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SprintManDave 9/5/09 2:26 PM

Re: Should there be blankets allowed to be put down before the nights events
 

Originally Posted by FishBurger:
:18:

Well, you're the boss Dave. But, I gotta tell ya, being retired on a fixed income, this will likely cut down on my cheeseburger and 50/50 ticket purchases. :(

And now, I must be off. Gotta go over and tape down blankets on the top two rows of the grandstand. ;):3:;)

Marv, I can understand you cutting out the cheeseburgers, but not Cherie.also is it true that you also have a blanket taped down at Bob Evans?

Dirtfan 9/5/09 2:33 PM

Re: Should there be blankets allowed to be put down before the nights events
 

Originally Posted by dave rudisell:
no problem, all the hog you can eat for that price. Is there really any bad seats at lawrenceburg? I can say all seats are a awesome view. I only have a problem with people saving a huge area and nobody even sits there. There is one guy that does this and we have talked about it. With over 6,000 seats there is not a problem here.
Take care, dave

:6::6:

captrat 9/5/09 3:34 PM

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In the past 2 years I have sailed 1000 miles, flown 2500 miles and driven another 2500 miles to attend ISW. 1. no blankets until gates open, day of the race 2. reserve seats top 3 rows (perhaps provide season tickets at a discounted price for regular attendees) 3. no stadium seat chairs: seat cushions or blankets only 4. no coolers, I like an adult beverage as well as anyone, but there are very few places of entertainment who provide food and beverage for purchase that allow you to bring your own. 5. remove any blankets/chairs/tape left overnight. 6. provide "ushers" to actively oversee seating practices of "fans" who take up double and triple their needed space. I understand the desire of those who attend on a weekly basis to have "dibs", but every PAYING customer deserves an equal shot at seating. We often talk about expanding the appeal of our sport to new fans, if you took a first timer to Gas City for example, got there early but told them "no, we cannot sit in those seats, even though they remain unoccupied for the whole evening". Would they come back? Just my HO.

treecitytornado 9/5/09 6:15 PM

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I was a fan long before I ever got behind the wheel and I fully understand the importance of getting the seat you want. Me and my family used to go to Eldora a week before the Kings Royal to reserve our chair spots. That was before Earl decided to reserve them. I think it is crazy to have to do that even for a big race. You should be allowed to reserve your spot in the stands or the hillside, the day of the race only. As far as the people who get there late and are pissed that all the good seats are gone, I'm sorry that is just the way it is!!

Modocer 57 9/5/09 9:24 PM

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I think Gas City policy sucks, get to the track and take your chance at a good seat like all other working Joe's. Aero do you think you are someone special who's job is so inportmant that sometimes you may be late because of a stock holders board meeting, get a life.

Flatrightrear 9/6/09 12:17 AM

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I got into the pits at Gas City and spent the evening there during ISW. It was great talking to the drivers and owners during down time and I didn't have to deal with the ridiculous grandstands. The stands must have been built by the same outfit that did that tower over in some place called Pisa. Tom

LittleRube 9/6/09 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Modocer 57:
I think Gas City policy sucks, get to the track and take your chance at a good seat like all other working Joe's. Aero do you think you are someone special who's job is so inportmant that sometimes you may be late because of a stock holders board meeting, get a life.

He is there every week other than when the sprints aren't running. Which is what 3 times a year. Spends more than you do there probably?!!
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Hubie 9/6/09 9:15 AM

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To the guy who wants to ban coolers, get a grip.

I quit going to Gas City for Sprint Weeks due to the seat saving. Had an interesting time at Bloomington in 2009 (this year) over the very same practice. Both of these tracks offer fine racing. The Sprint Week shows are excellent. The guy putting down 18 chairs in front of me, then having 12 people show up was a bit over the top.

Stop the practice or figure out a way to make it work. The reserved seating idea sounds decent.

crp26 9/6/09 10:54 AM

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When we go to tracks other then our home tracks we sit where we can and accept that.Gas City thanks for letting fans who support all your weekly shows not just the big races have the seats they are in every week.Yes the bleachers leave a lot to be desired but you will not find a more fan friendly track then GC.
Chuck

bballr4567 9/6/09 12:58 PM

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I dont see why other tracks cant do reserve seating rather than the blanket policy. I think its pure crap that if you get there at the first of the year you get the best seats year around regardless of when you show up on race night. Just shouldnt work like that.

I understand that some people at these tracks are there all the time but does that make them more valueable than the people that travel and really dont have a home track? They get excited to see a new track, show up 4-5 hours early and still sit 2 rows up from the fence.

captrat 9/6/09 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hubie:
To the guy who wants to ban coolers, get a grip.

I quit going to Gas City for Sprint Weeks due to the seat saving. Had an interesting time at Bloomington in 2009 (this year) over the very same practice. Both of these tracks offer fine racing. The Sprint Week shows are excellent. The guy putting down 18 chairs in front of me, then having 12 people show up was a bit over the top.

Stop the practice or figure out a way to make it work. The reserved seating idea sounds decent.

When was the last time you went to any professional sporting event, restaurant, movie, etc. where you were allowed to take in your own food and drink? If in fact we want more quality in the facilities at which PROFESSIONAL short track racing is held we need to fully patronize them (this ain't no end of the year company picnic) and all fans must have the same opportunity for seating.

AERO410SCJA 9/7/09 4:18 PM

Re: Should there be blankets allowed to be put down before the nights events
 

Originally Posted by Modocer 57:
I think Gas City policy sucks, get to the track and take your chance at a good seat like all other working Joe's. Aero do you think you are someone special who's job is so inportmant that sometimes you may be late because of a stock holders board meeting, get a life.

We decided to sell off a couple thousand shares so you might want to get in on the ground floor.

Maybe you ought to get a life instead of posting on a message board at 9:30 on a Saturday night instead of supporting your local dirt track:16


PS Had to sit on the second row from the top on Sunday at Kokomo and COULD STILL SEE:18:

BrentTFunk 9/7/09 4:30 PM

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I got to Gas City a little late Friday. The four of us sat in row 6 and saw everything great.

Danny Burton 9/7/09 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA:
PS Had to sit on the second row from the top on Sunday at Kokomo and COULD STILL SEE:18:

You're lucky I didn't take my cap off. You'd have been blinded then, son.

racefan20 9/8/09 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Burton:
You're lucky I didn't take my cap off. You'd have been blinded then, son.

I'm glad you said that Danny....so I didnt have to:3:

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I got an idea, why dont they rebuild the bleachers with just 1 row all the way around the track, that way everyone gets the top row. Oh, but then someone would be pissed off that they got turn 2 instead of the start/finish line. :16:15::2:

Jody Shannon 9/8/09 4:28 AM

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I go to the races early if I want a good seat, have been practicing this for years. Also have a buddy system of saving seats for folks when they come to my area, and they will return the favor when I go to theirs. Same group of 40 or so of us sit together for most of the major events in the region and all is right in the world.

If anyone ever needs a seat in the Cincy area, and can handle talking about Late Models all night..give me a buzz.

cecil98 9/8/09 7:14 AM

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Day of the race, only!!! Also, selling reserved seats will not eliminate the practice of blanketing seats. All it will do is force the problem down a couple rows to leave the "general admissioners" to scramble for the best of the remaining seats.

I feel this is also a problem with back stretch parking at Lawrenceburg Speedway. Sometimes we'll go down early to park our vehicle against the fence and have someone pick us up. While doing this, you'll often see a vehicle against the fence and then 60 ft. of caution tape attached to it holding spots for late arrivals. That's crap. Dave should make a rule that back straight parking spots can only be reserved with an actual vehicle. Rule 2: if you put up a canopy, you have to park your vehicle behind it, not next to it.

TQ29m 9/8/09 8:35 AM

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With as much attention this has brought to the surface, I'm sure Washington is looking to appoint a Czar in charge of regulating it! Bob

mowerman 9/8/09 9:18 AM

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Promoters Choice. If they feel they are losing fans im sure they would change it.

Dave Rudisell 9/8/09 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mowerman:
Promoters Choice. If they feel they are losing fans im sure they would change it.

Marking off a seat is as much as a tradition as racing itself. When we run out of seats at the Burg, Then we will do something then. The WOO show we did'nt allow marking off of seats until the gates opened up, because i was hoping it would be an issue, and it was'nt. I can honestly say that in my three years of working at the track, i have not seen it once where there was'nt a good seat left. We have plenty of seating available all the time.
Let the tradition carry on!!! See you all at the races, i am hoping there won't be any seats left when you get there.:2:
Dave

mowerman 9/8/09 11:32 AM

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That would be a good thing. i,d have to buy a pit pass.

SprintManDave 9/8/09 3:25 PM

Re: Should there be blankets allowed to be put down before the nights events
 

Originally Posted by mowerman:
That would be a good thing. i,d have to buy a pit pass.

But they don't allow Bud in the pits do they Bob.

mowerman 9/8/09 3:39 PM

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The road goes both ways.

smith19 9/8/09 8:03 PM

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i barrowed the remote control device from the fella in sect. "A". i will be pushing the button thursday evening. as u can see i got no where with him saturday about this device. the only reason i got it now is because i let him talk to cheri, the 50/50 girl.:2:. now my seat will be saved.

turn4 9/9/09 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
Marking off a seat is as much as a tradition as racing itself.

That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard!
Phil Thrasher

Dave Rudisell 9/9/09 7:24 AM

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Originally Posted by turn4:
That's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard!
Phil Thrasher

And why is that? All long as i can remember people have been saving seats.
Don't be a hater Phil.

Rpracing1 9/9/09 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
And why is that? All long as i can remember people have been saving seats.
Don't be a hater Phil.

View the poll results..........I would say the people have spoken..........

AERO410SCJA 9/9/09 9:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
View the poll results..........I would say the people have spoken..........

I say every track in Indiana should change there seating policies on the votes of 143 people.

Dirt tracks you can save a seat before the gates open-Gas City,Lawrenceburg,Bloomington,Putnamville,Terre HAUTE,Haubstadt,North Vernon,Paragon,Montpelier,Kamp,Brownstown.

I say the majority of race fans like to put there seats down before the gates open.

PS If I buy a Pit pass at Kokomo I can put my seat down before the Grandstand gate opens.

Rpracing1 9/9/09 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA:
I say every track in Indiana should change there seating policies on the votes of 143 people.

Dirt tracks you can save a seat before the gates open-Gas City,Lawrenceburg,Bloomington,Putnamville,Terre HAUTE,Haubstadt,North Vernon,Paragon,Montpelier,Kamp,Brownstown.

I say the majority of race fans like to put there seats down before the gates open.

PS If I buy a Pit pass at Kokomo I can put my seat down before the Grandstand gate opens.

Don't put words in my mouth. I was just indicating what 75% of persons answering this scientific poll have said.

AERO410SCJA 9/9/09 10:58 AM

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Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, just stating that it was only 143 people.
And listed the tracks that allow you to put down your seats BEFORE THE GATE OPENS.

T&A Racing 9/9/09 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fisher79:
Absolutely not. General admission should be just that.

Totally agree. I think if you look the 2 words up in the dictionary it would be just that.

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Originally Posted by AERO410SCJA:
I say every track in Indiana should change there seating policies on the votes of 143 people.

Dirt tracks you can save a seat before the gates open-Gas City,Lawrenceburg,Bloomington,Putnamville,Terre HAUTE,Haubstadt,North Vernon,Paragon,Montpelier,Kamp,Brownstown.

I say the majority of race fans like to put there seats down before the gates open.

PS If I buy a Pit pass at Kokomo I can put my seat down before the Grandstand gate opens.

I don't mind if they let you put you blankets down before the gates open. That day. Not days before or all year!
If they want to sell premium seats then do it. If they want to reserve seats for company employees that sponsor the track for the year (Attica), then fine.

Sure you can spend more money at Kokomo and put your blanky down, but who cares. I think Kokomo does it right. Same with Limaland. But again, the tracks that let you put your blankys down before the gates open but the day of the show is fine too.

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Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan:
Blankets holding seats instead of the a$$es that will be using them later?
Well, that sucks for a guy who drives a couple hundred miles one-way to Kokomo and finds all of the seats up high already "blanketed". Some folks who live a few blocks away drive out to the track as soon as the first gate opens, put down a multitude of blankets, and go home for the evening meal. They return just in time for the first heat, and those of us who have been out there for an hour have worse seats than Mr. Blanket.

Sorry Steve, I like you but I don't see the point. I would imagine if you had a track in your back yard you would do the same.

I am one of those people at Kokomo that kinda does that. But every other track in Indiana, guess what? Don't work out that way.

I do kind of understand what you are saying. I have went to Gas City the early morning or the evening before a big show to get some seats only to find a lot of them are gone. Now, I only live 40 minutes from the track but since they pretty much let you do this, I figured what the heck. I will give it a try. To no avail.

In addition, I put down 2 or 3 blankets depending on what friends and family is expected to be there as well as friends of mine that do live out of town. If some of them don't show up, I look for and offer any space to others I know. I think I have done that for you once or twice.

Kim Rudisell 9/9/09 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Bozo, I can cover this. ONLY if fried groundhog is included in my twice a year trips to the Burg:)

I hope you guys don't plan on eating "Harry"....who lives behind the main concession under a white trailer. Harry likes left over bread from all those hot dogs and burgers thrown down from the section "A" crowd.

On the blanket deal...I only have two requests...
~When I lock all the side gates at 3:00pm, don't yell at me because you have to walk all the way around to the front gate to get back to your car....(don't try to hide in the bathrooms either b/c at 4:30 I send in the Daves' to fume people out! )
~Park in the normal parking lot and walk in with your blankets....had a few close ones under the stands and around the curves....How would you feel if I parked a running quad right in front of your desk when you are trying to work?

That's all, otherwise, have at it!:2:

P.S. Boys, don't eat the groundhogs!....i thought Harry was my cute fat groundhog...turns out after two years Dave comes home and tells me that Harry is a girl, only fat cuz she was preggers!!! If you click your cheeks at her and yell her name, she'll come out to see what you have!

Charles Nungester 9/9/09 10:00 PM

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Harriett?

Kim Rudisell 9/9/09 10:03 PM

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Lol...yes, called her that for about a week, doesn't have the same ring as "Harry the Groundhog".....

Danny Burton 9/9/09 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim Rudisell:
Harry likes left over bread from all those hot dogs and burgers thrown down from the section "A" crowd.

Not from me. I have nothing left over.

I'd guess that promoters don't mind early bird blankeys too much as long as butts are covering them come race time.

11Chaudion 9/10/09 11:25 AM

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I think it sucks! We went to one of the indiana sprint week races this year. We got there early, and could not find seats in the grandstands for all of us(3) to set toghether. Everybody was out in the parking lot tailgating. Hardly anybody in the stands, but blankets down everywhere. We had to pay extra to get in the pit stands. Nothing like paying extra bucks to set in stands were you get covered in mud and can only see the far side of the track. We had to set on the bottom row. There was even blankets put down there. The only time people was in them was when there driver was on the track.

To me its like standing in line and then leaving. Once you leave the line you dont get it back. Its back to the end of the line for you, bud.:34:

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Originally Posted by bojo20:
How can you say it helps a track financialy ? If your a race fan you don't only go to an event if you have been able to put down a blanket days ahead.If thats the case you can stay home.I know many people who stay away because of all the blankets.I drive in every year from Arizona for Sprint week and other events and have got to tracks early {GAS CITY} and every row had things taped and saved.I left and went back to the motel.I think its very unfair.


Hit the nail on the head there. I think this is the worst track for this. Nothing like driver 2 hours to get there a half hour after the gate opens. And cant find a seat. I have not been back since. I HOPE SOMEBODY FROM GAS CITY IS READING THIS.

Andrew S. Quinn 9/10/09 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Chaudion:

To me its like standing in line and then leaving. Once you leave the line you dont get it back. Its back to the end of the line for you, bud.

With that way of thinking,if I get up to take a leak,someone can just sit where I have been setting.

Joey Woods 9/10/09 2:16 PM

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I save seats. With that being said, save all the seats you wish anytime you wish however, no "saving" the top two rows at anytime.

turn4 9/10/09 2:22 PM

Re: Should there be blankets allowed to be put down before the nights events
 

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
And why is that? All long as i can remember people have been saving seats.
Don't be a hater Phil.

No hate intended Dave. I can accept people saving seats. People aren't saving seats. No people are there. The blankets are saving seats. I have a problem with that. Just my opinion. Next time I'll use the word funniest, not stupid. Sorry
Phil Thrasher

mortboyz 9/10/09 4:57 PM

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I just returned from putting down 7 blankets at Terre Haute......;)


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