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Everyone go to the World of Outlaw web site and read their new procedures for when they are allowed to race again. It's about 18 pages of good reading. Poor fans and race track promotors .

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Yep that looks like the making of a safe event. That's hope the PPV with no fans worked well this last weekend.

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Go Here
https://worldofoutlaws.com/covid-19-resources/
Wow! Racing as we know it is over

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https://worldofoutlaws.com/wp-conten..._4.23.20-1.pdf

So do you think short tracks will use this as guide for local tracks. Also for usac, allstars? Do you think a track would, could make money with the guidelines?

I’m sure all racing in general will have to follow these guidelines. I also didn’t read anywhere we’re it said these rules would change if the virus goes away.

Im kinda surprised there wasnt a rule change in how the National Anthem is played. The “land of the Free “ part is in the rear view mirror if you ask me.

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Good luck promoters you're gonna need it!

Attendee should wash hands with soap and water every 20-minutes throughout

(1) Concession Stand will be open with a limited menu

9pm: Event Completion :5: LOL

There will be NO Spectator access in the Pit Area

NO seats, cushions or blankets are permitted inside the Facility

Attendees should sit 6’ from other spectators unless they are household contacts…three(3) seats minimum

There will be NO Merchandise for sale at the event.

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While I feel saddened for the situation we are in, I do applaud WoO for developing a guide we can use and critique. on a positive note, we won't have to worry about feeling crowded for a little bit. I'm hopeful, in time, we would be able to ease the restrictions. Otherwise, I think we could kiss the Indy 500 goodbye for this year.

I think if a Martian 👽 from the moon landed at a racetrack with these restrictions they would think racing was safe and watching it is dangerous.
Does anyone think this about safety or completely changing our way of life?

What does telling a promoter what time he has to have the event over have anything thing to do with this situation?

So do we just turn into sheep and follow the heard or stand up like our grandpas and fathers would have?

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I am afraid the WOO has laid down a marker here that is going to make it difficult for any other sanctioning body or track for that matter to adopt a lesser standard. If they do and, God forbid, someone contacts the illness at the event I can only imagine the lawyers asking why they ignored the safety standards established by one of the premier sanctioning bodies.

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Does this mean tracks will have to have running water in the bathrooms?

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Interesting rules to say the least. Am I the only dinosaur left still using cash? If the government would eliminate cash and require a card for everything we could have the worst data breach ever. I like using cash always have. No tailgating at the races, no beer, and no reserved seats. I already paid for my yearly seat, no I don't expect a refund, I would just like to use my seat when the tracks open. I was never a big fan of the WoO and their making the rules for everyone else to comply with

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From decades of professional experience, where I work, when something goes wrong, we have to act to ensure it does not happen again. Learn via experience. This calls for an immediate directive from our managers on how to do this. Pretty much every time, the first directive has to be amended, for it will not work as originally written.

I am telling this to myself that this new WoO protocol-to-be is the first swing of the bat and will not/cannot be implemented as written, for myself, having experienced many a race, and many directives of the sort in my professional field, I can see the holes and pitfalls within this directive already. This is truly a wait-and-see time period.

On one end of the spectrum, nothing should be done. Go on as we did before. But that is not going to work. On the other end, this directive provides the ultimate extreme measures to be implemented. The true answer lies somewhere in the middle.

What makes me also wonder is not so much who came up with this directive, but moreso who was asked to provide input into it.

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Looks like the Lets race 2 at Eldora is done. I read it seems extreme. No tailgating? Why go. 2 or 3 days of racing 1st, camping/tailgating, and friends is why I go. I love the fact that racing events are outside. I only hope this is not adopted by other clubs and facilities. If it is, by by to my favorite sport sadly.

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My belief is that these documents were put out to help our sport police itself. There are plenty of promoters who left in a vacuum would have gone forward with no policies in place at all. Now we have a starting point. I also think that these guidelines will adapt and grow as other sports come back. The 800 lb gorilla in the room is the NFL. If the NFL lives with rules like these, then we will have little recourse. However, if the NFL brings back tailgating and packed grandstands, we will follow.

Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
Does this mean tracks will have to have running water in the bathrooms?

Next thing you know you’ll have to have a roof on the bathroom what is this world coming to🙂

It would seem we are forgetting some basic information. 1. There is still a deadly virus among us. 2. We do not know who is actually carrying it 3. We do not know all the ways it may be transmitted. 4. We do not know how long it can be active 5. We have no verified treatment or a vaccine. Patience is our most effective strategy for now, so that hopefully we can enjoy life in all its manifestations in the not too distant future.

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Originally Posted by captrat:
It would seem we are forgetting some basic information. 1. There is still a deadly virus among us. 2. We do not know who is actually carrying it 3. We do not know all the ways it may be transmitted. 4. We do not know how long it can be active 5. We have no verified treatment or a vaccine. Patience is our most effective strategy for now, so that hopefully we can enjoy life in all its manifestations in the not too distant future.

sounds like the yearly flu.

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Originally Posted by sp6967:
sounds like the yearly flu.

I doubt that the 55,000 dead would agree with you.

I doubt that my friend who is now in a rehab center would agree with you.

I could go on. C'mon people. This sucks big time, but it's REAL.

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Originally Posted by captrat:
It would seem we are forgetting some basic information. 1. There is still a deadly virus among us. 2. We do not know who is actually carrying it 3. We do not know all the ways it may be transmitted. 4. We do not know how long it can be active 5. We have no verified treatment or a vaccine. Patience is our most effective strategy for now, so that hopefully we can enjoy life in all its manifestations in the not too distant future.

Very well said and I am in agreement, cap. We are shooting at a moving target. I just think of this WoO press release as the first attempt to educate the fans and competitors as to how we are going to shoot. It will be interesting to see how other sports address this.

I will give the WoO a lot of credit here. If you discard any sporting group, such as the NBA, PGA, etc., that will "perform" with no fans and only via TV, media, or internet, WoO has been the first to step up to the stage to address fans in attendance. We are all going to have to adjust from here on out and keep adjusting thereafter.

I hope you bud gets on the upswing, fish my friend.

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Originally Posted by sp6967:
sounds like the yearly flu.

I understand your frustration with this, 6967. I may not agree with you but frustration and push back of the sort is yet another issue associated with this pandemic that our society has to address. There have been protests in at least two states at their Capitols and possibly more to come. Anyone who turns a blind eye to this is fooling themselves for this could become a snowball rolling downhill for everyone on the outside (unemployed/frustrated) looking in. Civil unrest is rarely good.

Am I preaching to the choir or has the choir left?

I just wish to reiterate that I do not agree, but I recognize the stance of the other side of the line.

Originally Posted by sp6967:
sounds like the yearly flu.

It is not the yearly flu. We can get an annual inoculation for the flu. We now are approaching 1 million cases, and 55,000 deaths in the 3 month time frame. The yearly flu and Covid-19 are not comparable

I feel for all of us. We are in the same boat. To some what bring this back to woo races. So if I owned a race track would I book, pay in advance for a race. Sounds like you could not sell a ticket for every seat. Limited food sales. No tee shirt sales. Would think that will put a big hurt on race teams.

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I still use cash!

Originally Posted by jonboat15:
Interesting rules to say the least. Am I the only dinosaur left still using cash? If the government would eliminate cash and require a card for everything we could have the worst data breach ever. I like using cash always have. No tailgating at the races, no beer, and no reserved seats. I already paid for my yearly seat, no I don't expect a refund, I would just like to use my seat when the tracks open. I was never a big fan of the WoO and their making the rules for everyone else to comply with

Originally Posted by captrat:
It is not the yearly flu. We can get an annual inoculation for the flu. We now are approaching 1 million cases, and 55,000 deaths in the 3 month time frame. The yearly flu and Covid-19 are not comparable

Well thank you for that same info the tv tells the people at night which sends them under there bed with there thumb in there mouth.

Quick question for racer X. If the Martian came from the moon wouldn’t it make him moontian or did he just stop there on the way to earth?😉
I sure hope Mike is right and this is basically a draft as a start to more reasonable measures. I don’t know who to believe entirely but I believe there are agendas by some that’s not in the best interest of most Americans. Just a tidbit, you don’t have to go very far to find out a significant number of deaths are being relabeled as not from the pandemic

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
Just a tidbit, you don’t have to go very far to find out a significant number of deaths are being relabeled as not from the pandemic

And that argument is getting tiresome too.

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Be careful about posting on moontians, that may be culture insensitive. Just kidding ,,LOL,,

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If that Moontian stopped anywhere in PA he might be a posse member.

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if woo tries this and pay per view numbers are down, and the tracks aren't allowed to sell enough tickets to cover costs will they try and raise back gate prices to cover costs?

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Something would have to give. Either increased PPV revenue, higher ticket cost, higher back gate, lower sanction fee's, reduced purse, bigger sponsors or likely a crazy combination of all of them.

So whether the WOO rules are used or not you are basically going to have X's all over for people standing in line, Enough hand washing/ sanitizing stations, masks available for those that don't bring one and X's on your grandstand seats every six feet. Now if you only can use one seat every six feet and have two empty rows in between goin up and down my math says you have lost better than 2/3rd's of your potential ticket sales.

I can see less than 1000 seats being available for most Woo events. With concessions likely being down equally as much your going to have to make up somewhere. Limited tickets will probably sell out quick ahead of time. I know I will make sure to get mine right away.

Under these stipulations I have seen my last Outlaws race last year. It was a good run.

Bob,what,no WoO fenders on May 30th??😳

Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Bob,what,no WoO fenders on May 30th??😳

Yes Dan, Shocking as it is, think we’ll pass unless sumthin changes. Hope all is well around Bton.

Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
Yes Dan, Shocking as it is, think we’ll pass unless sumthin changes. Hope all is well around Bton.

Yes Sir,all is well as it can be,waiting for Friday to see what the Gov has say.
Ready to return to whatever the new normal will be and to see some dirt fly.

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Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
Under these stipulations I have seen my last Outlaws race.....

As currently written, I am unfortunately in the same boat.

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I just heard a rumor that the big league stick and ball sports and NCAA want to socially distance by allowing for a "50%" admission/ticket sales. They feel this would allow for some profit or break even. Quick, every track put up 8,000 new bleachers to raise capacity and then sell your typical gate admissions. The new normal race track is the old normal. Only half kidding! See you soon.

Quit trying to tell us how to live. We get it wear a mask wash you hands dont be touching anyone. If you are scared stay home. Take you vitamin C and Zinc and you might be fine.

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So does Coleman make a cooler that’s 6 feet long? WoO not gonna tell me I can’t bring beer into TSS, only Tommy can do that as far as I’m concerned. Is there gonna be tailgate police circling the track? Think a lot of their wish list is to cover their own rear and totally ridiculous and unrealistic. Let’s just hope USAC doesn't try to follow suit. I wouldn’t be happy if I drove several hours to a track only to find out that’s it’s a 1/3 full and you can’t get in. Definitely won’t be traveling if these rules are in effect.

Originally Posted by captrat:
It would seem we are forgetting some basic information. 1. There is still a deadly virus among us. 2. We do not know who is actually carrying it 3. We do not know all the ways it may be transmitted. 4. We do not know how long it can be active 5. We have no verified treatment or a vaccine. Patience is our most effective strategy for now, so that hopefully we can enjoy life in all its manifestations in the not too distant future.

There is now much known about this virus. From US and global information it appears the death rate of this virus is less than 1%, probably higher than the flu but not nearly as bad as early projections. We know it is the old and especially older with other conditions who are vulnerable. The younger folks carry next to no risk of death. I think it is pretty clear how this can be spread. What is unclear is have the measures the US taken actually been successful. It is impossible to stop a virus, we may never get a successful vaccine (hopefully that is wrong but there has never been a successful vaccine developed for a Corona virus), so the virus may have to run its course. The vulnerable in this society are going to need to protect themselves for some time. Unfortunately, fans of sprint car racing largely fall into the vulnerable group. I think we are now beyond the medical portion of this virus and have moved into the legal phase. Every business and sport are now weighing the risk of lawsuits and what rules can be put into place for mitigation.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Yes Sir,all is well as it can be,waiting for Friday to see what the Gov has say.
Ready to return to whatever the new normal will be and to see some dirt fly.

What I am hearing is the governor will open the state in three phases and this is how it may effect racing in Indiana. Phase one is no spectators at the track and limited pit personal. Obviously these would have to be pay per view special events. USAC may begin doing this. Phase 2 two will allow a limited number of fans in, so a local promoter will have to make a big decision here if there's no pay per view to help pay for his purse. Phase three would let everybody back in. If we get to phase three it would be a matter of when. if it becomes to late in the summer a local promoter may as well just shut down in season. Not trying to spread any rumors but this is what I've been hearing from a couple who should know. We'll see what actually happens and hope for the best!