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SUPERDUKE 11/9/08 2:41 AM

Kevin swidell wins western
 
KEVIN 2 COONS 3 LEVI 4 DARLAND JESS DROPS OUT LEADING WITH 5 LAPS TO GO!:thumb

racephoto1 11/9/08 2:43 AM

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Boy do I wish I had gone this year. That was a helluva show. Too bad Hockett fireballed it. There wasn't anything on the track Kevin didn't hit.

D.O. 11/9/08 2:54 AM

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What a RACE !!!

I'm sure the Swindell fans & non-fans will be at it.
He did slide and beat his way past some cars. Missed the pace car on the track.
But what a race he drove. He fits in the Biggest Ball thread after tonight.
Hockett was looking good to the flame out. It would of been a hell of a finish !!
:dologob:

petey 11/9/08 3:36 AM

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I tuned into the live video late. Just saw Kevin slide into Hines to take the lead with a few laps to go. I'm just sorry to hear that the winners of Perris and Manzy beat their way to the front.:action-smiley-049:

Sprint63122 11/9/08 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by petey:
I tuned into the live video late. Just saw Kevin slide into Hines to take the lead with a few laps to go. I'm just sorry to hear that the winners of Perris and Manzy beat their way to the front.:action-smiley-049:

They passed hines at around the halfway point he was a non factor after that as usual.

racegal 11/9/08 5:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
KEVIN 2 COONS 3 LEVI 4 DARLAND JESS DROPS OUT LEADING WITH 5 LAPS TO GO!:thumb

Thank you!!:applaud:
Boy! It has been hard to get information the last two night!

6157 11/9/08 5:40 AM

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Originally Posted by racegal:
Thank you!!:applaud:
Boy! It has been hard to get information the last two night!

You've had live video and results on USAC's website the past two nights. How does getting the information get any easier?

Dwayne 11/9/08 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 6157:
You've had live video and results on USAC's website the past two nights. How does getting the information get any easier?

You assume everyone has the latest and greatest computers. I'm sure Susan has the same problems I have. We have antique operating systems(more than 6 months old) and live in an area where only dialup is available. We are at the mercy of someone posting results even if it is just copied from the USAC board.:headbang:headbang

tailtank 11/9/08 11:05 AM

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You people are something else.:kookoo Jones & Hines take each other out just a few days ago over a slide job and most of you called it hard racing. Put Kevin in there and he hits everything? Just go ahead and admit because his last name is Swindell you don't like him. It is sure apparent around here if your not in the "click" be prepared to be bashed. Kevin has admitted in the past he has made some mistakes publically but you guys keep harping on it......get over it. The kid can drive weither you want to admit it or not, so keep on crying.:crying:

Congrats to Kevin "the Bulldog" Swindell! Your fans are very proud of you.:thumb:checkered:

Geoff Kaiser 11/9/08 11:13 AM

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Amen! :respect:

dirtnonwingfan 11/9/08 11:22 AM

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Looks like Brett Burdette had good runs last night. Started in the "C" and ended up 14th in the "A". Congratulations, Brett!

Frank Daigh

Motormasher 11/9/08 12:37 PM

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Kind of gotta wonder what kind of fuel Hocket was running to make such a fire HUH???:confused:

NEDAPSH 11/9/08 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Motormasher:
Kind of gotta wonder what kind of fuel Hocket was running to make such a fire HUH???:confused:



Posted via Mobile Device that was the biggest blow up this year. If Hockett would have gotten to run the last few laps Kevin and Hockett would hsve crashed out and DD would have been the winner.

D.O. 11/9/08 12:49 PM

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LUCAS OIL USAC NATIONAL & USAC/CRA SPRINT CAR SERIES RACE RESULTS: November 8, 2008 – Phoenix, Arizona – Manzanita Speedway – 41st NAPA Auto Parts/Budweiser/Parker Store “Western World Championships”

“D” MAIN: (15 laps) 1. Matt Mitchell (#87 Mitchell), 2. Cody Williams (#3 Jory), 3. Alan Ballard (#75 Stansberry), 4. J.T. Imperial (#1x Imperial), 5. Damion Gardner (#71 Leffler), 6. Mike Leslie (#76 Montgomery), 7. Cole Carter (#7 Carter), 8. Gary Taylor (#5x Eubanks), 9. Chris Bonneau (#78 Bonneau), 10. Jon Stanbrough (#37 Riggs), 11. Bobby Marcum (#85 Marcum), 12. Chris Windom (#17 Windom). NT

“C” MAIN: (20 laps) 1. Brady Short (#36 Riggs), 2. Robert Ballou (#2a Smiley), 3. J.J. Yeley (#1H Triple Crown), 4. Brett Burdette (#17B Burdette), 5. Kyle Hirst (#3F Finkenbinder), 6. Johnny Herrera (#45x Herrera), 7. Nathan High (#12 Allen), 8. Tyler Brown (#96 Gardner), 9. Bonneau, 10. Mitchell, 11. Andrew Reinbold (#19x Reinbold), 12. Carter, 13. Bret Mellenberndt (#97 Mellenberndt), 14. Imperial, 15. Tony Jones (#4x Alexander), 16. Leslie, 17. Williams, 18. Ronnie Smith (#16F Mach-2), 19. Bob Ream Jr. (#8 BRAT), 20. Ballard, 21. Jeff Bland Jr. (#10T R & B), 22. Stanbrough. NT

“B” MAIN (Semi): (20 laps) 1. Dustin Morgan (#93x M & M), 2. Chad Boat (#30 Boat), 3. Darren Hagen (#10 R & B), 4. Charles Davis Jr. (#50az Massey), 5. Nic Faas (#117 Faas), 6. Shane Hmiel (#21B 2B Racing), 7. Thomas Meseraull (#5 Baldwin), 8. R.J. Johnson (#15 Martin), 9. Burdette, 10. Danny Sheridan (#18 Kittle), 11. Brady Bacon (#99 Kahne), 12. Rick Ziehl (#20z Ziehl), 13. Blake Miller (#93x Gardner), 14. Casey Shuman (#32x Foster), 15. Bill Rose (#66 Miller), 16. Short, 17. Herrera, 18. Seth Wilson (#17x Wilson), 19. Hirst, 20. Hunter Scheurenberg (#7x Priestley), 21. High, 22. Brown, 23. Ballou, 24. Yeley. NT

FEATURE: (40 laps) 1. Kevin Swindell (#10k Rolfe), 2. Jerry Coons Jr. (#69 Dynamics), 3. Levi Jones (#20 Stewart), 4. Dave Darland (#2B 2B Racing), 5. Jeremy Sherman (#77 Bryan), 6. Chad Boat, 7. Tracy Hines (#21 Stewart), 8. Brad Sweet (#9 Kahne), 9. Shane Cottle (#4 Contos), 10. Cole Whitt (#67k Kunz), 11. Darren Hagen, 12. Dustin Morgan, 13. Bud Kaeding (#29 BK), 14. Brett Burdette, 15. Mike Spencer (#50 Chaffin), 16. Danny Sheridan, 17. Brady Bacon, 18. Blake Miller, 19. R.J. Johnson, 20. Charles Davis Jr., 21. Shane Hmiel, 22. Thomas Meseraull, 23. Jesse Hockett (#2 McMillan), 24. Damion Gardner, 25. Tony Jones, 26. Nic Faas, 27. J.J. Yeley, 28. Rick Ziehl. NT

*Windom flipped during the D Main.

FEATURE LAP LEADERS: Laps 1-28 Hines, Laps 29-30 Hockett, Laps 31-33 Swindell, Laps 34-36 Hockett, Laps 37-40 Swindell.

FINAL USAC NATIONAL SPRINT CAR STANDINGS: 1-Coons-1,402; 2-Jones-1,316; 3-Hines-1,193; 4-Whitt-1,189; 5-Darland-1,059; 6-Hagen-1,051; 7-Cottle-1,046; 8-Sweet-1,023; 9-Bacon-953; 10-D.Gardner-944.

NEW LUCAS OIL USAC/CRA SPRINT CAR STANDINGS: 1-Spencer-1,535; 2-Miller-1,457; 3-Sheridan-1,406; 4-Jones-1,160; 5-Brown-1,068; 6-Garrett Hansen-1,039; 7-David Cardey-964; 8-Cory Kruseman-952; 9-Josh Ford-840; 10-Ballard-627.

NEXT LUCAS OIL USAC/CRA SPRINT CAR RACE: November 15 – Perris (Calif.) Auto Speedway – “Kindoll Classic”

Tripcrwn 11/9/08 1:09 PM

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I like Kevin Swindell and I like Sammy. Congratulations to the Bulldog!

ThaBurgFan 11/9/08 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtnonwingfan:
Looks like Brett Burdette had good runs last night. Started in the "C" and ended up 14th in the "A". Congratulations, Brett!

Frank Daigh

I second that Frank!! Great job Brett Burdette! You keep getting better and better. We are looking forward to watching at the Burg and hopefully some other tracks next year.

sprintartist 11/9/08 2:39 PM

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Hockett had a rock bend the spark plug protector on the right front and it bent back and smashed the spark plug causing it to break on lap 10 so the motor had been seizing up all night. They said it blew the rod down through the oil pan knocking it completely off.

TRUCKER D 11/9/08 2:59 PM

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What happend to MDC was he not racing last night

Flatrightrear 11/9/08 3:26 PM

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Nice win, Kevin. Hope to see you back in the midwest full-time next year. Tom

kylecumminsfan 11/9/08 4:28 PM

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the MDC trashed his car out the night before last.. took a wicked flip after getting into the wall..

racegal 11/9/08 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwayne:
You assume everyone has the latest and greatest computers. I'm sure Susan has the same problems I have. We have antique operating systems(more than 6 months old) and live in an area where only dialup is available. We are at the mercy of someone posting results even if it is just copied from the USAC board.:headbang:headbang

Yep!:( The last two nights all I had were the results of the Silver Crown race on my USAC site! Dial up SUX!!!! So, thank you for everyone who posts information for us!!
By the way, where did Dave D start? I heard he got the hard charger award but I don't have any idea where he started at! Thank you!

SUPERDUKE 11/9/08 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by racegal:
Yep!:( The last two nights all I had were the results of the Silver Crown race on my USAC site! Dial up SUX!!!! So, thank you for everyone who posts information for us!!
By the way, where did Dave D start? I heard he got the hard charger award but I don't have any idea where he started at! Thank you!

11TH:checkered:

racephoto1 11/9/08 7:15 PM

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Sorry guys, but when I see someone drive across the infield , and then hit a guy, it just seems a little more then hard racing. Back in the old days that would have been called a black eye or a bloody nose.:O::O::O:

Tripcrwn 11/9/08 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by racephoto1:
Sorry guys, but when I see someone drive across the infield , and then hit a guy, it just seems a little more then hard racing. Back in the old days that would have been called a black eye or a bloody nose.:O::O::O:

How about a little more information. It sounds as if you were at the race, if so please help some of us who were not there by providing additional details to your post. Thanks.

Hubie 11/9/08 9:23 PM

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I agree, racephoto, please elaborate

D.O. 11/9/08 9:31 PM

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It's worth watching again!!!!
Swindell and others drove deep enough to throw dust a few times.
There was some bangin' .
:dologob:

Butch47265 11/9/08 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by racephoto1:
sorry guys, but when i see someone drive across the infield , and then hit a guy, it just seems a little more then hard racing. Back in the old days that would have been called a black eye or a bloody nose.:o::o::o:

amen amen

racegal 11/9/08 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
11TH:checkered:

Thank you again SUPERDUKE!! You are SUPER!!!:respect::applaud:

Hawker 11/9/08 11:53 PM

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I watched both nights. Swindell was clearly the fastest car each night.

Congrats!

SUPERDUKE 11/10/08 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by racegal:
Thank you again SUPERDUKE!! You are SUPER!!!:respect::applaud:

JUST THE FACTS MAME! I WAS THERE!:checkered:

Racerrob 11/10/08 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by :
I watched both nights. Swindell was clearly the fastest car each night.

Hawker,

I would dispute that statement. Hockett and Coons were just as fast if not faster in the last 10 laps of the race.

There seems to be a perception among some drivers that a slide job that includes contact is acceptable. 20 years ago this kind of racing would have earned the offending driver a black eye or bloody nose. In our current era of political correctness and "time outs" for unacceptable behavior, there are no real consequences for this type of driving.

Unless the sanctioning body starts controlling the situation on the track or allows the drivers and crews to settle it in the pits we are going to continue to see an escalation of "rough driving" with the end result of somebody being seriously hurt. I don’t think anybody wants to see that happen.

Rob Hoffman

petey 11/10/08 10:41 AM

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:applaud:

Jerry Spencer 11/10/08 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Racerrob:
Hawker,

I would dispute that statement. Hockett and Coons were just as fast if not faster in the last 10 laps of the race.

There seems to be a perception among some drivers that a slide job that includes contact is acceptable. 20 years ago this kind of racing would have earned the offending driver a black eye or bloody nose. In our current era of political correctness and "time outs" for unacceptable behavior, there are no real consequences for this type of driving.

Unless the sanctioning body starts controlling the situation on the track or allows the drivers and crews to settle it in the pits we are going to continue to see an escalation of "rough driving" with the end result of somebody being seriously hurt. I don’t think anybody wants to see that happen.

Rob Hoffman

Very well said. :respect:

Jerry #66j
www.joshspencer.com

racefan20 11/10/08 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawker:
I watched both nights. Swindell was clearly the fastest car each night.

Congrats!

I was there both nights, Hockett was clearly the fastest car Saturday night, damn shame he had to ignite the engine as he was pulling away from Swindell for the win.

RichC 11/10/08 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by :
Unless the sanctioning body starts controlling the situation on the track or allows the drivers and crews to settle it in the pits we are going to continue to see an escalation of "rough driving" with the end result of somebody being seriously hurt. I don’t think anybody wants to see that happen.

I'd like to see that statement amended to exclude crews. I myself have watched members of the Hoffman family kicking/throwing stuff/behaving irrationally/etc after viewing events on the track and being way too upset to deal with these things in a postive manner. Too many crewmembers get wound up over events they see on the track and may be influenced by external forces. Crews have no business being involved in these disputes as they become nothing more than lynch mobs.
On the other hand, I say that if the drivers got themselves into this mess and if the drivers care to go at it with no outside help/influence then I say have at it.

Besides, how would Kroger look at it if the racing press circulated a picture of a bunch of people in HAR shirts in a melee. However if the drivers alone go at it then you have some degree of plausible deniability to sponsors, etc.

Racerrob 11/10/08 7:09 PM

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Originally Posted by :
I'd like to see that statement amended to exclude crews. I myself have watched members of the Hoffman family kicking/throwing stuff/behaving irrationally/etc after viewing events on the track and being way too upset to deal with these things in a postive manner. Too many crewmembers get wound up over events they see on the track and may be influenced by external forces. Crews have no business being involved in these disputes as they become nothing more than lynch mobs.
On the other hand, I say that if the drivers got themselves into this mess and if the drivers care to go at it with no outside help/influence then I say have at it.

Besides, how would Kroger look at it if the racing press circulated a picture of a bunch of people in HAR shirts in a melee. However if the drivers alone go at it then you have some degree of plausible deniability to sponsors, etc.

You may have witnessed me upset by on track action. I am only human after all and a fierce competitor. I make no apologies for any of MY actions. If you have seen me upset I probably had a good reason. I challenge you to ever point to an incident where you saw ME act irrationally. I cannot control the actions of others and therefore cannot and won't comment on their actions. If I do witness any of my crew out of line I take care of the matter internally not on this board.

I would like to point out that someone of say Jerry's or Brad Sweet's stature would forever be on the receiving end of rough driving by someone of say Hockett's or Levi's size as they would be horribly mismatched in a physical confrontation. Since they could not compete in a physical match up, it would stand to reason that the physically smaller drivers would seek to retaliate on the track leading to more rough driving.

I would further point out that although the driver is on the track and receives the lion's share of the attention, this is a TEAM sport. We win as team, lose as a team and get crashed as a team. When the driver craws from the wrecked race car (hopefully unhurt) it is usually the crew that has to put the pieces back together and the owner that foots the bill. So I believe the entire team should has a stake in the policing of rough driving.

As far as sponsors go, our team strives to represent them well on and off the track. I would hope that we would not have to be involved in any melee, but I am getting very tired of being on the receiving end of rough driving. Usually after one or two "confrontations" most drivers will learn it is not worth the pain to disrespect your fellow driver by driving over/through him and the owners will not hire those types of drivers.

I stand by my words and therefore always sign my name so you can come discuss my opinion with me.

Rob Hoffman

Joe Kidd 11/10/08 7:36 PM

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Maybe go back to racing 1/4 midgets if your afraid of a little car contact. :crying:

Nice job Kevin!!!:thumb

racefan20 11/10/08 7:44 PM

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Joe having been there and seeing all the contact that Mr Swindell made with other cars(I'm sure Dean didnt exclusively follow him on camera for the entire race) AND the fact that Mommy and Daddy didnt think the call for crews to remove themselves from the track didnt mean them(which delayed pushoff by about 5 minutes) I will have to respectfully say that you are full oh $h^t. If I were Coons I would have booted his azz out of the way on the last restart

Fisher79 11/10/08 7:56 PM

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The RichC/Rob Hoffman debate above brings to the forefront one of the big conflicts facing sprint car racing today.

One one hand you've got a sport that, up until very recent times, was pretty downhome in nature and quite self-policing. Fights after on-track altercations used to be pretty common, and for good reason. Getting popped in the eye by a Bobby Kinser or a Jack Hewitt conveyed a clear message: Get your head out of your ass. It was a reliable system.

Nowadays we see our sport on the brink, or moving nearer the brink, of "big time" status. More and more big money operations, tied to big names, keep popping up and more attention on a national scale seems to be afoot. Behind the new money rolling into the pit area are big-name sponsors, all of which certainly hope to be represented in a professional manner.

Now, in today's overly-sensitive and liberal society, those two worlds are meeting. And make no mistake, this show will go one of two ways: Either back to its former state, or on to a new level of corporate involvement. The benefits of the latter are pretty obvious. We all would like to see TV deals, bigger purses and possibly even a non-wing touring series made possible by sponsorship dollars.

But at what cost? Are those things worth sprint car racing losing touch with its roots and identity over? I know I'd rather lose my front teeth in the Paragon pits than receive a slap on the wrist in the "hauler" at some futuristic dirt track palace.

Joe Kidd 11/10/08 8:04 PM

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
Joe having been there and seeing all the contact that Mr Swindell made with other cars(I'm sure Dean didnt exclusively follow him on camera for the entire race) AND the fact that Mommy and Daddy didnt think the call for crews to remove themselves from the track didnt mean them(which delayed pushoff by about 5 minutes) I will have to respectfully say that you are full oh $h^t. If I were Coons I would have booted his azz out of the way on the last restart

John quit yer :crying: This stuff has been going on for as long as I have been going to races. You people act like it is something new. Get over it.

Again nice job Kevin. :thumb


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