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How different were the tires and motors back then? Wide of Sports went off the air in 1982 alot has changed since then.

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The beer was ice cold and the lady serving it was awful easy on the eyes.

Tim Wolffrum aka cowboy

Glad to see someone has their priorities straight.
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Maybe in the old days, but not today. I wish Gas was still $.69 a gallon like it was then. Guess what it ain't the old days, and its never going to be again. The differences in tires and motors is night and day. The only way that race could have happened was no water or rain, let the track rubber down from top to bottom to prevent dust. The next problem is the track would have been a tire eater. When I saw it raining there Sat. night I knew this is exactly what would happen. No one could have prepped the track decent, not even Tommy.

Luckily for me I saw a race at Grundy county Saturday nite that compared with Midget week at Putnamville. This took a lot af the sting out of Sunday but I didn't see a whole lot of support for that race on here.
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Wish you would have called me and told me.

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I respectfully disagree. If we were talking Midgets or Sprinters I would agree to a point but even they have not changed that much besides motors and fancy parts. Silver Crown cars have not changed that much. A tad faster and a little better tire. Other than that besides some widgets and gadgets I do not see enough that would make much of a change.

It was strictly a piss poor effort from USAC period. Not really surprising considering. They have been a Monkey Jacking a Football for awhile now.

Kevin Miller and his cronies need to step down from their positions.
I have not seen anything they have done that has been anything but a cluster F@@k. When they do pull off a good show it was not because of them.

If Mr. Miller has any dignity left he would step down on his own accord and walk away. He is a disgrace to open wheel dirt racing.

It is a shame USAC has come to this point but when you hire incompetent people to run the show you get what you get.

Sure we will all still go to the races but I do not know how anybody can defend the current staff at USAC. The have become a joke which is sad but true.

Start Packing up you office Kevin Miller... Maybe you can go BS another group that you actually have a freaking clue and collect a check from the Monster Truck group or who ever will still listen to you. SEE YA.

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I'm okay with much of what has been said besides the fact this is the 21st century and thats what the lights are for. Maybe what you all are really trying to say is its too hot for YOU to sit in the stands. Day racing was one of the factors that drove me to the track yesterday alongside the pitting in the infield. I have seen races put on during the day at many tracks with great results. Look at kokomo, most nights the lights are on for only the features. I don't know how many years I watched sunday day shows at four crown, track typically looked better on sunday then it does any saturday night there now. Please keep trying to restore some of the traditions these cars were founded on usuc. Maybe they will reschedule it for another sunday afternoon in october. As far as everyone asking about track prep Jerry Olson was around on the scene. For you that don't remember the shenanigans of this man ask anyone you know about the 2000 nwwc. As I remember one particular night he kicked everyone out the stands to by another ticket and then cancelled the show. Real class act guy.

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I told several people that at Putnamville. Guess you should have been there.

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Not trying to start an argurment,but if the track was packed as tight as it looked like it was and according to what some people already said about moisture being under the sealed over top layer of dirt,this race would've probably been a dust bowl even if they would've ran it at night It's more about track prep than it being a day or night show.

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Should they have graded up the track and collected the rain under these circumstances?

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I am still amazed on the fact that people actually think LPS is going to get a race for Sprint week or the fact that they think it is that great of a racetrack. I do not understand either why they are running saturday night when they are running down at Tri-State.

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I can defend them. They are technically a non-profit, but the board has decided to focus on generating revenue. The fact is, for USAC, off road racing generates 20x the revenue of circle tracking. With the pressure to focus on revenue, there is no other option than to neglect the circle tracks and rely on the tracks themselves for safe preparation and marketing. There is an attitude that these races 'just happen' and USAC is doing everybody a favor by showing up and waving the flags. For many years, USAC kept its integrity while still being controversial, but so much changed in the last few years. The USAC emblem wasn't always for sale in the way it is today. I do wish them good luck in snowmobile track preparation and whatever additional ventures they decide to take on.

I can tell u obviously haven't been to LPS since Spiker took it over, if ever !!!They are a Saturday track and do not affect the car counts elsewhere due to the 2 + hour drive. I've seen some of the best sprint drivers at LPS many Saturday nights!! Darland, Stanbrough, Hollingsworth, Christian, Tmez, Cottle, to mention a few!
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LPS is a really nice track. Spiker has really done a good job with the track. The setting of LPS is really neat too being the stands are on a hill side. I am a big THAT fan, but if they do the same track prep as Sunday. I don't want a race there day or night race, because I am afraid if they do track prep like that again, there is going to be a serious wreck that will hurt someone. Another thing about LPS, it is about as equal as a track as one could be. A small town racer can whop up on those national racers.

LPS should get a ISW date sometime and it made sense to move the race 30 minutes to LPS over other tracks.

As for competing with TSS, not likely. Local racers will likely go to LPS if they know they can't compete with million dollar teams.

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This has got to be the all-time most looked at post for a 24 hr time frame. Now for THAT when Sprint Week happens I am there and want to see a great race just like in the days past.

They don't affect the car count due to the 2+ hour drive? Well that's odd. I could've swore I saw quite a few Terre Haute area drivers at Tri-State this year and last. Shows how much you actually get away from the front of your computer.
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There is drivers that do ISW (Blake Fitz, Chase S., and a few others), but there others who would rather go to where there isn't the million dollar hauler teams and would go to Putnamville if they were at TSS due to being able to compete with the local drivers over those others (like Krockenberger Racing to name one).

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After attending races at Bloomington on Friday night and Belle-Clair on Saturday night, I had done considerable driving and had two really late nights, and I had observed frequent lightning while driving back to Evansville from Belleville, also, I had heard there was some heavy weather to the north. So, after getting only about 3 hours of sleep, I decided I had better check IOW before heading to THAT. When I saw that there had been heavy rain at THAT, I thought that I would call off the trip, as I was extremely tired, but I attend every sprint, Silver Crown and midget event at THAT and just couldn't listen to my better judgment.
In hindsight, I should have listened to my head, not my heart. I guess I tend to be forgiving, as I have had other less than stellar days at THAT, including the April 9, 2000 NAMAR Hut Hundred that was mentioned in another thread, but I still return.
I hope they get things straightened out before ISW, as I would hate to see THAT cease to exist. I saw my first race there in 1967 and always looked forward to any event that is run there.
This had to be among the most disappointing days I have spent at a race track. I am sure the diehards like me will return, but the casual or first time fans probably will not.
Wouldn't it be interesting to hear what Jack Kraemer would have to say about yesterday?

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usac never really recovered from the plane crash back in the 1970's.it has been down hill ever since then.

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And if anybody knows how to get USAC back out of Indiana Sprint Week, now would be a really great time to call an owners meeting :) Mud Packer is right, I do have a chip on my shoulder. I wish it was only one chip, because the load just keeps getting heavier.

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Did you ever go to Sprintweek before USAC was invited in? I did and parking and finding a seat was never a problem.

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I'm told there were tons more sprint cars there and it was a lot harder to make the feature. You probably found a good spot since so many of the die hard USAC fans were in the pits getting their non-usac sprint cars ready:) Do you recall the car count?

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Sprintweek before USAC wasn't half the event it is now. Hell they had winged races, Even races at Eldora for INDIANA sprint week.

The pay other than the win was nothin either.

Chuck

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You mean those crazy cats were out there racing for something other than money? They actually thought that there's something in the water in Ohio, too? You mean they didn't follow a NASCAR business model but they still had a huge enough car cound that USAC wanted to be involved with it? How did that happen?

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I don't remember all the counts,but at the final show at Kokomo that year there were 14 cars and no cars in the top 8 in points made it to the last show. No one traveled to watch, there were no campers and no atmosphere. I was there. Trust me it was no big deal.

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Which year? 1987? Was there another race the same night?

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I am bad with years. I know it was the last year Lipkey ran Kokomo. Sprintweek was on life support, and the promoters had a meeting at the Waffle House in Martinsville to try and save it. It has been my favorite time of the year ever since.

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I didn:t know Tommy forced you to race that day. The way you look at things I can see why you don:t have a ride JT :7:

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Well, at least somebody tried to save the true spirit of Indiana Sprint Week. Glad to learn that part of USAC's history is the fact that not everybody always bent over for an emblem that is only as strong as the spirit behind it.

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The two best races in Indiana in 2011 have been at lps, midget week and this past saturday. It is also getting the highest car counts. It was once considered the best track in IN by many before Dave Allison, and it might be the best again.

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Funk and Charles are right. When ISW became a USAC event the whole week became a huge deal. Drivers and cars from the west coast, fans too! People from the east coast,fans from all over the midwest. TV too! Yes, let's boot USAC out, lets make ISW a glorified local deal. :14:

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The Grundy Co. race was one of the best midget races I've seen in a very long time. To come from last to first with a last-lap pass is pretty impressive. Hope USAC comes back there more.

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That was a great feature! :32:

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the locals make sprint week,if there wan't any locals there would be 10to 12 cars.

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I think LPS is back. The shows have been good. with that said the midget week show is only one in my top 5 for best of the year. Saturday was a good race.

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I didn't say "wan't any locals there would be 10to 12 cars". When ISW wasn't a USAC deal it was a local event. With the USAC sanction it became a big deal. That's the truth, I was at a few of those late 80's and early 90's ISW races, it wasn't that big of a deal. I'm also glad that the local car owners and drivers support ISW.

Ok first off you just showed you don't get away from LPS much if you say the best two races this year have been there. There have been great races at many tracks. You can't say LPS is the best if it's the only track you have been to. And they get great car counts only because there are many more smaller, low budget teams in that area.
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You could be right in that assumption, but with the recent events at THAT, I can completely understand people wanting to move the race to a different track.

It won't happen, but if I was traveling the sprint week tour this year, I would definitely be skipping Terre Haute unless USAC comes out and says who is doing track prep, and what's going on.