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Larson FIRED!!
It's official: Kyle Larson has been fired by Chip Ganassi Racing
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Once sponsors began to pull out, we all saw this coming. Hopefully, he can work his way back to Nascar or get a ride for the Indy 500 one year. While I'm glad we will see him back at the short tracks, I didn't think it would be this way.
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Who's to say you're going to see him back at the short tracks? No sponsors are going to touch him for quite some time. Unless his dad fields a car I'd say he's done for a couple years. Then again, there isn't going to be any racing this year anyway.
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Originally Posted by jdull99: |
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Originally Posted by jim goerge: |
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Originally Posted by Wayne Davis: |
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Originally Posted by jim goerge: |
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What has happened to this world? Who did he really offend? Is the world so screwed up that any and every stupid thing someone says must to be taken as the only thing that person thinks or believes? Does anyone really think that he is the only one in "NASCAR world" that has said this? Just because a "hot mic" caught his language, now he is unwelcome in civilized society? Get real! This is a bunch of garbage, just like the rest of NASCAR and what used to be something fun to watch. I had lost interest before, but this really puts it over the top for me. So long NASCAR. You won't be missed.
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I'd say McDonald's and Chip will be the biggest loosers.
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Originally Posted by Midget98: |
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i'm sure there's plenty of sprint car owners that would welcome him with open arms.
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Finey Farms has stated they will still sponsor him.
WoO just released a statement that Kyle must pass sensitivity training and he will be allowed to compete upon completion. And that Kyles full time WoO team is under no restriction. While I don't know if he'll be able to field a car for someone else. He's good enough that between winnings and merch sales he could probably be profitable in WoO. My opinion is what he said was wrong and inexcusable. However I think the reaction is way over the top. Not even the chance given to make things right, Like setting up minority scholarships, community service in minority areas etc. IDK, just a raw deal all around and I racing can do you know what to itself. There's other options. |
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Originally Posted by sp6967: |
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I think this has a lot to do with Chip...He never has paid top dollar for his drivers...this is way he can separate himself without looking cheap...He could not or would not get into a bidding war for Kyle with Stewart or Hendricks...I am thinking McD's called and said we have a problem and Chip was thinking this is his way out, while keeping a sponsor..I also think mountain out of mole hill- Iracing? who really or how many watch?....and this will all be forgotten soon....Kyle maybe cheaper now for Stewart to sign but company's will want to be on a young winning car..either way....
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Originally Posted by interpreter66: |
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Originally Posted by stockracer: |
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Dixon's salary is only around 4mil a year Kyle's is over twice that..Indy car doesnt pay....and would you leave anything to drive for Mclaren?
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Oh, the irony......
************ McDonald's China apologizes for banning black people from a store By Jordan Valinsky, CNN Business Updated 11:56 AM ET, Tue April 14, 2020 New York (CNN Business)McDonald's is in damage control mode after a restaurant in China displayed a sign banning black people from the premises. The sign, which recently circulated on social media, said the McDonald's location in Guangzhou has "been informed that from now on black people are not allowed to enter the restaurant." The sign is "not representative of our inclusive values," McDonald's said in a statement. The sign was removed and the location was temporarily closed down. CNN has not yet been able to authenticate the video. The industrial city has been steeped in racial tensions between Africans and locals. Recent warnings from Chinese officials about the rising number of imported coronavirus cases have stoked anti-foreigner sentiment. Africans in the southern Chinese city have been evicted from their homes by landlords and turned away from hotels, despite many claiming to have no recent travel history or known contact with Covid-19 patients. McDonald's (MCD) said it will use the closure to "further educate managers and employees on our values, which includes serving all members of the communities in which we operate." Guangzhou has long had the largest African community in China. Because many Africans in the city have short-term business visas, they travel into China several times a year, making it difficult to calculate the size of the African population the city. But in 2017, approximately 320,000 Africans entered or left China through Guangzhou, according to Xinhua. This isn't the first time McDonald's garnered controversy overseas. Last November, it pulled an ad in Portugal that used the words "Sundae Bloody Sundae" to promote a Halloween dessert. Bloody Sunday is the name for the day in 1972 on which British soldiers shot unarmed protesters in Derry, Northern Ireland, during the Troubles -- resulting in 14 deaths. The coronavirus has been detrimental McDonald's business this year. Last week, it reported that sales at restaurants open at least a year plunged more than 22% in March, led by a nearly 35% decline in its internationally operated markets. --CNN's Rory Sullivan, Jenni Marsh, Shawn Deng and Nectar Gan contributed to this report. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/busin...rnd/index.html |
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^ I saw that headline & clicked on it too...was hoping it was an apology for their part in this whole Larson deal...but good point...very ironic...
There is smthn of the such from Lucas Oil too (who also severed their ties with Kyle)...it was circling FB & idk how to copy it, but Forest (or watver his name is) had some not so nice things to say a few years back...according to that info...I will leave it up to the IoW commentators if they believe it is true or not (I actly hope it was not) |
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Originally Posted by stockracer: |
I believe he has his own race team and Finley farms are sticking with him
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Originally Posted by huskermudd: Let's hope Tony/Haas hire him & they put a Ford engine in the thing tho...if we ever go back racing again... I'd like to think Toyota missed him and they'd let him run their midgets again too...(maybe he could spear-head Toyota's entry into sprint cars? I haven't noticed them running those much?) |
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This is what Political Correctness has don to our society. It is a joke and it is seriously flawed. The whole White Privilege and Black People Cant be racist and Black People can call whites cracker and use the N word But White people cant use the N word is all ********. This is what Liberals have done and will continue to do to this society. They have taken Racism so far that they have made every person that is White a Racist just because we are white. Its pathetic and I ignore the BS and think for myself. Something that is lost to the majority of people in this Country. They are trying to re write the history of this country and bury anyone and anything that has to do with Race and punish really good people that dont deserve to be. This has gone way to far and its going to get worse unless people wake up
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Strangely enough, I know black people who are offended by other blacks using the N word. And not using the N word is a pretty low bar to set for keeping your job. When your job is mostly PR, just don't offend your sponsors, is it really that hard.
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Originally Posted by nodoors: |
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Originally Posted by TQ29m: |
You know which one of the sponsorship loses I find most disheartening is Lucas Oil. It’s hard for me to criticize Lucas after all they’ve done in racing, promotions and sponsorship but to cut ties with the guy who just put their colors in victory lane in one of the biggest short track race’s in the world seems harsh. I’m sure all of his former sponsors will be fine without my money, I just hope I’m not the only one who will be choosing to spend money other places and products than the one’s who overreacted to a good person making a stupid mistake
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Context and accountability are important here. NASCAR has a history of being a redneck Southern sport. They have tried hard to overcome this image to attract a broader fan base and sponsorship. Kyle owns this, he threw this word out there so he must call his friends that with some frequency. It doesn’t take a lot of brains to understand this word is completely unacceptable for a non-black to use and that doing so puts your life dream at risk. Regardless of what anyone thinks about political correctness he knows the consequences of using this word and now he pays. I don’t know if he should be fired but the sponsors have the right to pull their deal. The whole reason for sponsorship is to attract customers, hard to do when your driver is offending customers. I have been a fan of his but there is no defending what he said, it was stupid, he knows better, and now he must rebuild his reputation. No sense railing against our culture today, it is what it is and violating the norms carries consequences.
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TUMEYS 55
"No sense railing against our culture today, it is what it is and violating the norms carries consequences" Please elaborate what you mean by "NORMS" that is a broad statement and needs to be explained fully. Whats "NORMAL" for me may or may not be "NORMAL" to you, so I would like some clarification on this |
Originally Posted by nodoors: |
I should add that on most fan sites a couple of the posts above, using racist language, would get you banned. There is freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences of that speech.
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Correction, the posts with racist comments may have been in the other thread and appear to be gone now.
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Originally Posted by Tumey's 55: So what you are saying is DOUBLE STANDARDS are ok, I understand now |
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Originally Posted by nodoors: Here are the current "norms" as I see them: I know of no large, publicly traded organization that does not require some sort of diversity/inclusion training beginning at the highest levels of the organization and passing down to the entry level personnel. My first encounter with such training was prior to 1990. This training is meant to educate all personnel as to what offends each facet of our society and what consequences will occur should these rules be broken. I have gone through this training multiple times due to changing employers as well as the fact that what offends has been an evolving target. Mr. Larson's offense was the first item discussed in the initial training. These publicly traded organizations are not only tasked with keeping their customer happy and buying their products, they are also tasked with keeping their investors happy and investing in their organization. I previously thought that the customers of any particular CEO was the folks that bought their product. I was educated a few years ago, however, that the actual customer of the CEO is the investor, and he will do whatever he must to keep that investor because, quite frankly, they cannot continue to exist without investors. And remember, investors include all sectors of society, not only the customers that use the particular product. This means that many more people can be offended by what a company "spokesperson" says, which may put investor relations in some jeopardy. While it is easy to throw the CGR organization under the bus for firing Mr. Larson, let's examine a bit further. I believe we can agree that the 42 team cannot compete without sponsorship. The corporations sponsoring the team are by and large publicly traded organizations with the above-mentioned tasks/goals in mind at all times. If CGR decides to back Mr. Larson against the sponsors' desires and the sponsors pull out, the 42 team's longevity is in peril. Should folding of the team result it not only affects the driver but perhaps a few dozen other CGR personnel and their livelihoods. The question this presents to the organization is whether backing one person is worth the risk to a few dozen other team members and their families. So, this is the "norm" as I currently see it. Folks may not like it but it is the reality at this time. Whether it is "fair" or not will be debated forever but, as a comparison, in American football it is probably not "fair" for the defense to be able to run all over their side of the field prior to the snap while the offense must be set (other than one person) but, that is the rules of the game. And you either follow the rules or find another game to play. As I see it. Tim Simmons |
I think I agree with this approach, but it takes a lot of years, being able to over look the other way. It all involves money, bottom line. A company can not grow without investors, here's where the stock market gets involved, the more tickets are sold, the more money is filtered down to the investors pocket, like it or not, that's where it ends up, and that's why when something happens like this, the trickle down doesn't get to the bottom of the investors, some call it stocks and bonds, others just pay a broker to handle it, and it just gets worse, till the investors are only interested in the profit side, and lose interest rapid travel if they no longer have have big dividend checks rolling in, to be able to retire like so many do. I got somewhat interested in this several years ago, when I became a full fleged business owner, I had been given one stock share in a company my mother worked for, worth just under 7 bucks, but thru the way it works, 30 years later it had grown to something I could use, but, having been busy with the business, I hadn't kept up with what was going on, and tho my meager investment had indeed grown, in a whipstitch it was gone, along with my original 7 bucks, so much for that, but that's how it works, you need money to make money, so what happens along the way, looses it's value, and in most cases, money becomes the winner. Just saying.
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