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Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

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No....million times no

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Originally Posted by speed bump:
Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

Ole MOUTH DW. made a comment on the broadcast that this is just what nascrap needed to put fans back in the stands . I agree its a big joke any more .

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Originally Posted by speed bump:
Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

I agree, over the years there has been way to many coincedences to make NASCAR believable.

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Originally Posted by speed bump:
Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

I do agree to some extent that nascar is trying to fix the sports to draw in more fans but jr has always been fast qualifying there think he was on the front row last year. Maybe just a coincidence, guess we will never really know the truth will we?

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First let me say I’m not a NASCAR fan. And I’m certainly not a Dale Jr. fan. I do watch the races, but it’s on the garage TV while I’m working on my car. It’s racing; it’s still better than most of what’s on TV on a Sunday afternoon.
But if you think NASCAR rigged it so Dale Jr. could win the pole, well, that’s just ridicules. And it’s even more ridicules to think that they could rig it for him to win. But rather then start a big debate, just think about this. Picture them telling Tony Stewart, “Ok, we’re going to let Dale win today.” Do you really think he would swallow that?
Or for that matter, tell every one of the other 42 drivers that and get them to agree to it. Heck, I’ve never seen two drivers agree on what stagger to run, let alone who to let win a race!

Tom Paterson

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Originally Posted by speed bump:
Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

Didn't Junior have the pole at the Bud Shoot out also? I don't think he won that.

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Originally Posted by 1121:
First let me say I’m not a NASCAR fan. And I’m certainly not a Dale Jr. fan. I do watch the races, but it’s on the garage TV while I’m working on my car. It’s racing; it’s still better than most of what’s on TV on a Sunday afternoon.
But if you think NASCAR rigged it so Dale Jr. could win the pole, well, that’s just ridicules. And it’s even more ridicules to think that they could rig it for him to win. But rather then start a big debate, just think about this. Picture them telling Tony Stewart, “Ok, we’re going to let Dale win today.” Do you really think he would swallow that?
Or for that matter, tell every one of the other 42 drivers that and get them to agree to it. Heck, I’ve never seen two drivers agree on what stagger to run, let alone who to let win a race!

Tom Paterson

That aint how it is done. They just give him a restrictor plate with a little larger opening. Dont pay too much attention during inspection and all of a sudden he has the fastest car on the track. Pretty simple really, only way he could lose is to screw up and get in a wreck. And if you dont think thats how it happened the week after Dale died, the 1st time they went back to Daytona and Jr won, when Harvick won after replacing Dale and when Gordon won the 1st brickyard, I have some swampland in the Everglades I need to sell ya.

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His average starting position is 11.1 at Daytona, 9.9 at Texas and overall it's 16.1. So he does qualify well there. But that doesn't mean anything at Daytona.

I don't watch anything but Nascar on TV, I don't like football, baseball or hockey. But it is more and more like wrestling every year. I know Dale Sr was a big part of it, but I can't understand how thats all they can talk about.

My money is on Kevin Conway driving the Extenze car for Joe Need-a-check. I mean he has won a couple of USAC Regional Midget races...

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Yup jr started on the pole for the shootout.and crashed....jr is the most overated nascar driver around

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They would change the rules 36 times a year (seems like they do anyway) if that meant every race came down to winning by nose. I don’t get that. That is not racing. Not every race is going to be a classic. They seem to think you have to force that because they know they can’t generate that type of racing without rules changes every other day.

My favorite thing this week has been from the TV talking heads, “that racing Saturday night was great”. Really? Watching two cars basically become a stretch limo is racing? Racing is NOT needing a partner to go fast. They don’t seem to get that. Could you image Stanbrough getting out of the car and saying, “I just couldn’t get anybody to work with me and push, car was fast but I needed help, you can’t pass by yourself”. :17: What a joke. :11;

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It's well know in the past many things got over looked. Today is different and a plate is all they can give him.
Just make too much sense for JR to win Daytona this year. Only a crash or mistake will keep it away from him. NASCAR needs him to win this one.

Maybe someday Jimmy will get his car ready to race then call JR to it and peel off the Lowes decal for a JR car and send him off to race.
Perfect example of too much money and too many other things going on off the track for JR.
Remember when Jeff could drive a stock car? Now if it isn't perfect he doesn't drive it. The you got Stewart who still can drive a car perfect or not.

Nascar sucks but the start of the year in fun to watch. Once our season opens it becomes a great nap on Sundays between the first pit stops and 20 to go.

DOn't forget the Vogler Daytona 500 deal at t he Speedway on SUnday. A great time watching the race with open wheel and tin fans plus some great items you might pick up.

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Doors open at 10:30

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Originally Posted by D.O.:
Nascar sucks but the start of the year in fun to watch. Once our season opens it becomes a great nap on Sundays between the first pit stops and 20 to go.

Exactly how I feel.

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Originally Posted by openwheelKT:
They would change the rules 36 times a year (seems like they do anyway) if that meant every race came down to winning by nose. I don’t get that. That is not racing. Not every race is going to be a classic. They seem to think you have to force that because they know they can’t generate that type of racing without rules changes every other day.

My favorite thing this week has been from the TV talking heads, “that racing Saturday night was great”. Really? Watching two cars basically become a stretch limo is racing? Racing is NOT needing a partner to go fast. They don’t seem to get that. Could you image Stanbrough getting out of the car and saying, “I just couldn’t get anybody to work with me and push, car was fast but I needed help, you can’t pass by yourself”. :17: What a joke. :11;

Which is why I love wingless Sprints. No drafting, go fast or go home. I want to see some of the NASCRAP drivers who have never driven a sprint on dirt try it. Then we would see how good a driver actually is.

Originally Posted by mowerman:
Ole MOUTH DW. made a comment on the broadcast that this is just what nascrap needed to put fans back in the stands . I agree its a big joke any more .

That cali sun getting to you bob for you to actually watch!!!
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I am in shock!!!! I was starting to believe all that nascrap stuff and now you guys tell me its fixed!! Next thing you"ll tell me is professional wrestleing is fake too :18:

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Originally Posted by terrehautian:
Didn't Junior have the pole at the Bud Shoot out also? I don't think he won that.

Adam that parade is by a draw :43::

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Mr. Hoover May I ask how much is the wonderful land in the everglades is a acre? :2:

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Originally Posted by jim goerge:
I am in shock!!!! I was starting to believe all that nascrap stuff and now you guys tell me its fixed!! Next thing you"ll tell me is professional wrestleing is fake too :18:

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Adam that parade is by a draw :43::

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Mr. Hoover May I ask how much is the wonderful land in the everglades is a acre? :2:

Wrestling is fake....thanks for ruining it for me.

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Originally Posted by LittleRube:
That cali sun getting to you bob for you to actually watch!!!
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He's weaning hisself ONTO Nascar, so he can watch a full race when Bryan gets there...:32:

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It crack's me up that everyone claim's to hate NASCAR and "cannot watch that crap" but still have an opinion on something they"never saw"...lol Most people talk **** on J.R. for not running good and when he does do something "good" the same people still talk ****...

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I don't agree that the fix is in..Jr has run well before at Daytona..it's his best track...Why wouldn't they fix a few more for him the last three years?...Seems to me they are not scripting anything with Jimmy winning 5.

I am no fan either..but man..JR has to have thick skin to answer all the BS questions like " how does it feel now that your daddy has been dead 10 years?"....

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto:
My money is on Kevin Conway driving the Extenze car for Joe Need-a-check. I mean he has won a couple of USAC Regional Midget races...

Think of what Dick Trickle could have done with ExTenZe

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Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
Seems to me they are not scripting anything with Jimmy winning 5.

Good point, I really do think they know their product sucks. Not all of it sucks, but the end result for the last five years has.

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Someone said they soaked Jr's tires in secret sauce before he went out to qualify. Thats why it smelled like buffalo wings when he drove by :42:: :17:

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No way can wrestling be fake ol Dick the bruiser and bo bo with his co co butt to the head no way next thing your gonna start in on the easter bunny I know he is real where else would all of them plastic eaggs filled with candy come from. And besides Ovalmeister has a picture of him......

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I am not an Earnhardt Jr. fan in the least but would be very surprised if NASCAR orchestrated his winning the pole for the Daytona 500. It was clearly evident, however, that his Dad had NASCAR deeply in his pocket and they blatantly exercised that favortism many times and without prior conspiracy.

I would agree with an earlier post that it would be very hard to keep a conspiracy of that magnitude in efect and under wraps. There are many people who would love to uncover something like that for their own benefit. And that goes for all major sports.

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I wonder if they fixed it so he would wreck in practice! Good to know while I'm at work all my Facebook friends can report back the inevitable.

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I guess they fixed it so JR would crash his car on purpose, and fix it so he has to come all the way though the pack...

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They made the plates smaller, except for his so he can come from the back!

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I hate it when reality ruins a perfectly good conspiracy theory. Now NASCAR has to remove his restrictor plate completely and hope like hell he doesn’t run over a slower car again…......:31:

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the crash yesterday was planned just like everything else....it makes for a better story when he "overcomes" adversity and comes from the back to win..........this hasnt changed anything...nascar WANTS JR to win, but he doesnt have the ability to pull it off even if they "fix" it. he cant stay out of his own way!

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Yea..it would have to be fixed if he won in a car owned by Rick Hendrick...I have seen others say it was a conspiracy and fixed so the 48 would win all the time.

Call the FBI, we need to get to the bottom of this. I guess JR is the new conspiracy poster boy. Read this theory.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/blog/...=nascar-238330

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The idea that they would "fix" a race is completely absurd. Too many car owners have too much money tied up in their operations to go along with it. The drivers wouldn't go with the notion that "it's __________ turn to win this week". Not to mention that I doubt Nascar, and their independent contractors (owners, drivers and crews) would be able to hide a conspiracy that large. Having said that, the timing of caution flags when certain drivers are about to go a lap down or are in the "lucky dog" position opens them up for scrutiny and potential criticism of their practices. I haven't watched a Nascar race in years and don't miss it one bit.

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It's not nascar that I can't stand, they can do whatever they want. It's the Speed channel. Showing all this practice and they wrapped up 5 days of the Chili Bowl in one hour drives me crazy.

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Scooter, it all starts and ends with $$$$$$$$$$, and lots of them, just like High School stick and ball stuff, it's "minor league", a real rich man's game. cya soon! Bob

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Originally Posted by racefan20:
That aint how it is done. They just give him a restrictor plate with a little larger opening. Dont pay too much attention during inspection and all of a sudden he has the fastest car on the track. Pretty simple really, only way he could lose is to screw up and get in a wreck. And if you dont think thats how it happened the week after Dale died, the 1st time they went back to Daytona and Jr won, when Harvick won after replacing Dale and when Gordon won the 1st brickyard, I have some swampland in the Everglades I need to sell ya.

Actually, you need to go in the pits and see how the restrictor plates are pulled in the blind for each car. Maybe then you won't talk like you get your info in the restrooms!

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Originally Posted by ImissAscot:
It crack's me up that everyone claim's to hate NASCAR and "cannot watch that crap" but still have an opinion on something they"never saw"...lol Most people talk **** on J.R. for not running good and when he does do something "good" the same people still talk ****...

Amen to that!

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Originally Posted by scooter99:
It's not nascar that I can't stand, they can do whatever they want. It's the Speed channel. Showing all this practice and they wrapped up 5 days of the Chili Bowl in one hour drives me crazy.

Unfortunately, I guess, that fault lies with the dirt sprint fans. Viewer numbers are what sells the advertising space and ultimately what programs are aired.

Apparently, there are too many sprint fans who would rather come on a forum and ***** about the TV schedule than would take the time to watch dirt racing when it is actually on the tube!

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In other words, did NASCAR turn their heads when Jr., had a restrictor plate with slightly larger holes just like USAC supposedly turned their heads the night A.J. Foyt allegedly showed up at the Indiana State Fairgrounds with a 350 from his Chevy dealership stuffed into his sprinter when everyone else was running the 318? Foyt had been protested for jumping the start at Terre Haute earlier in the month and the USAC boys were supposedly tired of listening to one driver pop off his mouth and decided to let A.J. teach him a lesson.
At least, that's what I heard at the time.
The problem is proving it.

If NASCAR actually does things like this, all they can do is put a driver in a positiion to win. He still has to finish first.

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BTW, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Set up a toll booth and you'll make a million dollars a day.

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Originally Posted by speed bump:
Isn`t it strange how Dale JR. wins the pole ,on the 10th anniv. of his
fathers death at the same track......After he hasnt won a race in three seasons......
What a joke Nascar has become....... :7::21:

Exactly, but IMHO its worse. NASCAR's exploitation of the death of Earnhardt, Sr. for economic and promotional gain if not immoral is certainly unethical. It seems to tap into some sort of twisted sense of how to honor a person which sems to reside in the psyche of many but not all NASCAR "followers".

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I just think it is so "Ironic" that Michael Waltrip hasn't run a truck in how many years, hops into one for a one race deal that is on the day of the anniversary year of his first win at Daytona and Earnhardt's death and wins the race on the last lap. He did although run a good and smart race staying up front and out of trouble. Now you talk about good PR for NASCAR you can't get any better than that.
REH

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Originally Posted by bigmojo5:
In other words, did NASCAR turn their heads when Jr., had a restrictor plate with slightly larger holes just like USAC supposedly turned their heads the night A.J. Foyt allegedly showed up at the Indiana State Fairgrounds with a 350 from his Chevy dealership stuffed into his sprinter when everyone else was running the 318? Foyt had been protested for jumping the start at Terre Haute earlier in the month and the USAC boys were supposedly tired of listening to one driver pop off his mouth and decided to let A.J. teach him a lesson.
At least, that's what I heard at the time.
The problem is proving it.

If NASCAR actually does things like this, all they can do is put a driver in a positiion to win. He still has to finish first.

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BTW, I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. Set up a toll booth and you'll make a million dollars a day.

Jim, how much for the bridge? Is that the bridge to "no where"? I'll have to ck with my wife! :29:Bob

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Thought this was an open wheel board!

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I guess they have not developed a trick tire for the so called "FIX". I wonder what the odds in Vegas were on Trevor Bayne winning it?...Woods Brothers first win in a decade..FIXED...lolol

If the mafia had a fix as bad as this..someone would get WHACKED


I am not even a Nascar fan..I watch because of the open wheel guys..