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Longtime sprinter 7/21/19 8:16 PM

Lburg, sprint week
 
Anyone at the burg, that can give some results? Or is it raining there?

Chuckwells 7/21/19 8:28 PM

Can’t believe there are no updates on here or their social media.

IndianaSprintFan 7/21/19 8:42 PM

Usac website has full twitter updates on it and even some short video clips. 30 cars here

duel 7/21/19 8:45 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 
Watching at home. 30 cars. heats are over, Leary quick time. Track rough but fast.

racefan20 7/21/19 9:16 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 
Go to race monitor website to watch timing and scoring

wildman92 7/21/19 9:16 PM

Feature pushing now. Great job moving this program along as weather is in the area.

wildman92 7/21/19 9:43 PM

Finish : Grant Windom Leary KTJ

As it starts to rain....nice job Lawrenceburg and USAC!!

reeserx 7/21/19 10:44 PM

Sat in the main grandstands and did not get a speck of dust on me all night, fast moving show and glad to get the show in!

Charles Nungester 7/21/19 11:30 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 
kudos for moving the show along, there was rain around all night, A front I figured would hit about 9. Well 945 the checker dropped and the rain came.

Honest, one of the worst races I ever seen. Grant and windom were gone, really never got too close to each other after the first half. Good battle over third for Leary, Short, KTj, Bacon.

BUT I SEEN A RACE that I wasn't sure was going to happen, good crowd, good time.

Glad everyone is safe, hope everyone gets where they're going safe.

Kydehart 7/21/19 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
kudos for moving the show along, there was rain around all night, A front I figured would hit about 9. Well 945 the checker dropped and the rain came.

Honest, one of the worst races I ever seen. Grant and windom were gone, really never got too close to each other after the first half. Good battle over third for Leary, Short, KTj, Bacon.

BUT I SEEN A RACE that I wasn't sure was going to happen, good crowd, good time.

Glad everyone is safe, hope everyone gets where they're going safe.

I don’t think the race was bad. And a couple heat races were excellent. Definitely no instant classic and there was zero race for 1st or 2nd, that’s true.

But like you said, I’m just happy I got to see a race I didn’t expect to. Between the weather and the fact that I was originally supposed to work I didn’t expect to see this race at all. All in all it was a good night.

Charles Nungester 7/21/19 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kydehart:
I don’t think the race was bad. And a couple heat races were excellent. Definitely no instant classic and there was zero race for 1st or 2nd, that’s true.

But like you said, I’m just happy I got to see a race I didn’t expect to. Between the weather and the fact that I was originally supposed to work I didn’t expect to see this race at all. All in all it was a good night.

Trust me, it wasn't meant as a bash. If teams had more time, might have been different, if there'd been proper time to water and run in, may have been different.

However, Like said, Weather emminent! Show done from anthem to checker in 1:45

Leroy Jenkins 7/22/19 12:08 AM

Lowest car count of sprint week so far as usual at the burg, shocker

smith19 7/22/19 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins:
Lowest car count of sprint week so far as usual at the burg, shocker

is it because of the huge 3/8 mile track. just asking for a friend...

Leroy Jenkins 7/22/19 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by smith19:
is it because of the huge 3/8 mile track. just asking for a friend...

Probably because it's always so rough

Kydehart 7/22/19 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins:
Probably because it's always so rough

I know you’re just here to troll but the burg has been one of the smoothest tracks in the state this year. The new dirt has cut down tremendously on the bumps getting into the corners.

IndianaSprintFan 7/22/19 1:32 AM

I thought it was a pretty good race. The battle for 3-6 was pretty wild at times. Car count was pretty disappointing. Normally doesn’t bother me but something about 30 cars for ISW kinda stinks. That’s about the lowest I can ever remember outside of Terre Haute

Gregg 7/22/19 7:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins:
You are delusional

I will take Buzzkills for $1000, Alex.

Wingman 7/22/19 7:53 AM

L-Burg did a great job moving the program along. I thought it was not going to happen after the flip in turn 4. Track condition was good. I got home expecting to shake dust off my clothes. No dust at all.

The race was a parade. I probably was most impressed with Carson Short. He was mixing it up with the big money teams up front. He is a wheelman.

Rob11 7/22/19 8:02 AM

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On the road by 10. It made our gamble a good one. As has been mentioned, it was a great job by the decision makers to get it in before the rain. Did the Mods get to run their feature?

nodramazone20 7/22/19 3:58 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 
Agreed, well done by those involved getting the race in....A few observations:

The jumping of the starts at the NOS can needs to be fixed. I think at least 2 of the 4 heats had to restart, and that takes extra time in a situation they did not have time. Penalize the one who jumped without a warning and this will take care of that.

Heat Races take way too long to line up and run. Push off, run a lap, then get in line and go green...Again, wasting time you did not have last night.

The running of the B between Mod heats was outstanding and should be done more often..IMO

The point is this, show should have been over 15 - 20 min earlier if these 'little things" can get cleaned up.

All and all, very good show

Sandy Lowe 7/22/19 4:31 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 

Originally Posted by Rob11:
On the road by 10. It made our gamble a good one. As has been mentioned, it was a great job by the decision makers to get it in before the rain. Did the Mods get to run their feature?

The sprint feature checkered at 9:42 and after a brief rain delay and running the track in we rolled out the modifieds at 10:10. They helped finish working the track in, we went green at 10:15 and checkered at 10:36.

KC Burdette won the KOI Auto Parts UMP Modified feature over David Webb, Cory Skipton, David Spille, and Matt Hamilton.

Sandy Lowe 7/22/19 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nodramazone20:
Heat Races take way too long to line up and run. Push off, run a lap, then get in line and go green...Again, wasting time you did not have last night.

SPRINT HOT LAP 1
7:02 pm first sprint pushed off
7:04 pm green flag
7:06 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT HOT LAP 2
7:07 pm first sprint pushed off
7:10 pm green flag
7:11 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT HOT LAP 3
7:13 pm first sprint pushed off
7:15 pm green flag
7:17 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT QUALIFYING
7:19 pm first car took green
7:49 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HOT LAP 1
7:51 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
7:53 pm green flag
7:54 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HOT LAP 2
7:54 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
7:55 pm green flag
7:56 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HOT LAP 3
7:57 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
7:58 pm green flag
7:59 pm last car took checkers

QUICK TIME INTERVIEW WITH LEARY

OPENING CEREMONIES
8:01 pm start
8:04 pm end

SPRINT HEAT 1
8:08 pm first sprint pushed off
8:11 pm green flag
8:14 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT HEAT 2
8: 16 pm first sprint pushed off
8:18 pm green flag
8:22 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT HEAT 3
8:24 pm first sprint pushed off
8:25 pm green flag
8:29 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT HEAT 4
8:30 pm first sprint pushed off
8:32 pm green flag
8:35 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HEAT 1
8:37 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
8:38 pm green flag
8:44 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HEAT 2
8:45 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
8:47 pm green flag
8:49 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT SEMI FEATURE
8:51 pm first sprint pushed off
8:54 pm green flag
8:57 pm last car took checkers

MODIFIED HEAT 3
8:59 pm modifieds rolled onto the track
9:01 pm green flag
9:06 pm last car took checkers

SPRINT FEATURE
9:08 pm roll sprint cars onto the track
9:14 pm first sprint pushed off
9:19 pm green flag
9:42 pm last car took checkers

RAIN

MODIFIED FEATURE
10:10 pm modified rolled onto the track to help run in
10:15 pm green flag
10:36 pm last car took checkers

I'm not sure there were many places last night (other than the rain delay) where you could have run the program much quicker. Great job by USAC, track officials, competitors, push trucks, etc. for hustling last night to beat the rain.

Charles Nungester 7/22/19 4:59 PM

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I wouldn't have changed a thing but the weather.
I know everyone see's thing their own way and that's ok.

The track wasn't rough, There's a dip going into three. It was heavy and ripping the lip after the track widened out never slowed enough to make the bottom competitive.

Car count, There's about five cars destroyed before tonight, Boespflug out Hazen Out a couple others, Ballou with a bad wing (Pardon the pun)

The track does have something to do with it and I don't think it has anything to do with how well guys can race, There's been low budget teams beatng Andretti and other bigger teams that show from time to time for the last two years.

ITS QUALIFYING At least ten of them cars have a hammer motor, new rears and some say why bother if the best I could ever start is outside the top ten. It is what it is. The guys up front have a ton of laps at the Burg, That being said, to become the best, you gotta run with the best and if you get good at the burg and Terre Haute, You'll be good anywhere.

Had a great time, Thanks going to see if i can make one of the remaining races.

The Mod race is on the FLORacing replay

PIT CART 7/22/19 6:24 PM

Glad I went, I think the track did everything they could to get the show in. I can't believe they offer free water and electricity to the campers.

captrat 7/22/19 7:28 PM

Originally Posted by nodramazone20:
Agreed, well done by those involved getting the race in....A few observations:

The jumping of the starts at the NOS can needs to be fixed. I think at least 2 of the 4 heats had to restart, and that takes extra time in a situation they did not have time. Penalize the one who jumped without a warning and this will take care of that.

Heat Races take way too long to line up and run. Push off, run a lap, then get in line and go green...Again, wasting time you did not have last night.

The running of the B between Mod heats was outstanding and should be done more often..IMO

The point is this, show should have been over 15 - 20 min earlier if these 'little things" can get cleaned up.

All and all, very good show

Come on man, what do you want? A 24 second shot clock!

BrentTFunk 7/22/19 8:25 PM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 

Originally Posted by nodramazone20:
Agreed, well done by those involved getting the race in....A few observations:

The jumping of the starts at the NOS can needs to be fixed. I think at least 2 of the 4 heats had to restart, and that takes extra time in a situation they did not have time. Penalize the one who jumped without a warning and this will take care of that.

Heat Races take way too long to line up and run. Push off, run a lap, then get in line and go green...Again, wasting time you did not have last night.

The running of the B between Mod heats was outstanding and should be done more often..IMO

The point is this, show should have been over 15 - 20 min earlier if these 'little things" can get cleaned up.

All and all, very good show

I thought it was a very efficient show. Are you sure you didn't mean all drama zone?

on_the_edge 7/23/19 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I wouldn't have changed a thing but the weather.
I know everyone see's thing their own way and that's ok.

The track wasn't rough, There's a dip going into three. It was heavy and ripping the lip after the track widened out never slowed enough to make the bottom competitive.

Car count, There's about five cars destroyed before tonight, Boespflug out Hazen Out a couple others, Ballou with a bad wing (Pardon the pun)

The track does have something to do with it and I don't think it has anything to do with how well guys can race, There's been low budget teams beatng Andretti and other bigger teams that show from time to time for the last two years.

ITS QUALIFYING At least ten of them cars have a hammer motor, new rears and some say why bother if the best I could ever start is outside the top ten. It is what it is. The guys up front have a ton of laps at the Burg, That being said, to become the best, you gotta run with the best and if you get good at the burg and Terre Haute, You'll be good anywhere.

Had a great time, Thanks going to see if i can make one of the remaining races.

The Mod race is on the FLORacing replay

I don't wanna be negative Nancy but that track last night was best suited for a Motocross race. Roughest I have seen it in awhile, holes and craters all over it, the cars were bouncing almost at every part of the track. Not that it was a bad race but to say it wasn't rough must mean you were watching a race somewhere else.

Kydehart 7/23/19 1:32 AM

Originally Posted by on_the_edge:
I don't wanna be negative Nancy but that track last night was best suited for a Motocross race. Roughest I have seen it in awhile, holes and craters all over it, the cars were bouncing almost at every part of the track. Not that it was a bad race but to say it wasn't rough must mean you were watching a race somewhere else.

Honestly wasn’t that rough. It’s been way rougher than that. Really. It was wet and top dominant on the cushion all night which made passing hard. You might call it rough for a wing track maybe. But traditional cars have to be able to work through some bumps. Really efficient show though. They’ll get no complaints from me.

reeserx 7/23/19 2:12 AM

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
kudos for moving the show along, there was rain around all night, A front I figured would hit about 9. Well 945 the checker dropped and the rain came.

Honest, one of the worst races I ever seen. Grant and windom were gone, really never got too close to each other after the first half. Good battle over third for Leary, Short, KTj, Bacon.

BUT I SEEN A RACE that I wasn't sure was going to happen, good crowd, good time.

Glad everyone is safe, hope everyone gets where they're going safe.

After I had some time to think and rewatch the race a bit, this is honestly just a question for debate, not trying to stir anything up or cause fights, there were a few laps that Windom had a chance to throw a 3 story slide job on grant and he didn’t do it. Do you think if he didn’t have that mishap with bacon where he chopped him pretty good to win at Kokomo, he would of thrown a few haymakers sliders at grant? I mean grants car was hooked up and they wouldn’t of likely stuck but just food for thought

hoosierboy3 7/23/19 2:20 AM

The incident with Bacon definitely isn’t the first one for Windom so I doubt that’s what stopped him

Charles Nungester 7/23/19 9:46 AM

Re: Lburg, sprint week
 
I really don't know what to say, The track was heavier than it's been the other times i've went this year, Remember I missed a few being in the hospital or not feeling well. At least two of em I went too the track was almost too smooth. The one Ballou won and the one JJ Hughes won, I wasn't there but Im told it was great at the Ballou win race.


The sport has changed and changed a lot, The cars are so much tighter. Used to be people like Stanley, Jones and others would have blasted above that cushion and after a couple laps, had their own groove wore in. Last I seen it was Josh Hodges a couple years ago two or three times at the Soudrette and Gaines memorials. Garrett Abrams and Gulick would try all different kinds of lines and I've even seen Windom go in on the wall in one and make a huge straight out of two and the back straight. Midgets weeks have been bottom to wall and three story sliders.


Just seems like sometimes it's either faster or safer to just to run the just below the cushion or that nobody's willing to vear from that line.

As for Windom having a chance? IDK he pulled even a couple times but it wasn't at times he had a run going in.

Midgets changed a long time ago, It's momentum racing and if your even, you don't let off. Honestly hate to see Sprints coming to that.

Bacon didn't have a lot of time to work on the car after the heat rear end problem. but like I said all them guys up front have a ton of laps on the Burg. Grant used to come down with Hery's car all the time and even with Baldwin, Short ran with us all year a couple years back. Windom started on the old track, Leary came down ran a few did well and won the championship and comes on off USAC nights sometimes. Bacon all the USAC shows and a few others with Hoffman Test or other cars, Was here midget week with the 410 car sprint.

I love this sport and like I said in another post, everyone see's it their own way. I honestly don't like the glass smooth tracks very much, Maybe why THAT, LPS, BURG, a heavy Bloomington, Portsmouth RWP are some of my favorites. It usually means all the cars out there aren't just running qualifying laps, But actually searching and finding faster lines.

All in all, Like the original post. I seen a race, It was run efficiently and some tracks would have canceled on forecast alone (Maybe not sprint week) but I've seen it done way too often. 2006 Sprint Week, there was a 100% chance of rain at the burg, Dozens of campers, thousands of fans and they cancelled due to a line of storms across IN that never hit. (Not this promotor)

Thanks Rudy and Kim. for a great night. See you at LPS!

Rob11 7/23/19 12:57 PM

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Outstanding!


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