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Vukie 9/10/13 3:02 PM

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Copper World 2002.
After the new car came on board, car counts went down. They never recovered.

USAC WELD RACING SILVER CROWN SERIES RACE RESULTS: March 21-23, 2002 -
Phoenix, Arizona - Phoenix International Raceway - Copper World Indy 200"

QUALIFICATIONS: (Held March 22) 1. Dave Steele, 19, Gratton-25.963; 2. J.J. Yeley, 9, East/Stewart-25.976; 3. Tracy Hines, 37, Indiana Underground-26.186; 4. Jay Drake, 11, Stewart/Snider-26.211; 5. Brian Tyler, 21, Team Six-R-26.230; 6. Paul White, 10, Cook-26.285; 7. P.J. Jones, 111, Snider-26.320; 8. Dave Darland, 92, Hoerner-26.328; 9. David Gough, 82, Riverside-26.336; 10. Bobby East, 3, Vance-26.350; 11. Ron Gregory, 48, Irvin-26.351; 12. John Starks, 98, Western Racing-26.372; 13. Ed Carpenter, 39, RFMS-26.432; 14. Brad Noffsinger, 14, Daugherty/Noffsinger-26.462; 15. Bud Kaeding, 2, Vance-26.511; 16. A.J. Fike, 67, Zarounian-26.586; 17. Donny Schatz, 115, RE-26.591; 18. Michael Lewis, 85, Team Six-R-26.592; 19. Jason McCord, 4, Contos-26.609; 20. Chet Fillip, 77, Advanced Racing-26.627; 21. Bentley Warren, 29, S & S-26.665; 22. Danny Ebberts, 44, Ebberts/Schlachter-26.687; 23. Jimmy Kite, 5, Westcon-26.707; 24. Russ Gamester, 51, Gamester-26.735; 25. Tyler Walker, 35, RE/Curb/Agajanian-26.740; 26. Matt Westfall, 25, BWB-26.758; 27. Eric Butze, 09, Butze-26.765; 28. Tyce Carlson, 52, BWB-26.839; 29. Rich Tobias, Jr., 17, RW-26.854; 30. Brad Armstrong, 110, Apple-26.862; 31. Dane Carter, 7, Carter-26.886; 32. Levi Jones, 18, ITI-27.123; 33. John Heydenreich, 90, Bank-27.170; 34. Aaron Pierce, 26, Pierce-27.269; 35. Jason Fuller, 49, Smith-27.269; 36. Erin Crocker, 16, Woodring-27.333; 37. Jonathan Vennard, 99, Mucci/Matczak-27.488; 38. Teddy Beach, 15, Beach-27.539; 39. Nick Lundgreen, 0, Lundgreen-27.819; 40. Tony Elliott, 20, Nolen-27.833; 41. Murray Erickson, 71, Guardian-27.854; 42. Dan Drinan, 07, JR-27.858; 43. Mike Ford, 57, Dolner-28.604; 44. Roger Rager, 03, THT-28.950; 45. Dan Drinan, 08, JR-NT; 46. Ed Carpenter, 69, Dynamics-NT; 47. David Bridges, 40, MB-NT; 48. Tony Hunt, 28, Nierson/Nadeau-NT; 49. Lance Kobusch, 23, Logan-NT; 50. Brian Paulus, 22, P & P-NT; 51. Jason Engel, 27, Wallace-NT; 52. Ryan Scott, 72, B & S-NT; 53. #371, Indiana Underground-NT. (NOTE: Damion Gardner also in car #07).

CONSOLATION RACE: (15 laps-Held March 22) 1. Walker, 2. Butze, 3. Carter, 4. Pierce,5. Westfall, 6. Tobias, 7. Heydenreich, 8. Carlson, 9. Rager, 10. Erickson, 11. Crocker, 12. L.Jones, 13. Beach, 14. Fuller, 15. Vennard, 16. Lundgreen, 17. Armstrong, 18. Ford. NT


By Dick Jordan: Phoenix, Ariz. - Dave Steele of Tampa, Fla. successfully defended his "Copper World Classic" championship Sunday at Phoenix (Ariz.) International Raceway, winning the 100-mile USAC Weld Racing Silver Crown Championship race.

Steele led 85 of the 100 laps in his Northside Propane Gaerte/Beast to beat Tracy Hines and Dave Darland to the checkered flag in a race slowed by four caution periods.

Steele won the pole on Saturday at 138.658 mph and emerged as the series point leader going into a May 10 race at Indianapolis Raceway Park.

"We had a great car," said Steele in victory lane. "I had to run hard and I could see Tracy's nose at times, so I knew they were right there. The car started to get a bit loose near the end so I drove defensively and guarded the bottom of the track. It worked."

Rounding out the "top-10" at the finish were Yeley (4th), Chet Fillip, Jay Drake, Bentley Warren, Paul White, Brian Tyler and Michael Lewis.

Tyler Walker won Saturday's 15-mile consolation race and Fillip earned the race's University of Northwestern Ohio "Hard Charger Award" for advancing 15 positions.

1. (1) Dave Steele, Tampa, Fla., 100, $25,025, No time or speed.
2. (3) Tracy Hines, New Castle, Ind., 100, $11,602.
3. (8) Dave Darland, Lincoln, Ind., 100, $7,365.
4. (2) J.J. Yeley, Phoenix, Ariz., 100, $7,340.
5. (20) Chet Fillip, Avon, Ind., 100, $4,194.
6. (4) Jay Drake, Val Verde, Calif., 100, $4,510.
7. (21) Bentley Warren, Kennebunkport, Maine, 100, $3,094.
8. (6) Paul White, Temple, Texas, 100, $3,736.
9. (5) Brian Tyler, Parma, Mich., 100, $2,776.
10. (18) Michael Lewis, Noblesville, Ind., 100, $2,802.
11. (24) Russ Gamester, Peru, Ind., 100, $1,950.
12. (11) Ron Gregory, Noblesville, Ind., 100, $2,509.
13. (22) Danny Ebberts, Canyon Lake, Calif., 100, $1,750.
14. (23) Jimmy Kite, Stockbridge, Ga., 100, $1,700. 15. (16) A.J. Fike, Galesburg, Ill., 99, $1,649.
16. (25) Tyler Walker, Los Angeles, Calif., 99, $1,674.
17. (14) Brad Noffsinger, Concord, N.C., 99, $1,914.
18. (17) Donny Schatz, Minot, N.D., 98, $1,498
19. (13) Ed Carpenter, Indianapolis, Ind., 93, Flat Tire, $2,717.
20. (29) Matt Westfall, Pleasant Hill, Ohio, 93, $1,618.
21. (19) Jason McCord, Anderson, Ind., 85, Electrical, $1,554.
22. (7) P.J. Jones, Cornelius, N.C., 81, Engine, $1,535.
23. (31) Tyce Carlson, Indianapolis, Ind., 64, Flat Tire, $114.
24. (27) Dane Carter, Brownsburg, Ind., 57, Power Steering, $1,382.
25. (28) Aaron Pierce, Muncie, Ind., 42, Valve Spring, $1,317.
26. (15) Bud Kaeding, Campbell, Calif., 24, Accident, $1,224.
27. (30) Rich Tobias, Jr., Annville, Pa., 15, Accident, $1,290.
28. (26) Eric Butze, Memphis, Tenn., 14, Accident, $1,289.
29. (9) David Gough, Machesney Park, Ill., 14, Clutch, $1,320.
30. (12) John Starks, Edgewood, Wash., 6, Fuel Leak, $1,306.
31. (10) Bobby East, Indianapolis, Ind., 3, Accident, $1,232.

Average Speed: None-Yellow Flags
Time of Race: None-Yellow Flags.
Caution Flags: 4 for 33 laps.
Lead Changes: 4 among 2 drivers.
Lap Leaders: Yeley 1-2, Steele 3-20, Yeley 21-33, Steele 34-100.

Fastest Qualifier: Dave Steele - 25.963 seconds - 138.658 mph.

Consolation Race Winner: (15 laps) .Tyler Walker

Vukie 9/10/13 3:06 PM

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I remember Yeley winning this bonus back in 2003.
http://www.whowon.com/Results.asp?Tr...StoryID=118324

http://www.whowon.com/Results.asp?Tr...&StoryID=88917

sprntr 9/10/13 6:46 PM

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0, Lundgreen
2, Vance
3, Vance
3 fike
03, THT
4, Contos
5, Westcon
5, Baldwin
6 Klatt
7, Carter
07, JR
08, JR
09, Butze
9, East/Stewart
10, Cook
10, Stewart
11, Stewart/Snider
14. McQuinn
14, Daugherty/Noffsinger
15, Beach
16, Woodring
16, Lightfoot
17, RW
18, ITI
18, Conroy
19, Team Six-R
19, Gratton
20, Nolen
21, Team Six-R
22, Stewart
22, P & P
23, Logan
23 Team Six-R
25, BWB
26, Pierce
27, RW
27, Wallace
28, Nierson/Nadeau
29, BK
29, S & S
31 mataka
32 kazman
32, RFMS
33 drinan
35, RE
36, Miller
37, Indiana Underground
38, Shoestring
39, RFMS
40, MB
43, Nix
44, Ebberts/Schlachter
48, Irvin
49, Smith
50 aviator car
51, Gamester
52, BWB
53 fox bros
55, Bateman
56, Foxco
57, Dolner
63 Hampshire
66 Gary Hieber
67, Zarounian
69, Dynamics
69 Hoffman
71, Guardian
72, B & S
77, Urish
77, Advanced Racing
81, Draw
82, Riverside
83, Stroehle
85, Team Six-R
90, Bank
92, Hoerner
97, SC
98, Western Racing
98 santos
99 seals it
99, Mucci/Matczak
110, Apple
111, Snider
115, RE
153, Capie
199, Edwards/RE
371, Indiana Underground

sp6967 9/10/13 7:36 PM

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the way usac has screwed with these cars over the past years, i wouldn't run one.you never know when they(usac) will want change something.

sprntr 9/10/13 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sp6967:
the way usac has screwed with these cars over the past years, i wouldn't run one.you never know when they(usac) will want change something.

I would, at the drop of a hat. And will, if I can ever afford to.

steiny

:32:

ossuks 9/10/13 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by usac99:
MINIMUM SILVER CROWN PURSE INCREASE FOR ELDORA

TRAXXAS USAC Silver Crown participants in the September 21 “4-Crown Nationals” at Eldora Speedway in Rossburg, Ohio will be competing for the largest minimum starting purse in series dirt-track history!

Last place in the 50-lap feature at Eldora will offer $1,000-to-start, up $300 from last year’s minimum payoff. The victory will be worth $8,000.

The “4-Crown Nationals” will pit five drivers in a last-chance battle for the series crown, which will be determined at the conclusion of the 50-lap race. A total of 66 points are available and just 29 separate drivers Bobby East, Jerry Coons Jr., Tracy Hines, Chris Windom and Kody Swanson. Windom and Swanson are seeking their initial TRAXXAS Silver Crown series championships.

“We are pleased to post this minimum purse increase, which reflects the efforts of all involved to augment this series as we move forward,” says series coordinator James Spink. “We hope this is the first step toward similar increases in the future as we continue to develop the series and re-energize the car counts which have been a challenge during the past season.”

The last time the TRAXXAS USAC Silver Crown series offered starting prizes of $1,000 or more was in 2009 at Phoenix International Raceway on the pavement.

Great that Tony ponied the extra money! Now if USAC would wave the $800 license fee since it is the end of the season, and drop the $100 entry fee they might increase the count!

ThrowbackRacingTeam 9/11/13 2:12 PM

I totally agree. They need to waive the licensing fees or the extra money will do no good. And they need to announce that soon. Next year they should pro-rate the license per race.

Kellen Conover 9/11/13 2:32 PM

I encourage any team who is still on the fence to pick up the phone and contact USAC and talk to them. Maybe they will waive the license fee maybe they won't, just contact them and discuss it.

johnnythunderhead 9/11/13 2:53 PM

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if there's a $900.00 in fees just to compete, then point the $$$ at the midgets, the # of s c cars won't change at this point

ThrowbackRacingTeam 9/11/13 3:54 PM

USAC is hurting in all 3 divisions. I think the biggest reason is the total lack of TV coverage. Back in the day, there wasn't a million channels and USAC had the best short track TV deal in the country. A lot of drivers/owners wanted to be in USAC because of that. They need a Forrest Lucas type to put them back on the air!

miledirt 9/11/13 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
USAC is hurting in all 3 divisions. I think the biggest reason is the total lack of TV coverage. Back in the day, there wasn't a million channels and USAC had the best short track TV deal in the country. A lot of drivers/owners wanted to be in USAC because of that. They need a Forrest Lucas type to put them back on the air!

Yep, sure would like to see them get on MAV

ronmil 9/11/13 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by miledirt:
Yep, sure would like to see them get on MAV

Wish Velocity, or another cable channel would carry some short track racing. MAV is not available on cable.

OTSNWR 9/11/13 4:46 PM

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My name is Ken Bayliss and I'm the owner of the Ontario Topless Sprints. I'm also so far the only Canadian dealer/distributor for TJ Racing Oils from IN. It's my dream to someday have my own Champ Car team so I strongly desire to see this sport survive. If the Silver Crown team owners would like to get together for an owner's meeting in one of the conference rooms at the PRI show in Dec., TJ Racing Oils owner will order a room booked to hold a meeting in at the show. This is free. I'm sure Skype and conference calling abilities can be had for owners unable to make the show the day the meeting is on. If there's enough interest by owners getting together to brainstorm ideas to present to USAC for positive future changes down the road please let me know. Conference/meeting rooms are booked through PRI management on a first come first served basis so the sooner a room could be booked the better. The show is 3 months from now which should give everyone enough time to consider some positive ideas to build the meetings itinerary on. At the end of the meeting it's possible a list of requests and demands be given to USAC from the owners collectively:31: for the purpose of the improvement of the sport for all concerned. If you'd like to contact me about this possibility please email me at Ken@ontariotoplesssprints.com, PM me or please feel free to call me at 289-282-1007. I'm not an owner yet but have started to compile parts for my engine. I'm not interested in stepping on toes, displacing anyone or upsetting anyone, I merely want to see the sport saved and grow. Thank you, I'm at your service SC.

Vukie 9/11/13 4:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
USAC is hurting in all 3 divisions. I think the biggest reason is the total lack of TV coverage. Back in the day, there wasn't a million channels and USAC had the best short track TV deal in the country. A lot of drivers/owners wanted to be in USAC because of that. They need a Forrest Lucas type to put them back on the air!

How many World of Outlaw sprint car races are on TV these days? ASCS? IRA? All Stars? Short track dirt racing any division?

Must be USAC's fault.

Maybe short track dirt racing doesn't get the ratings or the sponsorship to be on TV these days. The days of the ESPN TV Thunder shows are over, now is now. If they had ratings they would be on TV. :deadhorse:

Mud Packer 9/11/13 4:57 PM

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Could post #93 be the start of an overhaul for the Silver Crown series? I guess only time will tell but for the owners of the cars that are parked, this is at least an attempt to start the discussion needed to put cars back on the track. If they decide not to, I don't know what else they could be waiting for.

ThrowbackRacingTeam 9/11/13 5:22 PM

Well...between powerI midgets ascs sprints and local Indiana sprints they've been on TV on a weekly basis this year. But no USAC. Explain that. USAC hired this marketing expert to run things yet weekly races from putnamville are on national TV but not a single USAC race? It's not the only reason for the decline. Escalating costs play a big role also. I also know for a fact that many fans prefer the classic body styles of the past and really liked it back in the 90's when a bunch of teams ran them. It was those god aweful pavement cars that started all this so that proves looks do matter. I've been on both sides of the fence and believe me most owners could care less what fans think. As far as getting owners back...I'm all for the idea of USAC contacting them and trying to schmooze them back, but not just the rich ones, the fillers should have just as much say or more. They should discuss any major series rule changes BEFORE imposing them.

ThePurple73 9/11/13 6:14 PM

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The reason silver crown cars would work on TV is they don't spin out every other lap like some shows have in the past.

Think back to when you did see USAC sprints and some Silver Crown cars on TV(ESPN), what made it happen?

miledirt 9/11/13 6:22 PM

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MAV is on DirectTV and I think Charter, not on Uverse though

mr nobody 9/11/13 6:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
The reason silver crown cars would work on TV is they don't spin out every other lap like some shows have in the past.

Think back to when you did see USAC sprints and some Silver Crown cars on TV(ESPN), what made it happen?

There weren't 250+ channels out there to divert people's ever changing 2 second attention span. ESPN (then ESPN2) was looking for programming to fill it's lineup. Now they have more then they can choose from so now ESPN (and all ESPN channels) want to be paid for broadcasting programs of any kind. If the Crown cars are to be on TV, then a major sponsor MUST step up and pay for that TV time. Also, when these races were on TV back in the 90's there were a few races in California that were on dirt (Ventura Speedway) and then the rest were mostly on pavement at Salem, Winchester and IRP. Heck, even the Speedrome was on there as well. I do remember a few shows from Eldora and Terre Haute as well. Without the pavement being part of midgets and sprints, TV might be impossible.

Vukie 9/11/13 6:44 PM

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I don't have MAV TV on my comcast.

Vukie 9/11/13 6:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
I've been on both sides of the fence and believe me most owners could care less what fans think.

Another good reason why this fan stays home. :3:

Still waiting to watch the 2013 Knoxville Nationals on TV.

http://singularityhub.com/2013/01/08...ains-momentum/

jim goerge 9/11/13 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam:
Well...between powerI midgets ascs sprints and local Indiana sprints they've been on TV on a weekly basis this year. But no USAC. Explain that. USAC hired this marketing expert to run things yet weekly races from putnamville are on national TV but not a single USAC race? It's not the only reason for the decline. Escalating costs play a big role also. I also know for a fact that many fans prefer the classic body styles of the past and really liked it back in the 90's when a bunch of teams ran them. It was those god aweful pavement cars that started all this so that proves looks do matter. I've been on both sides of the fence and believe me most owners could care less what fans think. As far as getting owners back...I'm all for the idea of USAC contacting them and trying to schmooze them back, but not just the rich ones, the fillers should have just as much say or more. They should discuss any major series rule changes BEFORE imposing them.

Ask Sean Buckley (Jackslash) Why he don;t do USAC races anymore

Roy Bleckert 9/11/13 8:56 PM

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If they put The Dirt Miles back on the IndyCar sked , U have the Big Cars on National (NBCSports/ABC) TV for @ least 3 races Spgfld, DuQuion , Indy Fairgrds

Jonr 9/11/13 9:28 PM

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Once again, there is no conspiracy on why there is not dirt track racing on TV. It is not USAC's fault, or the WOO's fault, or ESPN's fault. It is a case of money. If there was money to be made putting dirt track racking on TV, everyone would be doing it. TV execs are just like race promoters. They want to have a product that is going to be profitable.

The one exception to the rule is MAVtv which for all intent and purposes in just a glorified infomercial for Lucas Oil Products.

Finally, we all have illusions of grandeur of watching Thursday Night Thunder. It was some great TV for us race fans. The other thing that it had was excitement. Watching a tape delay of a race that happened a month ago has very little excitement. I find most of the tape delay races hard to watch because there is no excitement. If it is hard for a die hard fan to get excited about a race, how do we expect it to hook in a casual fan.

mr nobody 9/12/13 6:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonr:
Once again, there is no conspiracy on why there is not dirt track racing on TV. It is not USAC's fault, or the WOO's fault, or ESPN's fault. It is a case of money. If there was money to be made putting dirt track racking on TV, everyone would be doing it. TV execs are just like race promoters. They want to have a product that is going to be profitable.

The one exception to the rule is MAVtv which for all intent and purposes in just a glorified infomercial for Lucas Oil Products.

Finally, we all have illusions of grandeur of watching Thursday Night Thunder. It was some great TV for us race fans. The other thing that it had was excitement. Watching a tape delay of a race that happened a month ago has very little excitement. I find most of the tape delay races hard to watch because there is no excitement. If it is hard for a die hard fan to get excited about a race, how do we expect it to hook in a casual fan.

Wow, just wow. :19:

Sprintcarfanatic 9/12/13 6:38 AM

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Unless they can get Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashian & the like to drive, be trophy queens, greeters at the gate we are screwed.

RACEMS41 9/12/13 8:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sprntr:
0, Lundgreen
2, Vance
3, Vance
3 fike
03, THT
4, Contos
5, Westcon
5, Baldwin
6 Klatt
7, Carter
07, JR
08, JR
09, Butze
9, East/Stewart
10, Cook
10, Stewart
11, Stewart/Snider
14. McQuinn
14, Daugherty/Noffsinger
15, Beach
16, Woodring
16, Lightfoot
17, RW
18, ITI
18, Conroy
19, Team Six-R
19, Gratton
20, Nolen
21, Team Six-R
22, Stewart
22, P & P
23, Logan
23 Team Six-R
25, BWB
26, Pierce
27, RW
27, Wallace
28, Nierson/Nadeau
29, BK
29, S & S
31 mataka
32 kazman
32, RFMS
33 drinan
35, RE
36, Miller
37, Indiana Underground
38, Shoestring
39, RFMS
40, MB
43, Nix
44, Ebberts/Schlachter
48, Irvin
49, Smith
50 aviator car
51, Gamester
52, BWB
53 fox bros
55, Bateman
56, Foxco
57, Dolner
63 Hampshire
66 Gary Hieber
67, Zarounian
69, Dynamics
69 Hoffman
71, Guardian
72, B & S
77, Urish
77, Advanced Racing
81, Draw
82, Riverside
83, Stroehle
85, Team Six-R
90, Bank
92, Hoerner
97, SC
98, Western Racing
98 santos
99 seals it
99, Mucci/Matczak
110, Apple
111, Snider
115, RE
153, Capie
199, Edwards/RE
371, Indiana Underground

Add Paternoster #41 and #47

Honest-Sam 9/12/13 11:43 PM

And Mike Bowman #2 and #11.

Honest-Sam 9/12/13 11:51 PM

Whenever I think of TV coverage, at 'our' level, I am reminded of the old saying "That ship has sailed". Meaning, it's gone, and it ain't comin' back.

sprint83 9/13/13 9:00 AM

Wayne chinn ran a 71, may have been 171? Around 02-03

Roy Bleckert 9/13/13 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprintcarfanatic:
Unless they can get Miley Cyrus, Kim Kardashian & the like to drive, be trophy queens, greeters at the gate we are screwed.

This would definitely grab some attention ! :5:

johnnythunderhead 9/13/13 4:17 PM

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anybody list the 3 in 1/ or 4 in 1 (which ever it was?) from out east?

ossuks 9/14/13 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ossuks:
Great that Tony ponied the extra money! Now if USAC would wave the $800 license fee since it is the end of the season, and drop the $100 entry fee they might increase the count!

Any word yet about USAC dropping these fees for Eldora?

Midget82 9/14/13 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pwfan:
What about the Seals-it # 99 that Paul White drove

What about the Seals-It #99 that Jonathan Vennard drove? :9:

trickyricky 9/15/13 5:19 AM

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One possible first step to bring the Silver Crown Division back to life is for USAC to rehire Greg Staab to run the Silver Crown Division. When he was involved with the Sprint Division it flourished. He got us the East Coast swing, owners were happy because Greg was an owner/driver and he knew what they wanted. Nobody would work harder and with more passion to step in an improve/fix the problems that the Silver Crown Division currently suffers from. USAC needs to get over themselves and their ******** and hire back Greg Staab. But, this is only my opinion.


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