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SprintcarZF 3/27/16 3:10 PM

I don't know how you can say Cummins was drivin over his head. Sure he slid off the track in 3&4 while leading, but I do recall Brady and Robert sliding off the track while leading also along many other drivers throughout the field last night. I feel like he was just tryin to do what he had to do to get the win many drivers make that mistake in races all the time. His wins will come this season and there will be plenty of them.

ronmil 3/27/16 5:30 PM

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This was my first No Way Out 40, and I really enjoyed it. Thanks so much to the Morgans for their hospitality. Really enjoyed tailgating with all the gang and viewing the race with them, Mr. and Mrs. Dirtfan, and my trusty sidekick, Jim Goerges who does a good job keeping the bad buys away while I drive. Also talked to many other of my IOW friends during the evening, among them Brent Goodnight, Wingless lovers, Smith 19, MC rider, Al and Tom Pierce, and several more. Great way to start my outdoor season!

BrentTFunk 3/27/16 5:55 PM

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I thought it was a good race. The battle between Ballou, Clauson, and Cummins was really good. Darland was good coming through the field. Brady Short was maybe the run of the night in the last 6 laps of his B. The weather was great and it was over around 10:30. Also congrats to Max Mcghee on another track record.

Tumey's 55 3/27/16 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 441634)
Really, So why is Nascar and Indycar ONE BRAND ONLY, EVERYWHERE? They can't take their cars and run em anywhere else so its a monopoly but its also a choice Do it they're way or the highway

You may not like it but it is not illegal. Doesn't mean it is the right thing to do or that it is good for racing but it does not violate antitrust law. Also, NASCAR's tire war was not very successful and if I recall correctly drivers thought it was dangerous. Competition for speed led to high speed blow outs. I am not supporting either side but fighting a tire rule will be between drivers and tracks, not up to lawyers.

ronmil 3/27/16 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 441646)
I thought it was a good race. The battle between Ballou, Clauson, and Cummins was really good. Darland was good coming through the field. Brady Short was maybe the run of the night in the last 6 laps of his B. The weather was great and it was over around 10:30. Also congrats to Max Mcghee on another track record.

Agree with all of your post! I thought it was an excellent race! Brady Short and Dave Darland put on the drives of the night!

Knoke77 3/27/16 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chastaj (Post 441616)
What's bad is this is a direct violation of anti trust laws, and a good lawyer could put an end to it as it prevents "free trade", and the tracks are doing it to racers instead of just doing a durometer test and allowing any brand. This would not be breaking the laws like this 4 corner rule does. McCreary or any other manufacturer could sue if they have the $ and nerve. I don't think most tracks are aware that they are basically promoting a monopoly, which once again is against antitrust laws.

They have been there, done that. Google the following.

Judge Kicks Tires, Tosses Dirt Race Monopoly Lawsuit - Law360

SPRINTCAR 3/28/16 9:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 441633)
That's a actual line if you ask me for Brownstown, B Short used to run that the whole race diamond style. off the track on front and back stretch, huggin the tires in the corners.

Chucky, turn 4 is not the front or backstretch. ;)

Graham08 3/28/16 9:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueracer123 (Post 441631)
Yea sorry but your wrong. It would not hold up in court. Antitrust laws are in place so that no one person or corporation controls the entire market for one product or service. Aka, oil, cell phones, cars, ect. One track creating a rule that all four of the same tires on a car is not creating a monopoly.

If you don't like running all purple tires on your car. Do you have to race at that track? No! Just go to another track running your class that night and put on the other brand.

Now if every single track in the country said every single car had to run purple tires. Thus resoluting in the other brand going out of business. Then you can call monopoly and be angry about it.

Actually, it hasn't held up in court. Way back in the 80's, M&H sued over a track tire rule that spec'd Hoosiers somewhere up in the northeast. They lost. There was a similar suit in 2007 that was dismissed. Here's a link to an article talking about the 2007 suit that also references the 1984 ruling.

http://www.rubbernews.com/article/20...gainst-hoosier

I don't like spec tire rules in most instances, but that doesn't make them illegal.

SPRINTCAR 3/28/16 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SprintcarZF (Post 441637)
I don't know how you can say Cummins was drivin over his head. Sure he slid off the track in 3&4 while leading, but I do recall Brady and Robert sliding off the track while leading also along many other drivers throughout the field last night. I feel like he was just tryin to do what he had to do to get the win many drivers make that mistake in races all the time. His wins will come this season and there will be plenty of them.

I think he went off turn 4 at least 3 times in a row, maybe more. Sure he was trying to win it, but 3 or 4 slide jobs also were you come to almost a stop. The leader running into the back of you. Like I said he probably was driving a little harder and driving over he head. And yes I have seen sprintcar racing and keep up on it. Just an observation, IMO.
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scottyCbus 3/28/16 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SPRINTCAR (Post 441690)
I think he went off turn 4 at least 3 times in a row, maybe more. Sure he was trying to win it, but 3 or 4 slide jobs also were you come to almost a stop. The leader running into the back of you. Like I said he probably was driving a little harder and driving over he head. And yes I have seen sprintcar racing and keep up on it. Just an observation, IMO.
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Driving over his head to means he wasn't good enough or experienced enough to be up there. Well I got news for you he is good enough and can beat those guys at anytime or any place. Yes he was driving hard and was pushing Ballou and Clauson. He was giving it everything he had to win just like everyone else out there. Slide jobs and running off the track is all part of it . Pushing your car and the track is how you win. The guy that won the race did that the best. It was a great race with lots of action all around guys moving up guys falling back. $7500 to win makes everyone hungry to do what ya gotta do to win in Honoring the name Jesse "The Rocket" Hockett. Believe me Jesse was smiling down on all of us Saturday night. What an awesome way to start off sprint car racing season here in Indiana. :):6::32::8:

Charles Nungester 3/28/16 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPRINTCAR (Post 441676)
Chucky, turn 4 is not the front or backstretch. ;)

I'll stand by the only guy in four national sprint car events so far to be on the podium at every one of them. Isn't driving above his head.

Cummins got a win late last year at the Burg, He'll be in it to win it.
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Will Shunk 3/28/16 9:14 PM

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I just watched the NWO 40 on JackSlash. WOW what a racing program from heats to feature lap 40! I didn't see anyone driving above their head but I saw many driving like they stole it. If this is a preview of what we non wing fans have in store for 2016, it will be an incredibly competitive season from USAC, Indiana's bullrings, BOSS, and WRP. Can't wait until next weekend!

SPRINTCAR 3/29/16 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 441728)
I'll stand by the only guy in four national sprint car events so far to be on the podium at every one of them. Isn't driving above his head.

Cummins got a win late last year at the Burg, He'll be in it to win it.
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Just talking about Saturday nite Chucky. Not last year or three weeks ago. If you read my post I said he will be right there every week. Some of you guys read past what is said and only reply to what you don't like.

Charles Nungester 3/29/16 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SPRINTCAR (Post 441778)
Just talking about Saturday nite Chucky. Not last year or three weeks ago. If you read my post I said he will be right there every week. Some of you guys read past what is said and only reply to what you don't like.

I read exactly what you said, Gave my replies and wasn't intending to insult your view. Just my perspective of it. OK? Kyles Fun to watch, Tries things different and is always pushing the envelope. When sprint car racing is no longer about that. I won't be a fan anymore.

Over your head to me, Means taking someone else out by a stupid move or yourself.:9:


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