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Does it always take 4-5 hours to run 2 c’s 2 b’s and an A????

Even worse than last year. Seems like as soon as they go to "made for TV" it ruins everything. All week long the show was great, now you put it on live TV and it's a joke.

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Why do we wait for 90 minutes and 30 laps to get the same track as when the last B has finished? Next year lets say we run the A 25 laps , no 90 minute delay for track work?

Great show, can't wait for next year. CBell

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Hey look who was doing the track work!!!! Guess tony thought he was working his track, was already dry slick as the cars were lining up for their race, I have never seen it take Haubstadt that long to redo the track :7:

Happy I didn't bother to watch it. Nothing more irritating than excessive delays

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You guys are complaining about a race that was won on the last lap, that you watched from the comfort of home?

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I'm pretty sure air quality plays a role. in order to have 24 cars run 55 laps they have to evacuate all fumes, that takes time.

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Not to mention 300 plus cars running all day. 2 Problems Haubstadt and all other tracks don't have to deal with. I just saw where Bell started 15th, so how bad could it have been?

Looks like more of an observation than a complaint

But yes. Why so long?

If this sport is trying to draw in new fans this type of drawn out program/coverage certainly IS NOT positive.

What suggestions do you have Brent?

(since you think those who watched from home shouldn’t be able to ‘complain’)

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Thought Bell started 2nd due to the Clash or whatever they called it. They raced 2 cars per starting with 9 - 10 & the winner moved on.

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350 cars, a last lap pass for the win, a packed grandstand where people resell tickets for more than they paid. I don't know if I would change a thing. Seems like it is working ok the way it is. I take that back. One thing I would change is for me to get back there, since I haven't been back since 1998.

Next year I’ll just record it and watch the all the racing in 45 minutes instead of 5 hours. Nobody’s complaining about the racing just length of the broadcast.

I’m a diehard fan, competitor/owner in this sport my whole life, and I’m 43 now. I struggled not to throw in the towel last night. You don’t attract new fans attention by running 2 C’s and 2 B’s in 4 hours. It was almost 1 am est when the A main started for a broadcast that started at 8:30 est. It’s awesome to have the TV coverage but it was painfully long last night.

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Even seen some people on twitter wondering why they did a couple of things they did taking time when a feature should of been running. 1 or 2 of them some of you hold in high regard.

Told the guy's I set with a couple of years ago that I love the racing it's the jack'n around that has to go.

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The darn show has ended 12:30-1am est every year I've watched it. They even added the pole shuffle this year to the programing.

Some just look for a reason.........
Sheesh

If you want to nitpick. How about Bob Dilnar interviewing 2 young women drivers and calling them "guys" 4 or 5 times. Yeesh.

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The question was why does it take so long to run 2c, 2b, and 1a. We get told we should be happy we saw it at home. The question was why does it take so long. We get stats about tix prices, full grandstands, and how many cars entered. The question was why does it take so long. We get the winner makes a last lap pass coming from 15th. Only thing is he started second after the god awful boring pole shuffle.The question was why does it take so long and a mention of who is doing the track prep. We get that another guy who is not there couldn’t compare. The thing is we won’t get a strait answer because it would require being negative about the track prep guy. The broadcast clearly had dedicated a certain percent of air time to laud TS for his efforts. Aside from a live interview while riding on the tractor from Argabright we couldn’t get enough about the prep. Maybe they can work it in for next year. The question was why did it take so long. The answer is that the final 5 races are more about the social gathering that the chili bowl has become and not the racing itself. It’s about KKR, and CMR with all of their cars. It’s about so many other things than just the racing which is what most of us who cannot attend are looking for when we turn on MAVtv on the final nite. A break from winter for three hours and watch racing.
The question was why does it take so long Brent? Why don’t you answer with I don’t know? Clearly by your answers you don’t. We know you are one of Tony’s water boys and have to defend at all costs. 3 hours is plenty of time to run those races.

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Thats because they got balls

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Exactly what I did this year. Didn't miss any of the racing and didn't have to sit through all the down time.

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I had a couple that are new to racing at the house for the race. Their main question last night was why all the delay with track prep? Even they knew it shouldn" t take as long as it did to rework the track as they had been to Haubstadt a couple of times. As they were getting ready to leave at 1 am. heard them say they liked the racing but they weren't sure if they would be going to a track after last night. It sure wasn't very impressive for new fans Yeleyfan you are a 100 per cent right!!!!!!

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The Chili Bowl is taking a page from the Earl Baltes book on how to operate a successful race track.

If I could have sold one more hot dog I would have broke even.

I got to watch racing almost all day long,from the comfort of my home while it was snowing outside my window, never stood in one line all day.

Thank you Chili Bowl and MAV TV for a great race and Thank You Christoper Bell for a fantastic finish.

I swear some folks would ***** if you hung them with new rope.

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They could at least bring in Billy Squier to sing the stroke.:D:3::5:

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I had a friend over last night to watch his first Midget race and Chili Bowl. He's an old CART fan. All he kept says was we've got to go next year we've got to go!!!

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Yes, it was long, but there are 100s of hours of NASCAR programming on all year - which many complain about - so, I say enjoy the 4-5 hours of LIVE midget coverage ONE TIME A YEAR (I don't have Mav, so forgive me if there is another one - CB & Turkey Night would be about the only ones I could make "appointment TV"). I'm most thankful MAV stuck with it & didn't cut away b4 it was over!!!

I plowed snow the morning before, so I really had only slept for like 28 minutes in the 36hours before it came on, but I wasn't gona miss it (even if it was the least I have cared about it in years, just cuz...its still cool tho). My ony wish was they'd show the FULL prelim features (like a REAL alphabet highlight package or the features from the nights before - all in order instead of sporadically around the broadcast) - instead of some of the interviews (which, unless you are sitting at home - are hard to hear). But ya, if I had MAV, id'a recorded it & listened to everything again, while I was doing smthn else...or it would sit in the PILES of such recordings I struggle to get to...lol. I have like 4 Eldora truck races I intend to catch up on one day...lol

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One of the reasons I don't go any more. My choice. To damn old for all the nonsense.

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My source said he was into the beer when he texted.

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I did not see any of it. I spent 16 hours removing snow with a shovel. Had no idea who was prepping the track. All I knew is it wasn't Tommy. I picked that up from multiple posts. I have helped prep tracks before, and know with that many cars it would be a challenge for any body.

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Bell Started 2nd.....Fell to 4th and slowly rallied to win.

Why was Darland black flagged, we were there and did not see anything. He really showed his displeasure with the officials going around the track before he pulled off.

Anyone know what hapened that Dave Darland was black flagged from the first B-main? A person setting near us said it was due to unsportsmanlike conduct.

The 4 to 5 hours of coverage isn’t what bothered me personally, I actually enjoyed it. It was that it was well after 1 a.m. ET. Hard for me to stay awake in the comfort of my home. But all I really wanted to know is if it was normal to run that late or if this way a off year. Sorry to stir everyone up. Lol

I think the issue some have (myself included) is that there weren't any of these crazy long delays all week long running multiple heats, qualifiers, c mains, b mains and feature. Why, as soon as MavTV takes over does everything take 5 times as long as it has all week? I've attended the races many times and this was never the case a few years back. Last year was bad and this year was worse. I love the on-track product they deliver, but there's absolutely no need to draw it out as long as this. Everything runs on schedule all week until live TV time and then it all goes to hell.

I have the last 4 Chili Bowls on my DVR

2016 record time 4 hrs 29 mins
2017 record time 4 hrs 33 mins
2018 record time 3 hrs 37 mins
2019 record time 5 hrs 2 mins

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Lucas Oil owns MAVTV. It's the highest watched show for them every year, so it equals plenty of Lucas Oil advertisements and promo's. It gives me and my stupid friends ( RPracing1 ), extra time to bullsh!t and drink :32:

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I would guess that it had something to do with getting the air circulated. Track prep was completed a good 25-30 mins before the race started. Not sure why MAV wanted to show us last year's race instead of driver introductions. While I was also getting frustrated as a fan as I watched my son eventually fall asleep on the couch and miss what he had stayed up for... there's almost always a legitimate reason when you have people who know what they are doing running things... and knowing several of the people running things down there - they know what they are doing.

The only lesson I took from it watching as a fan was: Communication. If somewhere around 11:00 (Central) we had been informed of the fact we were an hour away from the feature for whatever reason.... they would have avoided the grumpiness and wise-cracking (which I eventually started participating in via texts that were floating in) because the fans would have been informed and had that expectation. The problem is that for an hour we all assumed we were 10 mins or so from going green. No harm. No foul. Great race.

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The announcers did say there was going to be a 45-50 minutes before the A main sometime after the B was finished. We were all puzzled as to the delay. I was also wondering why they didn’t show the driver intros.

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Did not see any of it yet plenty to say. Your source was into the beer yet you told us Bell started 15th. Really? I’m sorry but sometimes nothing said is the smartest thing to say. With all of the people you talk to I find it hard to believe you didn’t know Ole Phony Stewart was the prep guy. Everybody knew Tommy wasn’t the guy doing the track. Sorry you had to shovel so much snow but maybe that’s better than shoveling all of the excriment you’ve been posting.

Eldora track prep is bad and last nite was bad. Common denominator?? Check your sources I’m sure you will figure it out.

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So, it comes down to this, 35 minutes of competition in 300 minutes. Some feel they were privileged to get to watch, others felt they were inconvenienced. So how do you perceive it?

Me, I grew up in a world with 4 tv channels. To put things in perspective, at 11 pm on New Years Eve was the Bluebonnet Bowl, and there was nothing cooler that staying up and watching that game. Today I could have watched 50 plus live games Saturday alone. When I was a youngster I would have put getting to watch a live race on the same stage as going to the Indianapolis 500. Trouble is, the entertainment world is at my finger tips today, and I felt like I was being held hostage last night. It was not a privilege to get to watch the Chili Bowl this mourning, it was a choice. A choice that some will not make in the future. The kind of choice that keeps the sport mired in a perception that it is a privilege. Which is why Sprint / Midget racing will soldier on with a "self contained" following on an obscure station.

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Your going to loose your point fund money!
And be suspended, from competing in any races.
He is the greatest prep man ever, just ask anyone at USAC.