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I don't know how all the legal stuff is actually worded but He will own it!

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
I don't know how all the legal stuff is actually worded but He will own it!

So you really dont know guess i'll call and ask

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What part of " He will own it" do you not understand...:17:

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
What part of " He will own it" do you not understand...:17:

Apparently the whole thing Bill!:14::15::17::19::5:

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YOO HOO... JOE SPIKER OWNS LPS!!!! As Mr. Happy stated in an earlier post... OMFG There really is a Santa Claus.[/QUOTE]


So now that I'm rained out for the day I will see if Santa is really good to me and make me a winner at Indiana live casino tonight. Thank you Mr. Spiker

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Originally Posted by Bill Gardner:
What part of " He will own it" do you not understand...:17:

It's a 5 year Lease, He does not own it. Unless he writes a much bigger check, it will remain a lease.
I did get off my Azz and call to get the answers.

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It's being called a lease/purchase agreement per Hoseheads press release. Spiker says he has spent $70,000 of his own money on VCS, but it will always be just a rental. Next year during sprintweek I would love to see Terre Haute on Thurs. night, Bloomington on Fri. night, Putnamville on Sat. night , and Haubstadt on Sun. night, just like the old days.

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I called Joe Spiker and spoke to his wife and called Dave Allison and spoke to him directly (thanks Peggy for the phone number) its sounds like racer 1020 is spot on. When I spoke to Allison he was actually eating lunch with Joe Spiker. He told me there will be a post some time today regarding this issue on the www.lincolnparkspeedway.com [B]Official website[B]But I know for a fact that Bill Gardner is wrong, Joe does not own the track. The still track owner and new promoter both confirmed that issue. You know it really is strange how when Allison took over the all you guys were saying what a great thing it was to see Hopton out and Allison in. How easily we forget three am finishes nearly every week, port a pots instead of restrooms, skids stacked from the light poles to the corners, so the infield workers could get close to your car if you spun out, and oh by the way if you did spin out in the bottom of one and two you had to have a wrecker pull you out every time because the mud was two feet deep, thats the problem with this website and racers who gossip on it. I was raised if you didn't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut. And if you don't know the facts don't speculate because its just gossip. And they say women are bad!!

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There is a letter on LPS website from Dave Allison. This explains what is REALLY going on.

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Originally Posted by Great Scott:
There is a letter on LPS website from Dave Allison. This explains what is REALLY going on.

D.A. Joes got the lease but by it from me anyway, What a dirt bag

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Originally Posted by starlene:
I called Joe Spiker and spoke to his wife and called Dave Allison and spoke to him directly (thanks Peggy for the phone number) its sounds like racer 1020 is spot on. When I spoke to Allison he was actually eating lunch with Joe Spiker. He told me there will be a post some time today regarding this issue on the www.lincolnparkspeedway.com [B]Official website[B]But I know for a fact that Bill Gardner is wrong, Joe does not own the track. The still track owner and new promoter both confirmed that issue. You know it really is strange how when Allison took over the all you guys were saying what a great thing it was to see Hopton out and Allison in. How easily we forget three am finishes nearly every week, port a pots instead of restrooms, skids stacked from the light poles to the corners, so the infield workers could get close to your car if you spun out, and oh by the way if you did spin out in the bottom of one and two you had to have a wrecker pull you out every time because the mud was two feet deep, thats the problem with this website and racers who gossip on it. I was raised if you didn't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut. And if you don't know the facts don't speculate because its just gossip. And they say women are bad!!

Real nice post for a New poster why don't you take your own advice about (don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut) real nice to come on here and call the man who runs the board a liar and if you don't like this site get the hell off it. :24:

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Originally Posted by starlene:
i called joe spiker and spoke to his wife and called dave allison and spoke to him directly (thanks peggy for the phone number) its sounds like racer 1020 is spot on. When i spoke to allison he was actually eating lunch with joe spiker. He told me there will be a post some time today regarding this issue on the www.lincolnparkspeedway.com [b]official website[b]but i know for a fact that bill gardner is wrong, joe does not own the track. The still track owner and new promoter both confirmed that issue. You know it really is strange how when allison took over the all you guys were saying what a great thing it was to see hopton out and allison in. How easily we forget three am finishes nearly every week, port a pots instead of restrooms, skids stacked from the light poles to the corners, so the infield workers could get close to your car if you spun out, and oh by the way if you did spin out in the bottom of one and two you had to have a wrecker pull you out every time because the mud was two feet deep, thats the problem with this website and racers who gossip on it. I was raised if you didn't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut. And if you don't know the facts don't speculate because its just gossip. And they say women are bad!!

sign ur name .:11;..............who gave you the number peggy who

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Putnamville has been a part of the Indiana racing scene for a lot of years. We can all agree that it has been neglected for a while. It should be good news that someone could be potentially breathing new life (and cutting down the weeds) at the old track. Lets wait and see what the promotor has to say before he is thrown under the bus.

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Call me what you want. I can handle it. I've got a little thicker skin than most.

I know what I was told and I still believe it. Out of respect for JOE SPIKER... no additional comments about this matter will be made by me.

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I agree

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Originally Posted by agar:
Real nice post for a New poster why don't you take your own advice about (don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut) real nice to come on here and call the man who runs the board a liar and if you don't like this site get the hell off it. :24:

Mr. Bennett i'm not bad mouthing anyone if you read my post carefully you would know the difference between calling someone a liar or just telling someone they were wrong. Just relaying the facts that were easily attainable with 15 minutes of effort not rumor or gossip.

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I have to post on this topic. I am always a huge supporter of LPS and will always be. I know Joe is a great guy and that Lincoln Park is a great open wheel track. I want to say when two great things come together only good things come out of it no matter if he owns or leases. Best of Luck at LPS and if you have a spot add MTQRL to the schedule.

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Originally Posted by starlene:
Mr. Bennett i'm not bad mouthing anyone if you read my post carefully you would know the difference between calling someone a liar or just telling someone they were wrong. Just relaying the facts that were easily attainable with 15 minutes of effort not rumor or gossip.

Your first 4 post as a member of this board you are bad mouthing 2 people who have been here from the start (D.O. & Bill) who have done more for the sport of Openwheel racing then any so called phone call you made and after all what has been done to People By ole D.A. due you think they would trust his word or what you say he said when you can't even sign your name to your post.

yes you have the right to say someone is wrong but don't be a coward and not sign your name.
hoping soon you can find something nice to say then I will say welcome to the Board where Bill gives you a place to be able to gripe

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All I can say is that I feel like the little people in the Wizard Of OZ when the house fell on the witch..."Ding dong,,ding dong, D.A is finally GONE!!!!!!!! Jon Gurley :8::32::5: Best of luck to Joe..I know he can make it happen..:9:

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I think everyone is happy about LPS. It is just that Danville was really a bright spot this year and especially for the Illinois guys. If they continue to run sprints, and I hope they do, no other night will work out. They might be able to run Fridays, but that will undoubtedly be the demise of Jacksonville. If they wanted to run Sundays, the proximity to Kokomo would either split the field, or not draw enough cars. I wish they would just run LPS on Sundays, but I guess the Sat. night tradition is not going to allow that to happen. There is a zero percent chance that I will drive to Danville to watch modifieds.

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Originally Posted by SpfldMile:
I think everyone is happy about LPS. It is just that Danville was really a bright spot this year and especially for the Illinois guys. If they continue to run sprints, and I hope they do, no other night will work out. They might be able to run Fridays, but that will undoubtedly be the demise of Jacksonville. If they wanted to run Sundays, the proximity to Kokomo would either split the field, or not draw enough cars. I wish they would just run LPS on Sundays, but I guess the Sat. night tradition is not going to allow that to happen. There is a zero percent chance that I will drive to Danville to watch modifieds.

Now this is just my opinion..but I think a sunday show would go over good.The reason I feel that way is because the cars in the middle to west side of the state(Indiana) cant make it to Kokomo due to work on monday and there is a ton of Illinios cars just looking for somewhere to race so yeah I think Sunday would work out. Oh and with the purse that he pays I think it would be tough to pass up D'ville if you live remotely close.I know the mods would be there for sure..Now that being said a guy might have to cut a class or two so that the race is over as close to 9 as possible..Again just my thinking out loud..
Another thought...A friday night deal would work out too now that I think about it and I sure wouldn't worry about B'town..Your a half a state away...I dunno, gonna be interesting...

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I just read the info on the LPS website, it says that they have to run Saturdays according to the lease. So much for that idea.

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Originally Posted by SpfldMile:
I just read the info on the LPS website, it says that they have to run Saturdays according to the lease. So much for that idea.

Thats a shame.I remember going to P'ville with my dad every Friday night and having a great field of cars..I just hope what ever night they decide to run D'ville on the sprint cars will be the headline...I think that they have proven themselves in Eastern Illinios.

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I also remember going to Putnamville on Friday nights. I also remember that this was during a time when Bloomington was running on Sunday night.

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I'm guessing that Starlene has never been threatened with arrest for talking to friends in the parkin lot at LPS or forced to take a breathilizer test while doing the same, or had to wade through piss in the john, or threatened to have her vehicle towed for parking where she was told by track personnel.

I personally haven't been back to Rutnamville since USAC quit going there. Thanks to Mr. Spiker, I look forward to returning to one of my favorite tracks, where I've seen some great races over the years.

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Originally Posted by mortboyz:
I'm guessing that Starlene has never been threatened with arrest for talking to friends in the parkin lot at LPS or forced to take a breathilizer test while doing the same, or had to wade through piss in the john, or threatened to have her vehicle towed for parking where she was told by track personnel.

I personally haven't been back to Rutnamville since USAC quit going there. Thanks to Mr. Spiker, I look forward to returning to one of my favorite tracks, where I've seen some great races over the years.

I'm with ya!!!! I for see BIG changes comming to "THE NEW LINCOLN PARK SPEEDWAY"!! Sounds good don't it..I was just told August 1st is the new "GRAND REOPENING" can anyone confirm this??This is a GREAT DAY for all race fans and competitors alike...Again "Ding dong,Ding dong,DA is finally gone"!! LET THE NEW ERA BEGIN!!!:8::32::2: Can you tell I'm bored...Stinking rain..

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Danville was a sunday night track for a long time before now from what I remember, I wouldnt be suprised to see them go back to it

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Originally Posted by john3g:
Now this is just my opinion..but I think a sunday show would go over good.The reason I feel that way is because the cars in the middle to west side of the state(Indiana) cant make it to Kokomo due to work on monday and there is a ton of Illinios cars just looking for somewhere to race so yeah I think Sunday would work out. Oh and with the purse that he pays I think it would be tough to pass up D'ville if you live remotely close.I know the mods would be there for sure..Now that being said a guy might have to cut a class or two so that the race is over as close to 9 as possible..Again just my thinking out loud..
Another thought...A friday night deal would work out too now that I think about it and I sure wouldn't worry about B'town..Your a half a state away...I dunno, gonna be interesting...

:8:Joe Spiker definitely has a bunch of things to consider when it comes to the future schedule for VCS. You were definitely right when it comes to getting the fans out of there at a decent time when it comes to racing on a Sunday night. Wonder if Spiker and VCS could get SPRINTS, LATE MODELS, AND MODIFIEDS on a Sunday night card. Those 3 classes would easily be worth $10-12 admission. :) A UMP license perhaps might draw in the late models and modifieds as well. Wonder what the chances are of becoming UMP sanctioned?

My understanding is that he doesn't want to try to compete against Gas City and Bloomington on Friday nights if he tries to keep a sprint class at VCS. That being said, it looks like Sunday late afternoons and evenings might be the direction where things are headed.

The key to me here is getting people home early, and keeping the show moving along.:22:

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Originally Posted by mortboyz:
I'm guessing that Starlene has never been threatened with arrest for talking to friends in the parkin lot at LPS or forced to take a breathilizer test while doing the same, or had to wade through piss in the john, or threatened to have her vehicle towed for parking where she was told by track personnel.

Wasn't that on Fan Appreciation Night? :34:

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I commend Spiker for stepping up and going for what he wants to do no matter what happens. He is doing something he wants and believes in. We can debate all we want on what would be best for the sport as a whole or for our own personal desires. There are so many veiws on this topic some personal. All VALID, to the person/s giving them.

However, one thing I have realized is whatever will happen...will happen, no matter what we think or do. Does our opinion matter sometimes. Yes!

But you can't please everyone.

So, in the end...whatever happens we will all have to accept it weather we want to or not. That is pretty much life.

I don't blame anyone for selling there ideas. At one time, I was all for Montpelier to run sprints. But the time was and still isn't right for it and so be it.

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Originally Posted by T&A Racing:
I commend Spiker for stepping up and going for what he wants to do no matter what happens. He is doing something he wants and believes in. We can debate all we want on what would be best for the sport as a whole or for our own personal desires. There are so many veiws on this topic some personal. All VALID, to the person/s giving them.

However, one thing I have realized is whatever will happen...will happen, no matter what we think or do. Does our opinion matter sometimes. Yes!

But you can't please everyone.

So, in the end...whatever happens we will all have to accept it weather we want to or not. That is pretty much life.

I don't blame anyone for selling there ideas. At one time, I was all for Montpelier to run sprints. But the time was and still isn't right for it and so be it.

Hey Montpelier is now trying to run Late Models every Saturday night.From what I have read the new promoter has made montpelier Speedway really smooth and racey! I personally would like to see Montpelier have weekly late models whether there crate or "super" I also wouldnt mind Danville getting a UMP license and bring back UMP super late models each week. Danville prior to this season I was told "has always been a late model track". I would love to see Danville run Super lates,Sprints,and UMP Modifieds each week that is a racefans dreamcard! I think they should try Fridays for 2 weeks at danville and just "see" how the car counts are then for two weeks run on Sunday night and "see" what the car count is THEN decide what the weekly schedule and night of racing will be.