tighter and exciting result... In which CJ eventually had to bail and get out of shape to avoid the wreck.

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I think it was a chop job but those happen all the time anymore its part of racing just like slide jobs, it was aggressive, I don't about dirty though.

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I thought it was awesome balls up move by Larson especially since it was on Leary and he got it to stick and turn. Knew Leary wasn’t going to be happy ( he never is ). Just glad Leary had some sense to let up a little bit and not crash both cars. Really didn’t think his brakes were gonna hold up as hard as Leary was running. Them rotors were glowing!!

Leary had 31 laps to get him back right?

Is t clean passes and not making contact part of racing though? I’m not being a smart aww about it, please don’t take it that way. I thought it was clean and just a gutsy move. He was obviously faster. JMO.

Larson has been doing this all year in winged sprints including 2 incidents at Knoxville recently. To be fair he has gotten used up just as much the last couple of weeks and never complains. He’s very gifted but also an extremely smart racer which is basically unbeatable these days no matter what he runs.

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Next time just hit him instead of braking.

I don’t think he’s dirty at all. He just races extremely hard every single lap it seems. I like it mainly because when he gets used up like stated above he doesn’t complain he just moves on.

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I call it Winning!

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When I witnessed it I thought they were going to maybe crash. Fast racing pass and I give credit to Leary for avoiding it. For the lead at the Hoosier Hundred. Thankful I was there to see it. Great weekend in Indy!

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Anyone happen to have a video clip of said pass for those of us that weren't able to attend?

It's on Flo

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Here ya go

https://youtu.be/kHOmFyp4C6c

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As Brad Doty pointed out on Twitter look close at Larson's rear tires during the pass, they are tall and narrow meaning he is still hard on the throttle during the whole pass. If Brad Doty approves it's good enough for me. As I said on another thread here at least Larson didn't scratch his tail tank which was the complaint in the prior Silver Crown race when Cottle passed Leary.

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To me it was a slide job on the bottom of the track. If you think about it. To do a slide job you start low and drift, cut infront of the car up at the top of the track. He just started high and cut low in front of him at the bottom of the track. If leary was fast. Should he not been able to do the same thing to him at the next corner?

I was with a friend one night after a race at the Action Track and he started talking to CJ. I wasn’t part of the conversation just listened. I came away a bigger fan then I already was, thinking this kid can not only wheel but a cool guy also. Now it seems if things don’t go exactly his way he’s got to say something derogatory. Maybe he feels that way but some things are better left unsaid. I mean if I told my boss everything I was thinking I probably wouldn’t have a job. On the other side aren’t we lucky Kyle Larson made a harmless mistake and the knee jerk overreaction of Ganassi and NASCAR gave us a wonderful gift of what very easily could have been a terrible season.

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For at least awhile anyways...hearing Kyle is asking NASCAR to be reinstated and that Stewart would sign him if reinstated....Haven't seen or read anything "official" but man I'd hate to loose him back to NA$CAR.

Not trying to gang up on CJ; after all, I’ve enjoyed watching him race, but I wanted to follow up on a couple of comments about him in this thread. In one of the interviews with CJ Sunday, he referred to “Kody, being the jerk that he is.” In my opinion, Kody is as far from a jerk as one can get, and that comment showed CJ in a new light for me. Did anyone else hear that comment? Thoughts?

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If were going to suffer a loss Id would rather it be Larson going to Indy Car :deadhorse:

Do you have a link to that interview?

Do you have a link would like to see/hear it for myself? Because if it’s the interview I think you’re thinking of it was from the Dave Steele classic Friday in which Tanner Swanson said that.....

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No, sorry, I don't have a link. It would be on the full replay on Flo. I just spent about a half hour scanning the replay but couldn't locate the interview. However, I do know it was CJ, and he did refer to Kody specifically.

It’s possible to think Larson is perhaps the best ever and the move for the lead was at least a bit crappy. Watch the YouTube replay that’s posted in this thread. He turned down on CJ, threw the car sideways in front of him 100 yards before the actual entry into the corner, without being clear, straightened the car out and then turned into the corner. The only reason they both didn’t crash was CJ slamming the brakes. It was a pretty crappy move and one that anyone else would have mentioned right after the race as well. Did CJ have time to pass him back and couldn’t. Yes no arguments there. But how you can watch that replay and not at least raise your eye brows at
the cleanliness of that move, makes me think you should get glasses.

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I guess by today's standards it wasn't too bad, but before roll cages it would have earned you a post race nosebleed.

I would like an exact reference to go to cause I highly doubt cj would say something like that lol so until you provide with actual points I suggest you go back to Friday’s broadcast and watch where it’s either tanner or Justin I believe (being sarcastic obviously) where they call him a jerk. Maybe you’ll get learnt a thing or 2

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Thank you very much sir. Exactly what I was looking for as I don't have Flo. :6:

The move certainly put Mr. Leary in a bind. His choice was hit the inside wall, hit Larson, or get on the binders to not destroy anyone's equipment. I think Leary has a legitimate gripe, but is probably more of a gripe that he wasn't raced the same way he was racing Larson and got taken advantage of because of it. Dirty move? I don't think so, but maybe more of a disrespectful move would be a more accurate description.

Leary gave him room to race and Mr. Larson made him pay for it by taking that room and then some. That aggressive nature wins races. The higher up the ladder of motorsports you go, the more that attitude is rewarded with victory. For someone who has been at the top levels honing that mental attitude and coming back to the regional ranks, it can be devastating to the local competition, which we are seeing. Racers better adapt to this, or be left in the back eating dust.

Personally, i think both drivers pushed the limits on “clean racing”. Looks to me like CJ crowded Larson more and more as they headed towards one and Larson closed the door early in response as soon as he felt clear.