Lawrenceburg-MSCS-Oct 4th
 

Just cruising remaining schedules of races that I may attend, thought I noticed that the Oct. 4th MSCS event was $23.00 for general admission.Is this a misprint? Dave Rudicell, care to comment? I tried locating a motel there that night, but damn they were really proud of them also, to the tune of $110.00-$130.00.
Home doesn't look too bad, even if the stove is broke:wink

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Just cruising remaining schedules of races that I may attend, thought I noticed that the Oct. 4th MSCS event was $23.00 for general admission.Is this a misprint? Dave Rudicell, care to comment? I tried locating a motel there that night, but damn they were really proud of them also, to the tune of $110.00-$130.00.
Home doesn't look too bad, even if the stove is broke:wink

Yes, general admission is $23 for adults, pit pass $30
Its a $10,000 to win show, with the best sprint cars in the country competing!!
I'd pay $50 or more to see this show!!
Dave Rudisell:checkered:

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Dave,
you told me the other day to go to my room.for 23.00 i might just stay there.
Come on now. HAUBSTADT IS ONLY 20.00 FOR THE SAME TO WIN WITH THE SAME BUNCH OF DRIVERS.

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Originally Posted by SHORTBUS:
Dave,
you told me the other day to go to my room.for 23.00 i might just stay there.
Come on now. HAUBSTADT IS ONLY 20.00 FOR THE SAME TO WIN WITH THE SAME BUNCH OF DRIVERS.

Are you saying this show is not worth $23.00 ???

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Originally Posted by SHORTBUS:
Dave,
you told me the other day to go to my room.for 23.00 i might just stay there.
Come on now. HAUBSTADT IS ONLY 20.00 FOR THE SAME TO WIN WITH THE SAME BUNCH OF DRIVERS.

Shortbus, Haubstadt tickets are $23 for reserved seats which is this:These seats have back rests and more leg room. Cost per event is an additional $3 over the cost of the grandstand ticket.
All of the seats at Lawrenceburg have this feature, So there you have it. Ha!!
Just having fun with ya.
Later,Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
Yes, general admission is $23 for adults, pit pass $30
Its a $10,000 to win show, with the best sprint cars in the country competing!!
I'd pay $50 or more to see this show!!
Dave Rudisell:checkered:

Do you realize that USAC is running Midgets @ THAT the same night?

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Is this a 50 lap race then as advertised?

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
Yes, general admission is $23 for adults, pit pass $30
Its a $10,000 to win show, with the best sprint cars in the country competing!!
I'd pay $50 or more to see this show!!
Dave Rudisell:checkered:

Dave is there a fee to enter the car or does the pit pass get the car and driver in.

Thank you.

Jerry #66j
www.joshspencer.com

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Originally Posted by Jerry Spencer:
Dave is there a fee to enter the car or does the pit pass get the car and driver in.

Thank you.

Jerry #66j
www.joshspencer.com

Check MSCS site they may have more info

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Check MSCS site they may have more info

Thank you Chuck, we also need to know if there is a radio fee or a transponder charge. If they use radios will the radio we have for U.S.A.C. work. As with every team out there with gas and the extras we are looking at things real close at this point in time. ( Every team including the larger funded teams are down to the last dollar right now) I hope they are not using radios as our driver hates not being able to hear anything around him including the motor. Thank you for all your help.

Jerry # 66j
www.joshspencer.com

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Originally Posted by dave rudisell:
shortbus, haubstadt tickets are $23 for reserved seats which is this:these seats have back rests and more leg room. Cost per event is an additional $3 over the cost of the grandstand ticket.
All of the seats at lawrenceburg have this feature, so there you have it. Ha!!
Just having fun with ya.
Later,dave

dave,
the seats at haubstat are reserved if you so desire.they have a heck of a lot more room & are way more comfortable than those at the burg.-- i am 85 miles from haubstadt --- 3 miles from the hut hundred which is looking like it may be a better choice $$$ wise. ( 12.00 ) or maybe even free -- or ican drive 175 mile to the burg for 23.00 addmission --i got freinds in low places -- lol

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Jerry,

I don't know if MSCS requires Raceceivers or not. As Chuck said check the MSCS website.

For a regular Lawrenceburg show radios are required. Unfortunately the frequency that we use (454.00) is not the same as USAC. If you already have a USAC radio you can have a that channel added for $20 I believe. Check with Ted Hines as he is the one who told me about it.

Sandy

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I am just glad to have a race to go watch the non wing sprints this late in the season here in the midwest.Dave is there a raindate if needed for this event,hopefully we will not have to use it.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Spencer:
Thank you Chuck, we also need to know if there is a radio fee or a transponder charge. If they use radios will the radio we have for U.S.A.C. work. As with every team out there with gas and the extras we are looking at things real close at this point in time. ( Every team including the larger funded teams are down to the last dollar right now) I hope they are not using radios as our driver hates not being able to hear anything around him including the motor. Thank you for all your help.

Jerry # 66j
www.joshspencer.com

Jerry, all i could find was the cost of a temporary permit of $25 and nothing else on the MSCS website.
I'm with you on the "last dollar right now" deal. The season is making alot of teams re-think their time on the track.

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Originally Posted by Jerry Spencer:
Thank you Chuck, we also need to know if there is a radio fee or a transponder charge. If they use radios will the radio we have for U.S.A.C. work. As with every team out there with gas and the extras we are looking at things real close at this point in time. ( Every team including the larger funded teams are down to the last dollar right now) I hope they are not using radios as our driver hates not being able to hear anything around him including the motor. Thank you for all your help.

Jerry # 66j
www.joshspencer.com

Jerry, Lawrenceburg Speedway requires radios in the sprint division, however, I don't know if this will apply to the MSCS sanctioned show. If you have the "$125USAC" earpieces already, I believe you can rent the radio for $10 from the "Burg", as those earplugs work with these radios.

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Mr. Rudisell,

What will the tire changing rules be for this race.

If you cut a tire in the feature you are done for the night? :thumbsdown:


Dave Bayless

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
Yes, general admission is $23 for adults, pit pass $30
Its a $10,000 to win show, with the best sprint cars in the country competing!!
I'd pay $50 or more to see this show!!
Dave Rudisell:checkered:

Best cars in the country??? Here is the comparison of last time they ran against each other. Aug 2, 2008. Haubstadt(One of the best tracks in the country that charged $20 for this $10,000 MSCS race) vs Belleville

Haubstadt Feature
MSCS Sprints
Feature

1. Brady Short
2. Kyle Cummins
3. Robert Ballou
4. Thomas Meseraull
5. Kevin Briscoe
6. Hud Cone
7. Blake Fitzpatrick
8. John Memmer
9. Jeff Bland
10. Kevin Thomas, Jr.
11. Lance Grimes
12. Jerry Ruble
13. Alex Shanks
14. Henry Clarke
15. Mitch Wissmiller
16. Chase Stockon
17. Cory Kruseman
18. Daron Clayton
19. Ricky Williams
20. Hunter Schuerenberg
21. Shane Cottle

IMO top cars=5

Belleville Midget
FEATURE: (40 laps) 1. Brad Sweet, 2. Bobby East, 3. Brady Bacon, 4. Cole Whitt, 5. Tracy Hines, 6. Brad Kuhn, 7. Davey Ray, 8. Dustin Morgan, 9. Adam Clarke, 10. Brad Loyet, 11. Darren Hagen, 12. Dakoda Armstrong, 13. Jonathan Beason, 14. Dave Darland, 15. Levi Jones, 16. Gary Altig, 17. Chris Windom (#17x), 18. Cody Brewer, 19. Terry Goodwin, 20. Ryan Cole, 21. Jerry Coons Jr., 22. Kevin Swindell (#75x), 23. Bryan Clauson, 24. Chad McDaniel. NT

IMO top cars=15

Not even close.

As I recall Haubstadt only had 37 cars and Belleville even fewer maybe 25, and with the poor car counts a L'burg all year I would be concerned. $23 is more then any other race including USAC, except for 4Crown which has Sprints, Midgets, and Silver Crown and is USAC sanctioned. You decide??

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The MSCS site shows that last year, 71 sprint cars were at the Burg . Granted, no midget show at Terre Haute. I will be there with the $23, to see Mark and Kyle Cummins take their 2nd straight MSCS Championship.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Home doesn't look too bad, even if the stove is broke:wink

:rolling:rolling:rolling:rolling

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Originally Posted by kawkaw2:
Best cars in the country??? Here is the comparison of last time they ran against each other. Aug 2, 2008. Haubstadt(One of the best tracks in the country that charged $20 for this $10,000 MSCS race) vs Belleville

Haubstadt Feature
MSCS Sprints
Feature

1. Brady Short
2. Kyle Cummins
3. Robert Ballou
4. Thomas Meseraull
5. Kevin Briscoe
6. Hud Cone
7. Blake Fitzpatrick
8. John Memmer
9. Jeff Bland
10. Kevin Thomas, Jr.
11. Lance Grimes
12. Jerry Ruble
13. Alex Shanks
14. Henry Clarke
15. Mitch Wissmiller
16. Chase Stockon
17. Cory Kruseman
18. Daron Clayton
19. Ricky Williams
20. Hunter Schuerenberg
21. Shane Cottle

IMO top cars=5

Belleville Midget
FEATURE: (40 laps) 1. Brad Sweet, 2. Bobby East, 3. Brady Bacon, 4. Cole Whitt, 5. Tracy Hines, 6. Brad Kuhn, 7. Davey Ray, 8. Dustin Morgan, 9. Adam Clarke, 10. Brad Loyet, 11. Darren Hagen, 12. Dakoda Armstrong, 13. Jonathan Beason, 14. Dave Darland, 15. Levi Jones, 16. Gary Altig, 17. Chris Windom (#17x), 18. Cody Brewer, 19. Terry Goodwin, 20. Ryan Cole, 21. Jerry Coons Jr., 22. Kevin Swindell (#75x), 23. Bryan Clauson, 24. Chad McDaniel. NT

IMO top cars=15

Not even close.

As I recall Haubstadt only had 37 cars and Belleville even fewer maybe 25, and with the poor car counts a L'burg all year I would be concerned. $23 is more then any other race including USAC, except for 4Crown which has Sprints, Midgets, and Silver Crown and is USAC sanctioned. You decide??

Poor car count??? we have had two races with a bad car count, 21 and 20.
We have had 35, 38,41,21,29,20,34 cars in our shows not counting sprintweek.
Looking back in the late summer car count always drops down for a few weeks after sprintweek. Nonetheless, every show has been some great racing no matter how many cars we have had, The talent that has been in those fields have been awesome.
The MSCS 10,000 to win will be no exception!!
Have fun life is short, Dave Rudisell

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The rules are on the mscs site,
46 LEAVING THE TRACK - If you leave the track at any time during a race, other than the A-Main, you cannot return.

1) However, during the A-Main you will be given the opportunity to pit and re-enter the race under a red or yellow flag condition. To be eligible to use the work area in the A-Main during a yellow or red flag, you must have a right front, right rear, or left rear tire that is down or have a nerf bar that is impeding the rolling of a tire on your car.
2) Timing for the number of laps to be counted to wait to restart the race begins when the first car reaches the work area.
3) No adding of fuel will be allowed.


they are a sanction and we will run by thier rules for this event. here is a link to the rules www.mscssprints.com/rules.htm
Thanks, Dave

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Dave, whats the payoff for this race? thanks

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Originally Posted by jd1sprint:
Dave, whats the payoff for this race? thanks

Its $10,000 to win, the rest i don't know right now. Go to www.mscssprints.com
and there is info there and you can call them.
Thanks, Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
The rules are on the mscs site,
46 LEAVING THE TRACK - If you leave the track at any time during a race, other than the A-Main, you cannot return.

1) However, during the A-Main you will be given the opportunity to pit and re-enter the race under a red or yellow flag condition. To be eligible to use the work area in the A-Main during a yellow or red flag, you must have a right front, right rear, or left rear tire that is down or have a nerf bar that is impeding the rolling of a tire on your car.
2) Timing for the number of laps to be counted to wait to restart the race begins when the first car reaches the work area.
3) No adding of fuel will be allowed.


they are a sanction and we will run by thier rules for this event. here is a link to the rules www.mscssprints.com/rules.htm
Thanks, Dave

Thanks for responding Dave.

Have you thought about adapting a similar rule for your weekly shows?

I think that some of your low car counts may reflect you current policy of not allowing racers to change tires.

I know this is your first season since getting the track reconfigured and there is some debris still in the racing surface.

I sure you guys will be working on this over the off season, but it sure would be nice to allow some of the fans get a chance to see their favorite drivers finish the race if they had a tire issue in the feature.:thumb

Thanks

Dave Bayless

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Lets see here I suspect that the drivers that run Midgets will be at Terre Haute. The drivers that run Sprint cars will be at Lawrenceburg. So what does that leave us plenty of drivers at the Burg and the Haute on Oct. 4th. I would guess that there will be 40 cars at Terre Haute and 45 at The Burg the same nite. You folks concerend about the TALENT must not be watching the young drivers in the sprinters right now. This group of under 20 kids is the best there is no questions about it!!!! SO stay home and mope if your worrierd about how good the racings gonna be I know its gonna be good just like all year had been!

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Originally Posted by d17b:
Thanks for responding Dave.

Have you thought about adapting a similar rule for your weekly shows?

I think that some of your low car counts may reflect you current policy of not allowing racers to change tires.

I know this is your first season since getting the track reconfigured and there is some debris still in the racing surface.

I sure you guys will be working on this over the off season, but it sure would be nice to allow some of the fans get a chance to see their favorite drivers finish the race if they had a tire issue in the feature.:thumb

Thanks

Dave Bayless

I agree 100 percent. Air presures are another reason for the flats when they sit and cool them tires go down from about three pounds more than what they hit the track with to a couple pounds less, and they hit the cushion like that. POP right off the bead.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I agree 100 percent. Air presures are another reason for the flats when they sit and cool them tires go down from about three pounds more than what they hit the track with to a couple pounds less, and they hit the cushion like that. POP right off the bead.

There are many reason for the rule we have, The biggest is safety, i have heard horror stories of people getting ran over and killed in the pits from cars exciting the track fast trying to get thier car fixed. Also, when someone fast goes off and starts on the tail, accidents happen because he/she is fighting their way to the front in a short period of time. I could go on and on. There are many positives and negative concearning this rule. We will evaluate the rule in the off season and try to come up with a reasonable solution.
Maybe it just me, but it seems to me the only ones who have had tire issues are the guys running up front. Either way thanks for everyones imput and we will work on that issue this winter.
Sincerely, Dave Rudisell

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One more thing, I really don't think this rule is keeping any racers away, No racer is going to anticipate being in the feature and have a tire go down. More times than not, if you have a tire go down and leave the track and start on the tail you are not going to win that race. There are a few that could do this, but not alot!
Take care, Dave

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Agree this track rule needs to be changed. I've seen too many races their where the tire goes flat because of the lengthy red. The racing has been awesome but to lose some of the front runners and hard chargers because of a flat tire is wrong. Anyone at the burg who saw Bacon charge from the rear to finish 6th with the USAC midgets would agree that this rule needs to be changed.

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Dave,

Thanks for listening and having an open mind in regards to reviewing the tire rule over the winter.

Hope you and your group can come up with some type of solution.

I appreciate you coming on here and having an open cival discussion, more times than not it seems like that it is difficult to do that here.

I do know for a fact that the rule has weighed on various teams decisions not to make the trip down.

It is not the anticipation of a tire going down in the feature, it is the opportunity to have a chance to obtain the results you were looking for, ultimately a win.
I will take a second chance anytime, to make that happen.


If you were to ask most of the fans, I think they would rather see a Schuremburg, a Stanbrough a Bland or a Bacon charging from the back of the pack after they had a flat and changed it, rather than not seeing them participate in the feature after such an incident.

P.S. dont tell a true racer he doesn't have a chance to win from the back, you might just make him mad. Some of the best races I have witnessed are when a hot shoe is in the back working their way to the front with the hope of winning.........



Thanks

Dave Bayless

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
There are many reason for the rule we have, The biggest is safety, i have heard horror stories of people getting ran over and killed in the pits from cars exciting the track fast trying to get thier car fixed. Also, when someone fast goes off and starts on the tail, accidents happen because he/she is fighting their way to the front in a short period of time. I could go on and on. There are many positives and negative concearning this rule. We will evaluate the rule in the off season and try to come up with a reasonable solution.
Maybe it just me, but it seems to me the only ones who have had tire issues are the guys running up front. Either way thanks for everyones imput and we will work on that issue this winter.
Sincerely, Dave Rudisell

And thats all anyone can ask. I think it's pretty dangerous to let cars sit for ten minutes while there bleeders vent the air built up. The first red causing the second one as it were (NOT based on fact but it's reasonable and mentioned by car owners before in a USAC viewpoint for open reds)

I totally understand the off track actions of someone being dangerous but pushed off the track with a quad or push truck and returning to the chute IMHO is nothing.

The race of the Gaines Memorial were bland and Dickie comeing fromt he tail to the front. Thats not dangerous, Thats racing :)
And I don't think its unfair to those who can make the whole race. They might need that break next week. :)

Take care. Hope to make a couple more.
Chuck Who seriously wants to see the MSCS on the fourth but a couple situations are going on, price isn't the factor but would be if it's the 35-45 dollar deal that WOO is charging.

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You guys that are complaining about three extra dollars for a 10K to win show are the same that paid $20 for a 5K to win race and was happy to do it for the USAC shows.

:P:P:P:P:P

Have fun where ever you all go

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Originally Posted by chris nunn:
you guys that are complaining about three extra dollars for a 10k to win show are the same that paid $20 for a 5k to win race and was happy to do it for the usac shows.

:p:p:p:p:p

have fun where ever you all go

chris,
how much do you pay to get in ? Lol

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I pay for it enough when I get home late :P

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Originally Posted by SHORTBUS:
chris,
how much do you pay to get in ? Lol

:rolling:rolling

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After the yellow flag happy flag man they had last year, which made for one boring show.

The answer is easy, go to THAT for The Hut 100. And if you are a HARF member you get a discount.

See you all at THAT 10/4.

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I cant believe the complaining that goes on concerning a $23 or $20 ticket price??? Its only $3 bucks. I will be there with a group of people and we would pay $30 bucks to see a $10,000 to win Sprintcar Race.

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Originally Posted by BIGEBUDMAN:
I cant believe the complaining that goes on concerning a $23 or $20 ticket price??? Its only $3 bucks. I will be there with a group of people and we would pay $30 bucks to see a $10,000 to win Sprintcar Race.

THATS JUST THE IDEA.TODAY 23.00 TOMMOROW 30.00,NEXT YEAR 35.00.GIVE ME A BREAK.IM OLD & FEABLE & ON A FIXED INCOME.WHERE DOES IT END. :wink:wink

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What about the All Star Show $10,000 to win, this Saturday pit pass $35 grandstand $25.

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Don't forget about the DOT inspections before you get to the track and the Locals waiting to stop you for "suspision" and give you a seat belt tickets so they can search your vehicle for drugs or a DUI if you have beer in a cooler. :thumbsdown:

The not returning to the track rule definatly needs to be changed. Pay all that money to come race then not get to is just a waist of a racers time and efforts.

I also can't understand not being able to add fuel? Whats that all about?:confused: