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That was a car race! WOW!

Shane Cottle, you did a GREAT job!!! At one time he was standing on the track with his helmet off, waiting for the wrecker to take his wounded car to the work area. About 45 laps later he's standing in Victory Lane!

As the big dogs chased CJ Leary, who led the entire evening after setting fast time, they all burnt the tire off. Cottle had a new one and the bit in his teeth. Shane got my attention when he blew by Brady Bacon. I knew something special was about to happen. Yellows started popping like the worn right rears on the cars. Shane Cottle, he is the master of running the bottom anyway. I went outside and checked the stars, sure enough, they were all lined up!

Way to go Dude! With two laps to go he went around the outside of CJ Leary for the lead only to be foiled by the yellow. I looked up and the stars were still all aligned, this deal was not over. On the restart Shane stuck to the bottom and Leary inexplicably threw his racer into turn one like it had a new right rear. He held the lead down the back straight but that fried tire was going to be no help when it came to turn three, and it wasn't. Shane Cottle bumped him a bit as Leary struggled to hold his car down low, coming off four Cottle just flat smoked the slowing Leary and into the lead he went.

That was a great, great car race. Way to go Shane

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After the race he was asked if the newer tire helped. He said “ I wouldn’t call it new, it was 2 years old “. Thought that was awesome. Then Leary complained about all the late cautions and how guys were popping car out of gear and not pulling in and that Cottle knocked half the paint off his tail tank and maybe he’ll get a check from him.

I agree great race However ending at 11:20 onSunday is UNACCEPTABLE

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Originally Posted by Chief Wahoo:
After the race he was asked if the newer tire helped. He said “ I wouldn’t call it new, it was 2 years old “. Thought that was awesome. Then Leary complained about all the late cautions and how guys were popping car out of gear and not pulling in and that Cottle knocked half the paint off his tail tank and maybe he’ll get a check from him.

I know that he was frustrated with the situation as I would have been, but I will remember this quote the next time he stops on the track with a flat tire in the sprint car instead of just getting out of the way. It also appeared to me that Cottle only got into him once and it wasn't even bad enough to get him out of shape, perhaps if he wasn't running such a wide line trying to hang on to the lead Cottle could have missed him entirely.

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I think in the future if USAC is not going to count yellow flag laps they will need to put a rule in place if you change a tire in the middle of the race you automatically go down 1 lap otherwise everyone will plan a pit stop in the future. Yes, I am happy Cottle won but Silver Crown races are endurance runs. Also agree with the other poster, too much downtime and ran way to late for a Sunday.

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Originally Posted by kb78:
I know that he was frustrated with the situation as I would have been, but I will remember this quote the next time he stops on the track with a flat tire in the sprint car instead of just getting out of the way. It also appeared to me that Cottle only got into him once and it wasn't even bad enough to get him out of shape, perhaps if he wasn't running such a wide line trying to hang on to the lead Cottle could have missed him entirely.

Yes my thoughts exactly.

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I think there were things learned as a first time event that will make the second year better encompassing all the comments above

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Has Leary ran any race where he hasn"t cried about something? I couldn"t believe hearing him last year about somebody beating him and he couldn"t pass the guy cuz they were in his groove, UNREAL!!!! :7:

Look, I like Shane Cottle, because I think he is an underrated driver and underdog. But I do think that that USAC needs to look at the rules for future Silver Crown races on 1/2 miles where yellow laps don’t count, because the races will become not about managing your equipment and your race, but about who has the biggest tire budget. The other thing that needs to be looked at is having a cut-off or some way to stop cars changing tires under yellow, not getting done before the furled flag and coming out and stopping to delay the restart. I saw Justin Grant and at least one other car do this. It extends the race unnecessarily. Overall, it was an enjoyable race to watch on Flo.

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Anytime you come from last to first in a usac race its big. Congrats Shane!

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Two green flag laps were run while Grant was changing his tire and then came out and stopped causing the yellow. Maybe that wasn't on purpose, we will never know. But with two laps left and having gone laps down why even go back out.

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Originally Posted by Points:
Two green flag laps were run while Grant was changing his tire and then came out and stopped causing the yellow. Maybe that wasn't on purpose, we will never know. But with two laps left and having gone laps down why even go back out.

I think your forum ID gives you a hint for the answer.

CJ Leary doesnt have a Tshirt trailer for no reason 😂

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I was there for the race. My buddy had to get up at 5:30 AM Monday for work. I got him back to Reading, PA by 1:45 and I did not get back to Lansdale, PA by 2:45 but I did not need to get to work until 2:15 PM. To me the race was worth it, especially how much USAC East Coast 360 Sprints have grown over the last three years, BUT, very poor time management either by USAC or track. Knowing first hand how well Selinsgrove runs their shows the last few years makes me think it was more of a USAC thing. Patrick Sullivan was and is an outstanding announcer however the track announcer talks to hear himself way too much. It is easy to see why Port Royal let him go. I will return for any USAC silver Crown Race on any night at any track with in five hours drive from Philadelphia area. Nonwing racing is where it is at. My plans are to hit Williams Grove Friday for USAC EC Sprints, plus 410 wing stuff and head out to Salem for USAC SC on Saturday. Is there any problems with getting walk up tickets on Aug. 15? Thanks in advance. Be safe, stay safe

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Originally Posted by Irving Zistman:
How are USAC drivers allowed to date USAC employees?

Maybe Usac doesn't have a rule about dating coworkers, do you think it is a conflict of interest? How did it affect the race and is it any of your business?

You're mistaking Grant for Windom. JG never came back out was 4 laps down

Originally Posted by Irving Zistman:
How are USAC drivers allowed to date USAC employees?

Hope your future posts can be more substantive and less pejorative.

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Originally Posted by Irving Zistman:
I bet if it was a gay guy that works for USAC dating a driver everyone would throw a fit

Go troll another site. Mods proceed zapping in 3,2,1...

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This sure got strange quick.... ;)
It was cool to see Cottle win from the back, wish i could have been there to see it. Flo & all the other PPVs rarely focus on battles in the back. Part of the fun live is whipping your head all over trying to keep track of the whole melee. But it seemed that the tire made all the difference. Must have been in good shape for 2 yrs. old!

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Originally Posted by CCI:
You're mistaking Grant for Windom. JG never came back out was 4 laps down

I took another look and it was the 91 Grant. I did see the final run down on Flo showed him 4 laps down something went wrong there. USAC even mentioned it in their write up.

Anyhow there was so many yellows at the end it kind of diluted the excitement at the end. Was there even points to be gained. It reminds me of when you have that car off the pace not in contention and passes by the corner worker waving him in safely and they pass by and stops on the track. Just how I saw it

Enjoyed the race overall. Was surprised at the not counting yellows. First thought was great. But not so sure after it was over.

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I think one of the things that makes silver crown racing what it is, is tire management. That always comes into play and it did here. So I was good with it.

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Shane!! :8::8: I'm happy!
CJ!! :13::13: I'm sad!

This guy Irving Zistman, has sourced his name from a Johnny Knoxville movie character "Irving Zisman" who basically is described as a cranky old man who likes to create pointless chaos. Go away.

I don’t think anything has to be changed, especially the fact that cautions were not counted. I always feel like counting them cheats the paying customer. If there’s anyone to blame, it’s only Hoosier Tire. I’m sure they could make a tire that could last if they so choose. I don’t have a problem with the company itself but some of these tire problems I think could be avoided

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I don’t think anything has to be changed, especially the fact that cautions were not counted. I always feel like counting them cheats the paying customer. If there’s anyone to blame, it’s only Hoosier Tire. I’m sure they could make a tire that could last if they so choose. I don’t have a problem with the company itself but some of these tire problems I think could be avoided

I believe there were more than one tire compound choice available. Leary even said in his interview they chose a soft tire and it hurt them. Don't see how Hoosier is to blame here.

The track took rubber coming off the corners which is why Leary got passed by Cottle. He tried to block and slipped out of the rubber. Think if most teams would have known it would rubber up like that we would have seen some different tire choices.

If there’s choices of a harder compound available I stand corrected. Then it’s on the team. But why wouldn’t anyone think the track would take rubber, it’s a long race?

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I don’t think anything has to be changed, especially the fact that cautions were not counted. I always feel like counting them cheats the paying customer. If there’s anyone to blame, it’s only Hoosier Tire. I’m sure they could make a tire that could last if they so choose. I don’t have a problem with the company itself but some of these tire problems I think could be avoided

They used to run the entire Indy 500 on one set of tires. It is definitely possible to create a tire that will last 100 laps.