Carson Short-save of the year
 

If you were at Bubba Raceway Friday night 2/16/18, you got to see Carson Short make the save of the year (maybe?) after getting bumped by Chris Windom in the middle of turns 3/4. If you weren't at BRP or missed it, you can find the video on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6yzV3JPX3o. The incident occurs about 1:20 in to the video.

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Wow! Very impressive....
I guess they kind of jumped the gun on caution flag...

He was impressive all 3 nights.fun to watch.

Originally Posted by interpreter66:
He was impressive all 3 nights.fun to watch.

He did really well the week before in his wing car also, he'll be right up there with the best this year, keep an eye on him.

Makes you wonder if that was skill or luck ,probably both, either way badass!!!!

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Originally Posted by Ryanshaneosborne:
Makes you wonder if that was skill or luck ,probably both, either way badass!!!!

How would luck enter into it? He was driving the car, not buying Lotto tickets....

Originally Posted by luckybuc97:
He did really well the week before in his wing car also, he'll be right up there with the best this year, keep an eye on him.

I went to the Midget/USCS show the week before USAC and Carson WAS the show. He didn't win but he passed nearly every car on the track at least once. He went to the back 3 or more times and came through the pack to finish in the top 4.

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I have not seen an answer posted yet, and I get why they have lights on some of the cars. But, why blue lights? And I saw when caution came out, they just started blinking. Even the green lights were blinking. Sure it gets your attention, but not as quick as a yellow light, or a blinking yellow light would. But the blue lights, I can not think what blue would mean.

Originally Posted by dirtracer74:
I have not seen an answer posted yet, and I get why they have lights on some of the cars. But, why blue lights? And I saw when caution came out, they just started blinking. Even the green lights were blinking. Sure it gets your attention, but not as quick as a yellow light, or a blinking yellow light would. But the blue lights, I can not think what blue would mean.

As it was explained by the announcer, the lights on the backs of the car are what they are calling “ Track Safe” or “Race Safe” (they used both terms, not sure which is correct) and are still in the trial phase. The way it is supposed to work is they will flash when the yellow flag is displayed. There is also a light on the dash of the race car that will flash when the yellow comes out. They will also be illuminated for the top 3. 1 light will be lit for first place, 2 lights for second, 3 lights for third. If you might have noticed, there are two versions currently in use...green lights that change to yellow and flash when the yellow comes, and blue lights that flash when the yellow comes out. They indicated that in all likelihood, they will transition to the blue light model as that is the driver’s preference.

Originally Posted by openwheelfan1:
As it was explained by the announcer, the lights on the backs of the car are what they are calling “ Track Safe” or “Race Safe” (they used both terms, not sure which is correct) and are still in the trial phase. The way it is supposed to work is they will flash when the yellow flag is displayed. There is also a light on the dash of the race car that will flash when the yellow comes out. They will also be illuminated for the top 3. 1 light will be lit for first place, 2 lights for second, 3 lights for third. If you might have noticed, there are two versions currently in use...green lights that change to yellow and flash when the yellow comes, and blue lights that flash when the yellow comes out. They indicated that in all likelihood, they will transition to the blue light model as that is the driver’s preference.

You would think a solid green, solid yellow, and a solid red light on each car would be sufficient. That's JMO

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Originally Posted by luckybuc97:
You would think a solid green, solid yellow, and a solid red light on each car would be sufficient. That's JMO

Personally I agree with the Blue light that starts blinking for a caution. One reason is you don't have to look for a certain color and two some people could be color blind and not be able to tell the difference as clearly.

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Originally Posted by revjimk:
How would luck enter into it? He was driving the car, not buying Lotto tickets....

How would luck not enter into it ?

Yeah great driving but you also need a break.
I've crashed enuff to know that some you save from skill some from luck that might look like skill.
If you drive out of that your enjoying a combo of skill and good luck. Skill and no luck or bad luck would have had a different ending.

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Originally Posted by Backitin:
How would luck not enter into it ?

Yeah great driving but you also need a break.
I've crashed enuff to know that some you save from skill some from luck that might look like skill.
If you drive out of that your enjoying a combo of skill and good luck. Skill and no luck or bad luck would have had a different ending.

You're just repeating yourself (with different words) Driver has control of gas & brake pedals, steering wheel, & his eyes are open... just exactly where does "luck" enter the equation?
Shooting dice is luck...

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Just watch Carson in a race any track The kid has that pedal matted from green to checkered He is a true gasser :8:

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Originally Posted by revjimk:
You're just repeating yourself (with different words) Driver has control of gas & brake pedals, steering wheel, & his eyes are open... just exactly where does "luck" enter the equation?
Shooting dice is luck...

The luck part is everything working and you driving out of it, no one hits you. You don't hook a wheel, ect.
Come racing with us and I'm pretty sure after awhile if you had the choice of being the luckiest or most skilled you'd pick the luckiest. After awhile theres more lucky racers around then talented ones. Lucky to be there in the first place, lucky to have a ride, lucky to not get taken out. He was lucky in life just to get to that position and his luck held up thru that race also.

Yes thru talent and dedication you make your own good luck, just don't think bad luck doesn't exist, I've seen it make great riders disappear.

p.s. how do you know his eyes were open ? or that he was doing anything but hanging on, till after the car straightened out ? You don't, although I'm sure he drove out of it with skill but the same amount of luck.

Just curious....how did USAC score that yellow flag? Did he get his spot back from the prior lap position, was he sent to the tail or how was the lineup reached? Not complaining, I wouldn’t want to make racing calls.

Got his spot back from previous lap I think 8th at the time

Thanks.

Lost 3 spots, threw the yellow for safety they said. They call it blending in. He was fifth when windom bombed him. Had to restart 8th

I feel he was lucky there was enough of a cush to slow him down and hook up without backing into the fence. Enough talent to stomp the throttle and hope nothing bad happens instead of jumping on the brakes and going for a ride. And a little bit of bad luck he was in that situation to begin with.

JER

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Originally Posted by Haulinmail:
Lost 3 spots, threw the yellow for safety they said. They call it blending in. He was fifth when windom bombed him. Had to restart 8th

Didn't Windom "bomb" Andretti in a similar fashion off of turn 2 a night previous in a heat race per Loudpedal? Sounds like Carson is a driver to watch in 2018 per this thread.

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Originally Posted by Will Shunk:
Didn't Windom "bomb" Andretti in a similar fashion off of turn 2 a night previous in a heat race per Loudpedal? Sounds like Carson is a driver to watch in 2018 per this thread.

I don't know that Windom "bombed" Andretti, but they certainly made contact later in the same feature where Windom and Carson Short made contact. If you watch the clip I originally posted, the contact occurs at about the 1:55 mark. Andretti slammed the wall on the "backstretch" and executed a rollover.

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Originally Posted by Haulinmail:
Lost 3 spots, threw the yellow for safety they said. They call it blending in. He was fifth when windom bombed him. Had to restart 8th

The flagman was kind of funny to watch after Short made that save. He shrugged and shook his head in amazement. I think you could have counted on one hand the number of people there that thought Short WOULDN'T crash there. Not defending USAC, but I think,
given the situation, they made the best decision they could in where they restarted him.

Originally Posted by Will Shunk:
Didn't Windom "bomb" Andretti in a similar fashion off of turn 2 a night previous in a heat race per Loudpedal? Sounds like Carson is a driver to watch in 2018 per this thread.

And john was nice enough to share his water bottle with windom during that red😉