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Another case of "why??"
USAC is running tomorrow night for a great payout of $10,000 to win and $1,000 to start at Eldora...
But something I just read made my jaw drop. The World Modified...yes..Modified Dirt Track Championship at Deer Creek Speedway just announced that a sponsor just decided to throw in an extra $30,000 into the feature purse...alone. This just boggles my mind that a race pays that much for Modifieds. If i ever hit the lottery, theres going to be a massive amount of HUGE HUGE paying Sprint Car races here in Indiana. Heres the payout for this Modified race 1. $25,000 2. $13,500 3. $8,700 4. $6,700 5. $5,500 6. $5,200 7. $3,500 8. $3,300 9. $2,650 10. $2,500 11. $2,500 12. $2,400 13. $2,350 14. $2,300 15. $2,250 16. $2,200 17. $2,150 18. $2,100 19. $2,000 20. $1,925 21. $1,850 22. $1,775 23. $1,650 24. $1,600 25. $1,550 26. $1,500 27. $1,500 28. $1,500 29. $1,500 30. $1,500 31. $1,500 |
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We hope you do Chris. It is sad that those dadblamed modifieds get a purse that more deservedly should go to the sprinters, especially in Indiana.
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to be fair to those guys, in Minnesota, you cant swing a dead cat without hitting a modified...theres TONS of them up there.
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A bunch of wasted money for guys who are to afraid to run a nonwing sprint car or silver crown car
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What about this payout, I didn't add it up I can't get past 20 & that's w/ my shoes off:8:
1 - 12000 2 - 11000 3 - 10500 4 - 10000 5 - 9500 6 - 9000 7 - 8500 8 - 8000 9 - 7500 10 - 7000 11 - 6500 12 - 6000 13 - 5500 14 - 5000 15 - 4500 16 - 4000 17 - 3500 18 - 3000 19 - 2500 20 - 2000:44: |
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This isnt a post to slam or bash anyone else. I was just comparing purses to different events. Those guys that run Modifieds up there for a living in the USMTS series have A TON of money in those rides...comparible to most high dollar Sprint Car teams.
Anyone who has the guts to step foot in any race car of any kind is risking their life for our entertainment...and for that, they should never be questioned on how much "balls" or "guts" they have. Instead, they should be thanked for the entertainment they give us on any given day we step foot into the race track to watch them apply their trade. ---------- Post added at 11:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 PM ---------- Check out the part in bold The purse was already nearly $150,000 for the weekend, with $89,650 earmarked for Saturday night's A-Main. The main event purse is now $119,650 plus the additional cash that will be spread out through the field from the proceeds of the auction for the 31st starting spot. Second place in Saturday's main event will now pay $12,500 and every position behind that will share in $25,000 of added money. Two drivers will have a 50/50 chance at the other $5,000. At the conclusion of the A-Main, two drivers from two connected finishing positions (16th and 17th, for instance) will stop on the racetrack after the checkered flag waves. The higher finisher will call "heads" or "tails" on the flip of a coin. If he's right he gets the $5k, if not it goes to the other driver. |
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It drives me crazy because we drive 600 miles and more from South Carolina to watch sprint cars and someone pays that for modifieds that I wouldn't walk 3 feet to see.
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I need to find me a modified ride!
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I'm there and it's a great track, good format, about 100 mods trying to make the big show and three good nites of racin so far. Every nite has been run very efficient and with 90 some mods tonite the final 35 lap feature was done by 10:15.
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Shu I will let you turn some laps one night in a mod
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Originally Posted by mayor31: |
Some sprint car fans are so stuck up its unbelievable. Sprint car racing is great and it has a loyal fan base. I hate to break everyone's heart but there are not as many sprint car fans as there are modified fans. Modifieds are across
the country, and are very big in the Midwest (Iowa, Minnesota, ect). Nonwing Sprint cars are mainly Indiana and California. If you go to iowa with a non wing car I bet fans would act like your the support class to the mods. As for the race its an excellent format and outstanding purse. Deer creek is a top notch track that hopefully I will make it to someday. I'd drive to Iowa to watch this if I wasn't racing myself. As for a big paying sprint car race, the reason there aren't any with purses like this is because they don't attract enough cars. If all the circumstances were right a race with this purse for sprints would be lucky to attract 75 sprints. There are just not enough non wing cars to support it. The mopar million had a much larger purse and It attracted 138 cars. And that was at a time when the economy was much better and there was a lot more cars around. This mod race attracted over 150 cars last year. What it boils down to is where you are. If you are in Indiana and California than nonwing sprints might be the top clasS and a fan favorite. Pensilvania is all about the wing sprints. But if you are in pretty much the rest of the country late models and mods are the fan's favorite class. Posted via Mobile Device[COLOR="Black"] ---------- Post added at 12:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:43 AM ---------- I bet a lot of race fans in Iowa wouldn't walk 3 feet to watch a sprint race the paid $25000. Big country and sprints are king everywhere. That's why they are running a big mod race. Cause that's their main class. Posted via Mobile Device |
Awesome mayor, would love to!
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Originally Posted by cshuman: |
Now I just need a bomber ride!
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Originally Posted by Danny Burton: |
I was at this race last year. Some of the best racing I've ever seen from any class. 4 wide racing. Very impressive!
As I drove around the property I saw a lot of people wearing modified drivers shirts(something you don't see in Indiana much). It reminded me of the following WoO and USAC receives. Deer Creek Speedway knows how to put together an "EVENT"! If you're a real race fan I highly recommend attending this event at least once. Last but not least... Fans that are always whining about modifieds need to drink a glass of stfu. Posted via Mobile Device |
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It seems things in Indiana just go this way as in a lot of other parts of the country guys run for more money on a regular basis. Back east the DIRT modifiers run at their weekly track for an average of $2,000-$2,500 to win and two weeks ago the winner at Lebanon Valley for the regular show got $5,000. Lebanon also has the highest point fund that I can find for a Saturday night track...$100,000. How does he do it? The Outlaws were there last weekend and the 50/50 paid over $7,600 and weekly their 50/50 pays at least $2,000. I believe that Williams Grove paid nearly $5,000 to win a weekly show last night and tonight at New Egypt the heat races pay $500.00 to win and the feature for the modifieds will pay $1,000 to start and $20,000 to win I believe. Not causing trouble just pointing out that the wingless cars are just conditioned to run for less money and they will until someone raises the bar and every other track will have to follow suit. Is the racing in Indiana better than what we have back east...most of the time yes it is. If they paid per slide job you guys would be rich!:6:
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I'm absolutely stunned that Chris Nunn would start a thread about mods or late models on here!!......just stunned!!!:3:
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thanks Cecil, my obligatory one a year
Posted via Mobile Device ---------- Post added at 8:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 8:29 AM ---------- I did a count and I've been to 34 sprint car races this year and a mind blowing THREE late model races :O Posted via Mobile Device |
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Originally Posted by Chris Nunn: |
im having the most fun ive had this year in a long long time
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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner: |
I think they use to have a 100,000 to win race about 5 to 10 years ago for mods can't remember where
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There are alot of sprint car drivers running modifieds these days. Nunn just do me 1 favor, when you win the lottery and put on this big race.... Whatever you do keep usac out of it!!!!!!!!!!
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I suggest some promoters get together and push to get a "mod week" going. Have to run support class! I think Thurs-THAT, Fri-Bloomington, Sat-Pville, Sun-Paragon. Then fill in Mon-Wed to get a good 7 straight! Get Pierce, Impressive, Rayburn, Mullins, Guerte, Hoosier etc to all step up and make this 3-4-5K to win with a points fund that pays the same! Maybe some kind of bonus for multiple wins! I think it would work. Just have to be far away from Sprintweek, give the wife time to calm down in between! Lol
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hey shu, i can put a gitney together in about 2-3 hours. :3:. the mod race you where refering to bland was at batesville ark. it was a hundred grand to win and all the top late model guys ran it.(ALLTELL 100). they sponsoered ryan newman at the time.
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"Fans that are always whining about modifieds need to drink a glass of stfu."
Now that is funny,,,I don't care who you are! Good line, Bill!:8: |
Originally Posted by Pitpass: Posted via Mobile Device |
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Are they real modifieds or the ump things ? No whining here but they all suck, just one more than the other.
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new here i live here in north alabama and i only wished i lived in sprint car country those races i have saw footage of are some of the best racing i have seen granted we have late models here and thats our feature class but what i would give to live in indiana to see sprints weekly! as for the modifieds i just wish they would give them some tires! because they have no grip at my local tracks
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I think some of those guys that run USMTS like Ryan Gustin could hop in a sprint and hold their own. Maybe this show, all the big late model and winged sprint shows, and even the local tracks that pay better than most non-wing events are able to do it because they draw good crowds, have great racing, and get sponsors to support what they do. It's hard for some people to see the good racing that goes on in other classes when their nose is so high in the air.
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It really dont matter what kind of racing you like, just get off the **** computer and go and support it somewhere before all we have is the computer to yack about the old times.
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The entry fee is $300 early and $400 at the gate. If they get 150 cars as some say that's $45,000 which will pay the first and second place purse it then drops off pretty steeply from there.
Pit passes are $35 Wed-Fri and $40 Saturday. The Wed-Fri qualifiers do not pay well at all. Hard for anyone except the top 5 cars and the promotor to make money at this event. As for the modified lovers on here there is a modified section of the forum but it doesn't seem to be very popular. . |
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I kind of like it when folks leave after the sprint car feature, as we watch the modifieds run their feature, usually pretty good, and then we just get to drive right out of the parking lot with no back up at all. The guys that left after the sprint feature had to sit in traffic for a half/hour anyway. Keep up the good work.
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Its funny to listen to some of you guys whin about other groups paying a higher purse then what they do for sprint cars. I can't afford to run our midgets or silver crown cars anymore so I went back to racing go karts. Most of the races we run are paying any where from 1,500 to 20,000 to win. Some races are even paying more then that. Are they as exciting as sprint cars, nope. But when you go to a race and have 100 plus entries in one class, it makes it woth it.
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The answer to higher purses lies within quality management and marketing (with some energy and imagination) of a sprint car organization.
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I have the feeling I should guzzle a glass of stfu sooner rather than later.
I think it's great there are tracks that can successfully run big money races for basically a support division. I too, would like to know why there aren't high dollar purses for wingless sprinters. I, like many of you, was at the Mopar Million several years ago and I gotta' believe Mr. Baltes & Company made money on that deal. To a mere spectator like myself it's a mystery as to why big dollar wingless sprint shows haven't caught on. I'm sure promoters and other insiders can give insight. That said, for all who love the modified's come on over here to The Land O' Lincoln and crooked politicians. There must be 10,000 of 'em over here racing every week. We don't whine about 'em (this being the exception) and we definitely don't have our nose in the air, either. We have 4 dirt tracks within an hour's drive of home and haven't set foot on any one of the 4 in at least 10 years. I have about a dozen or more race fan friends who have drastically cut their race spectating at local tracks, as well. To almost all of us it is simply too much modified's and not enough headliner. You go to a weekly show over here and of the 4+ hours you are in the grandstands about 45 minutes is spent watching the headline division. We make our point with our dollars, or lack thereof. I'm gonna' take that drink of stfu now......................... |
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