Now what USAC?
 

What does USAC do about Courtney? There has to be a rule about using your car for retaliation on track after the checkers. That would have to be actions detrimental to the sport. The very least is parked for tomorrow nite. I don’t care if it’s the last wknd and he is in the points battle. If USAC is going to make examples out of their drivers for actions detrimental to the sport then Courtney needs to be parked. Let’s see if Spridge, Levi, or Miller has the stones to keep up this charade of an organization that is professional and following their initiative to set down drivers committing acts detrimental to the sport! I bet they do nothing. Would love to be wrong but I know better. USAC proving to be second rate if they do nothing about this.

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Explaination to what happened please

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Can you name sources? Seems you have an ax to grind, again.

Yeleyfan is a passionate fan like a lot of us. I look forward to hearing his further explanation of what he saw last night. I couldn't make it to CA and the damn USAC app cuts out about every 3to 5 minutes so I missed the extra curricular events last night.

It’s a fine that doubles every time you run into someone under yellow or after the checkers. They say it during the drivers meeting every week.

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Used to be a five knuckle sammich. But that was then..........

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There is a tad bit of logic there, and I may be comparing apples to watermelons here (not knowing what happened) but ever since the Tony Stewart-Kevin Ward incident, any type of retaliation with a vehicle has to come under severe penalty by the sanctioning body - in any series. In a case where a vehicle is used, ask yourself, "What is the worse thing that could happen?" Well, it could very well escalate into that.

But, until we know the details..... here we ponder.

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My source is me. I was there. Were you??? The kid got beat on the track and then after the checkers took his car and ran over Grant in turn two. That is actions detrimental to the sport. My axe to grind is it’s good for some but not for all. The rule is a fine for what he did but you get suspended for tweeting. Yes I’m calling out everything Brent, Get used to it buddy.

Charles wrote that in the old days it was a knuckle sandwich. I agree with him, but I today’s pc world that can’t happen.

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Pretty sure they say in the pit meeting and over the raceceiver that it's a $$$ fine with the potential for disqualification for any car to car altercations after the race is completed.

That's going off memory, not facts in a rule book.

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I agree with you, if they're gonna lower the boom for tweeting, then surely using your car after the race has concluded as a weapon, should be considered serious. If they have a rule on it already, like has been stated by others, then impose whatever penalty is prescribed therein.

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Knuckle Sammich's were few and far between, Why? Because they worked the first time mostly.

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You keep picking at USAC and they will hire you if history repeats its self?

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Who has video of this incident?

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I don't understand why someone would *****, moan and cry about a certain sanctioning body and turn right around and attend that sanctioning bodies races. That makes absolutely no sense to me what so ever. If I complained about that certain sanctioning body as much as some do on here I sure in the hell would NOT attend their races, but that's just me.

Ballou’s tweeting situation was far more than the Eldora incident. If you follow him on twitter you would see that he has been tweeting negative remarks about USAC, tracks, drivers, and various other companies all year and possibly multiple years...

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No mention of Grant punting Courtney to take the lead. But here we go again.

Punting? I hardly call that punting.

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Really? Not my definition of a "Punt" as you call it. Geez.............Pot-stirrers............Sigh............

The suspension for tweeting from my understanding was not a one time deal. It has been constant for the last couple years. Bashing the series you race for and tracks that they are invited to race at.:7: He was given several warnings before they finally suspended him. Tyler on the other hand keeps his nose clean, so does Justin. Occasionally you’re going to have heated moments from a race. That’s part of what makes these races and championships so exciting.
If you want USAC to do what they did to Ballou, then Tyler should have his first warning. He’s got a few more before he gets suspended.

And congratulations to Justin and Topp Motorsports on their win!

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If you want USAC to do what they did to Ballou, then Tyler should have his first warning. He’s got a few more before he gets suspended.

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Bingo!

Running over other cars under yellow seemed like a big deal last year at the oval nats. I remember they parked one of the leaders after he went after Grant under yellow. During that incident the mic was live in the booth for ppv customers and you could hear the seriousness in the officials voice as he yelled dont let that guy back on the track and he was DONE!

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As a casual visitor to this site, it would be really, really great if the original poster would explain what the heck happened? Between internet bravado I can determine that Courtney got into someone's car (Justin Grant) after the checkered flag fell?

It that's the case, then they should do something about it. Like park him for a race, or fine him, or both.

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What would you call throwing a slider, not clearing and hitting him broadside knocking him out of his grove to complete the pass? Video's on USAC's FB page. Unlike the accusation thrown in the original post.

I call it a racing incident but not clean and a clear warrent to let the other know he wasn't happy. Maybe not by hitting after the checkers, But for sure letting him know somehow.

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I would call it National USAC drivers version of the bump and run. The National drivers have perfected the "just hard enough to upset his car" pass.

I like Tyler Courtney. Even own a shirt. But tweeting and intentionally wrecking someone after the checkered is not the same thing. Courtney should be sent a strong message. Whether that's points, money, or suspension. Grant's pass wasn't exactly clean but he didn't wreck him either.

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you can't compare tyler with ballou. tyler was definitely wrong for running into grant after the checkers fell. ballou on the other hand is partially right, because if car owners treated their equipment like most promotors treat their track there wouldn't be much sprint car racing.

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i Hope that's just a sarcastic answer because contact in open wheel often ends with somone hurt and several thousand in damage.

Not that it don't happen and isn't going to happen sometimes. A winning move? maybe. gets no respect though.

I love J.G but Id say the same about anyone hitting another car.

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[QUOTE=SteelCore;504962]I like Tyler Courtney. Even own a shirt. But tweeting and intentionally wrecking someone after the checkered is not the same thing. Courtney should be sent a strong message. Whether that's points, money, or suspension. Grant's pass wasn't exactly clean but he didn't wreck him either.[/QUOTE

Exactly correct. This may have been a first time offense for Courtney. Ballou tweeted multiple times even after being warned. If anyone on this board equates twitter drivel with using your sprint car to retaliate then we may have an issue. Courtney did what is detrimental to the sport and that means you get suspended. Not hard to figure out.

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Basically what the point of all his tweets were about.

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Why don't we let TC & JG work it out?

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The real question is what has been the standard for the entire season, not the last race weekend of the year. If they have consistently parked people for similar actions, they should park them now. If they have not parked anyone all year, why should we start now? Consistency is what we should strive for.

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If you want to end the problem you penalize him now and make it known that’s not tolerated. If the 7 was parked tonite and it cost him a title, maybe everyone would realize that’s not acceptable. Doing it this way would prove consistency of zero tolerance using your car to retaliate. Not hard to understand.

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Then stay home bud. I love the racing but think the sanctioning body sucks. I wish there were other options in nonwing to the level of usacs competition. Since there are not I’m still going to the races. Thanks for your advice it was nice of you to let me know.

I saw hard racing. How often do slide jobs end in contact? Quite often. It’s called racing. Driving into someone AFTER the checkered is NOT racing! This is coming from someone who has been in the driver seat, not a keyboard jocky picking sides for their favorite driver. I know both of them. Both on and off the track. Tyler I raced with since I was about 10 years old. Justin since he moved here from Cali. Hard to pick sides but again i saw hard racing on a track that took rubber. Things happen, but retaliation after the checkered shouldn’t happen under any circumstances.

What is worse actions or words?

Jonr there is absolutely no place on this board for logic and common sense!!

Ding ding ding. Round 2 is over. Now what?:11:

We can educate the ignorant but we can't fix stupid.
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I"ve been thinking lol. Having the old boxing ring on wheels at the tracks not such a bad idea.:D Really to me it looked like a racing deal no more no less

It is not a "racing deal" when you wreck someone after the checkered flag!