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nonwingkingofkalifornia 7/3/19 6:55 PM
USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
USAC screws over their fans, blacks out race for paid Floracing viewers, gives races both nights to dirtvision viewers for free.

ryan84 7/3/19 10:04 PM
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I got this email from flo saying it will be broadcast both nights???? Just the USAC portion, hope true.

brsteg 7/3/19 10:15 PM
Flo will only be permitted to televise the Saturday A Main Live.

Dirtvision will have the entire event Live for $40, individual night packages also available.

Not good for the non-wing fan base. (Middle finger ish)

Jerry Shaw 7/3/19 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan84 (Post 516260)
I got this email from flo saying it will be broadcast both nights???? Just the USAC portion, hope true.
These things are very carefully worded. It says the event is July 5th and July 6th. And that the event will be dual streamed on DirtVision and Flo. But it doesn’t specifically say it’s going to be dual streamed both days. It would be nice if it was true, but I would be surprised.

Jerry

JDK222 7/3/19 11:04 PM
I think your incorrect about it being free on Dirtvision. I have the monthly pass but it doesn’t appear to be included....another 40.00 if you want to watch.

duel 7/3/19 11:35 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
I was a little sceptical that this would be on flo both days. Fortunately for me I will be making my 1st trip to Knoxville for this show.

Points 7/4/19 12:38 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
I looked back at the Knoxville news and last November was when dirtvision was announced as exclusive PPV provider of the raceway including the corn belt nationals. At the time I am sure this was great news as I believe it predates the Flo deal.

miledirt 7/4/19 7:29 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by Points (Post 516267)
I looked back at the Knoxville news and last November was when dirtvision was announced as exclusive PPV provider of the raceway including the corn belt nationals. At the time I am sure this was great news as I believe it predates the Flo deal.
I think you are spot on correct, DirtVision as exclusive PPV for Knoxville and that would include this weekends show.

But they should just come out and say that this week instead of the carefully worded press release about dual coverage this weekend, etc etc... but only means FloRacing subscribers get the Saturday A main.

Stephen Cording 7/4/19 9:02 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Just the Saturday night A main will be streamed live on Flo, which is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

A little disappointed, yes. Outraged, no.

Got to see more ‘live USAC Racing’ thanks to Flo than I ever have before for a one off payment of $150.

I hope the entire show will be made available after the event. But if it’s not at least I got to see the main event.

Will Shunk 7/4/19 6:48 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Turn off your computers and devices. Get off the couch/chair and GO to a race track to watch racing. Try Lincoln Park this weekend or Gas City on Saturday. Your physical and mental health will thank you!

ossuks 7/4/19 7:22 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by Will Shunk (Post 516319)
Turn off your computers and devices. Get off the couch/chair and GO to a race track to watch racing. Try Lincoln Park this weekend or Gas City on Saturday. Your physical and mental health will thank you!
or stay home in the air....eat good food...safe from the highway....no worry about weather...save money....watch other events while stockers are on track...early to bed....go out to dinner then watch race....stay in the chair...

BrentTFunk 7/4/19 8:10 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
If everyone watches from home, eventually there will be nothing to watch.

racefan20 7/4/19 10:24 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 516325)
If everyone watches from home, eventually there will be nothing to watch.
But Brent if USAC, WoO POWRI AllStars etc felt that way they wouldnt be promoting these streaming services.....would they?

openwheelfan1 7/4/19 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 516332)
But Brent if USAC, WoO POWRI AllStars etc felt that way they wouldnt be promoting these streaming services.....would they?
Yeah, they actually might. Look at the crowds and the therefore, cash flow the organizations mentioned had 20 years ago, then look at today. Streaming is a way to increase cash flow. Ideally, streaming will also expose a new fans that will want to attend the races, but it is a risky proposition. If you do a good enough job of streaming, you might discourage current fans from attending.

revjimk 7/4/19 11:27 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Will Shunk (Post 516319)
Turn off your computers and devices. Get off the couch/chair and GO to a race track to watch racing. Try Lincoln Park this weekend or Gas City on Saturday. Your physical and mental health will thank you!
Good one!:23:

revjimk 7/4/19 11:28 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 516325)
If everyone watches from home, eventually there will be nothing to watch.
True dat....

revjimk 7/4/19 11:31 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 516332)
But Brent if USAC, WoO POWRI AllStars etc felt that way they wouldnt be promoting these streaming services.....would they?
They want both revenue streams. Obviously EVERYBODy can't make it to Knoxville, so why not sell it to those fans too? Win/win... they make $$, we get to see the races :23:

Charles Nungester 7/4/19 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by revjimk (Post 516343)
They want both revenue streams. Obviously EVERYBODy can't make it to Knoxville, so why not sell it to those fans too? Win/win... they make $$, we get to see the races :23:

Knoxville's different but I haven't seen any sanctions purse go up from streaming revenue.

BrentTFunk 7/5/19 5:38 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 516332)
But Brent if USAC, WoO POWRI AllStars etc felt that way they wouldnt be promoting these streaming services.....would they?
I said if everyone. Replying to the comment before.

HDINDY 7/5/19 7:36 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 516349)
Knoxville's different but I haven't seen any sanctions purse go up from streaming revenue.
Exactly, and can we add some midget or chicks mud wrestling . As a fan I want the full real deal.

Charles Nungester 7/5/19 9:13 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDINDY (Post 516361)
Exactly, and can we add some midget or chicks mud wrestling . As a fan I want the full real deal.
Creativity and stuff is also missing. Im perfectly fine with just a decent racing event. But what happened to A kid wins a bike nights, Two Gorrilla's get hitched. Claude the happy trumpeter. I don't see any of that anymore.

racefan20 7/5/19 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by openwheelfan1 (Post 516336)
Yeah, they actually might. Look at the crowds and the therefore, cash flow the organizations mentioned had 20 years ago, then look at today. Streaming is a way to increase cash flow. Ideally, streaming will also expose a new fans that will want to attend the races, but it is a risky proposition. If you do a good enough job of streaming, you might discourage current fans from attending.
This streaming thing has yet to totally play itself out. Go back and read Kevin Dobson's post. I'm pretty sure most if not all of the tracks arent being compensated by the sanctioning bodies or the streaming companies for the rights to stream a sanctioned race at their tracks. You can bet when contracts are signed for next year most will be lined up with their hands out for their piece of the pie. Prices will inevitably go up and some fans who think its a good deal now may decide its too expensive. That being said this is the way that young people consume entertainment and if racing does not follow they will be left behind as the older generation of fans fade away.

hoosier race fan 7/5/19 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 516367)
That being said this is the way that young people consume entertainment and if racing does not follow they will be left behind as the older generation of fans fade away.
Absolutely. I think it can be marketed to the older generation as they may not be physically able to attend as many events as well. Keep those fans and attract new ones.

huskermudd 7/5/19 5:54 PM
People stop whining be glad you can see the race live flo racing is doing a great job where else can you see that many races for that price pay the 40 bucks enjoy the race and thank you Knoxville for holding a bigger payout show

miledirt 7/5/19 7:56 PM
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Originally Posted by huskermudd (Post 516384)
People stop whining be glad you can see the race live flo racing is doing a great job where else can you see that many races for that price pay the 40 bucks enjoy the race and thank you Knoxville for holding a bigger payout show
Actually it's $19.95 on DirtVision to watch the Knoxville show tonight. Not on floracing tonight

Charles Nungester 7/5/19 7:57 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by miledirt (Post 516391)
Actually it's $19.95 on DirtVision to watch the Knoxville show tonight. Not on floracing tonight
So I still gotta pay twice for something I already paid for. Sorry. NGH

revjimk 7/5/19 8:06 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 516349)
Knoxville's different but I haven't seen any sanctions purse go up from streaming revenue.
Think again. Saturday pays $20,000 to win. Way bigger than standard purse
As for regular season events on Flo, you're probably right

Charles Nungester 7/5/19 8:10 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by revjimk (Post 516396)
Think again. Saturday pays $20,000 to win. Way bigger than standard purse
As for regular season events on Flo, you're probably right
Bought Flo with understanding that all USAC Sprint, Midget and Champs would be aired live and the page advertising it that way is still there.

Whats next, BC39 not aired due to speedway contract with NBCSN?

I'll keep my $$ and go to burg or lps. tomorrow

Midget98 7/5/19 8:36 PM
This is on the floracing website...

"Through this new agreement, which takes effect Jan. 1, 2019, FloRacing will broadcast all of USAC Racing’s flagship National Championship events in its Silver Crown Championship, AMSOIL National Sprint Series and the NOS Energy Drink National Midget Championship."

Maybe clever wording by saying "all flagship events" rather than "all events". What other races won't be broadcast this year?

Red Clay 7/5/19 9:45 PM
Maybe they are guaranteeing ALL national points races? This is a non points race, so it would not be a national championship event.

huskermudd 7/5/19 10:23 PM
No kidding it’s 40 bucks for both days
Still pretty cheep I’m just saying 180 bucks for the whole USAC season is a good deal so I’m not going to complain about another 40 bucks to watch one of the highest payouts of the year

JarrettFarms73 7/6/19 12:28 AM
Am i missing something? Was this event EVER billed as a “USAC” event? I’ll answer that: NO!! From day one it was advertised as being in cooperation from a scheduling standpoint with multiple non-wing sanctioning bodies including USAC. I’ve never once seen or heard an official press release claiming this to be a USAC event. YET, here we are... So does WAR suck too then by this standard? Weird though because i’ve looked and looked at the Brandt Agriculture Corn Belt Nationals logo and cant find USAC’s or Power-I/ WAR’s name on it anywhere. It’s almost like this is a one-off special event or something...
Pay the money for the gate ticket and travel or pay the money for the available TV source and be happy you’re not waiting for your hard copy of SSN to finally hit the mailbox sometime next week.

GYATK94 7/6/19 12:49 AM
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ossuks 7/6/19 7:08 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
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Originally Posted by JarrettFarms73 (Post 516416)
Am i missing something? Was this event EVER billed as a “USAC” event? I’ll answer that: NO!! From day one it was advertised as being in cooperation from a scheduling standpoint with multiple non-wing sanctioning bodies including USAC. I’ve never once seen or heard an official press release claiming this to be a USAC event. YET, here we are... So does WAR suck too then by this standard? Weird though because i’ve looked and looked at the Brandt Agriculture Corn Belt Nationals logo and cant find USAC’s or Power-I/ WAR’s name on it anywhere. It’s almost like this is a one-off special event or something...
Pay the money for the gate ticket and travel or pay the money for the available TV source and be happy you’re not waiting for your hard copy of SSN to finally hit the mailbox sometime next week.
I just read on 3 press releases posted by USAC on this site, USAC refers to the event as a "USAC National Championship event" ....JUST SAYING!!!

JarrettFarms73 7/6/19 8:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ossuks (Post 516425)
I just read on 3 press releases posted by USAC on this site, USAC refers to the event as a "USAC National Championship event" ....JUST SAYING!!!

Sure, i’ve seen USAC social media promote the crap out of the event. But there’s a big difference between that and calling it your own. i don’t follow POWRi/ WAR on any platforms but i’d be willing to bet they have also participated in promoting this event in abundance.

ThePurple73 7/6/19 9:45 AM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
The bad thing was it was noted on the Flo schedule as July 5 and July 6, which implied to users both shows.

I only noticed just the Saturday feature, just this week. I had to get the $40 dollar dirt vision 2 night deal.


Dirt vision GAVE me a free $39 dollar subscription along with what I paid for (2 nights), and if I don't call and cancel it is $39 a month. Which is ridiculous.

mc/rider 7/6/19 10:57 AM
Life and business are aways full of unforseen circumstances.I would like to think FLO and USAC at this very moment are trying to come up with a fair solution for all their loyal fans and subscribers.I hope taking money and not delivering a product,and totally ignoring the situation is not part of their business plan. :15:

robert gatten 7/6/19 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JarrettFarms73 (Post 516416)
Am i missing something? Was this event EVER billed as a “USAC” event? I’ll answer that: NO!! From day one it was advertised as being in cooperation from a scheduling standpoint with multiple non-wing sanctioning bodies including USAC. Or. I’ve never once seen or heard an official press release claiming this to be a USAC event. YET, here we are... So does WAR suck too then by this standard? Weird though because i’ve looked and looked at the Brandt Agriculture Corn Belt Nationals logo and cant find USAC’s or Power-I/ WAR’s name on it anywhere. It’s almost like this is a one-off special event or something...
Pay the money for the gate ticket and travel or pay the money for the available TV source and be happy you’re not waiting for your hard copy of SSN to finally hit the mailbox sometime next week.
Exactly correct ! Great event thanks to Knoxville Raceway , not USAC or War. This event needs to happen for the betterment of non wing racing and all this gripping , over $19.95, is not helping .

Charles Nungester 7/6/19 12:59 PM
Re: USAC screws paid Floracing fan
 
http://usacracing.com/news/silver-cr...-floracing-com

dsc1600 7/6/19 2:12 PM
DirtVision showed some of the Knoxville racing while the WoO were in rain delay last night.


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