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I totally believe this, as I have seen it myself at the USAC office...Hoosier Tire and Beast MFG may as well have an office in the USAC building..they are at almost all the meetings...and those are two that are not going to let many changes be made. These ideas have been gone OVER and OVER about cutting costs...Hoosier will wait until pavement racing fails first.

If they are not going to listen to Rob Hoffman...who will they listen to?

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I would definitely like to see a one set per night tire rule.
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Go watch some Dick Wallen videos. Plenty of them out there. Watch Foyt and Pancho and Bettenhausen and other Indy racers battle it out at the fairgrounds, Terre Haute, etc... Then you'd go to the 500 and watch them there also. Maybe the mentality back then was better than today. I know that sounds like shear lunacy to you. But look at the state of USAC today. Everyone is pissed, it's too expensive to run, there is ZERO confidence in leadership, goodbye pavement sprints? Seriously? So how bad do things have to get for you to admit it is in serious trouble? Drop pavement midgets next? Maybe things would change if the mentality went back to what MADE USAC GREAT. That mentality is grass roots racing, not the new "corporate" mentality. How is that working out?

Midgets, sprints and dirt champ car racing is good old fashioned American grass roots racing, always has been, always will be. When you hire a guy from a plush corporate office, who doesn't have his thumb on the pulse of grass roots racing, to come in and reinvent the wheel....it won't work. I give the current gang about 2 more years before they say "screw this", and get the hell out of Dodge. Back to a corporate office job that they understand. By then maybe USAC will be un-repairable. :15:
I sure hope not.
David.

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Silver crown car counts are not going up as said by Kevin Miller,Richomd will be lucky to have 19 silver crown cars and maybe 15 sprint cars. Has far as tires, why not open it back up to the tire companys .There is no quick fix,so good good luck usac:22:

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I'd like to see USAC Thunder LIVE on Sunday night's at Kokomo.
Internet Pay-Per-View with a price under $10, you'll get the stay at home fan , as well as the long distance fans. USAC could partner with the Kokomo track and share the pot all-around.
Get to see close sprint car action every Sunday for the pice of a good pizza.

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I know this is about sprintcars but, at the Silver Crown races it would be nice to be able to have an area to meet some of the drivers that have retired. Past champions and such. Hell I seen Tom Bigelow wondering around at the Hoosier Hundred a few years ago and actually felt sorry for him. He looked lost. Give your champions somewhere to meet and make these races events. A small trailer, provide them with some soda's, coffee some AC. Make them feel like champions. Can you imagine being able to get a picture taken with some of these guys? Group photo's with fans. That's something I could talk about and show friends.:8:

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No one has said anything about the raise (albeit small) in purses this year in USAC. And that doesn't even include the $10,000 to win races that have been added this year....




The $10,000 races, is that Usac or the promoter trying to promote, make money and draw cars. :16

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Such was the case with the difficult decision my team had coming on board in December 2007. What to do with the Silver Crown series, or more directly the "new car". We made a difficult decision to bring back the "traditional" car for pavement...perhaps a popular one for some here on IOW but not without it's own set of conflict (teams, tracks, etc). We now see car counts increasing and the discussion of races increasing for 2010.


I think you miss read something at the very beginning.

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speed9 -
With all due respect, it's not the sanctioning body's job to send all their racers to some other level. The goal should be to have a great series that racers can make money running. That brings in plenty of talent, and when one young guy can come in and regularly beat those amazing veteran racers, he attracts attention from all angles. That's how it's always happened before - it shouldn't change now.

And I love those three racers you mentioned, but they just didn't fit into that mold....it took them quite a few years to reach the current level.

Mr. Ayers-
I've watched every racing video in existence. You probably won't find a 20-something person with more of a grasp on midget and sprint car history. Quite honestly, I should have been around to experience the times you're describing.

But you're just not understanding that it is a new world. Wake up. It's 2009. It's not the same as it once was and it's never going to be like that again. Yeah, that's sad in a way....but along the line we also figured out a way to keep our drivers from getting killed off at an amazing pace. Do you want that back too?

You know what is grass roots racing now? The stuff that a working man can afford to race. It's just that there's about 800 options in that department now. And it doesn't pay anything. USAC racing is just a step above that, and we have to figure out a way to survive by bringing more people in and showing them why we're hooked on it - but it's not as easy as it used to be. People have so many more things to do....and companies have so many more things to sponsor....and TV has so many more things to televise. Sorry, but your precious sprint car racing is not so high on the list anymore, and it's not really anyone's fault.

David, I've always liked you on here and you've been a really nice guy, but seriously, you don't know anything about those people at USAC, or their qualifications, or if they're capable of doing good things. Kevin Miller has never raced at Winchester, but the guy is smart and I love some of the things he comes up with. He stands firm for USAC racing and wants it to succeed. The guy is willing to learn and has invited me into his office countless times to pick my brain on certain subjects, asking for criticism, suggestions, and an occasional pat on the back.

I can't possibly see how all these current problems rest on the shoulders of a current regime that came along a year and a half ago and have done some great things already, and are poised to do even more. Instead of being a bitter old man, maybe you can try to help or at least support those that are trying to keep your sport alive....

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please tell us why he picks your brain? What is your background in racing? AND WE KNOW ITS 2009! THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST 100 YR. YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENTS IN THE THE FIRST HORSE TO WIN THE KENTUCKY DERBY AND MINE THE BIRD AND THE PLACE IS SOLD OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW MUCH HAS BASEBALL CHANGED? BETTER BATS GLOVES BALLS?

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Classy response Kirk, thanks. And 45 is considered old? That sucks. :3:
David.

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Duke-
That's the point. He's willing to talk to anyone who is intelligent and can talk in a sensible way. I guess that would put you out.
If you don't think horse racing or baseball have changed, you're a fool. Everything does. If I had your outlook on it, I would say, "Well, they're still trying to go fast in a circle, just like 100 years ago." But I know better than that...

David-
I hope that wasn't a cheap shot, but that's how you're coming off. When we first met, I'm pretty sure you were cool and young. Don't be one of those bitter guys like Duke!! ;)

My dad was born in 1945, and he's seen it all. From Indy to Knoxville to Ascot to Winchester.....he's seen so many great things that I wish I could have seen...but he always reminds me that as great as things were then, he still appreciates what he's seeing to this day. He's seen some great races, and some great racers, and some amazing sights - but those weren't necessarily better than what he sees now. He thought Indiana Midget Week was some of the best stuff you could see, and I'm sure he'll love this year's Indiana Sprint Week just as much as he did the Knoxville Nationals he saw in the 70s. I just wish everyone could enjoy it the way he does....we have a blast regardless.

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To Spridge:

Your posts on here are among the most intelligent and insightful of any one since Dwight Clock - keep up the great work!

To Duke:

I just made a call to Fairlane, and Old 999 is just about ready for your comeback tour!

later,

Bob Mays

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I will add that you have no idea how right you are in your statement. Echo Boomers are the key. "These "echo boomers" are about 70 million strong, and they are projected to outnumber their parents between 2010 and 2015, according to American Demographics magazine.

Generation Y ranges in age from 10 to 30 currently, and it is the first generation raised in the "brand era." They are extremely loyal to brands that they latch onto in their teen years, and they have funds behind them. Making up slightly more than a quarter of the population, Gen Y (born 1979-1999) has a buying power of $170-$200 billion annually."

Toyota is a client of mine and I recently attended a marketing conference given by the North American President of Marketing. He spoke to how they specifically marketed to this generation, because they will have more buying power than the Baby Boomers and Gen Y two times over. Keep in mind this generation does not know crank windows or manual locks in cars, fast food always had a drive thru and everything is instant gratification. They are the computer generation and the internet generation. Everything can be customized from your cell phone to your music (thank you IPOD) to your vehicle. Thus Toyota introduced the Scion brand and marketed it to this group. Scion was developed with only about 5 models, a certain number of colors, certain number of interior combinations...and there are limited options. Power locks, windows, etc are standard....they then developed a tremendous after-market parts company allowing the Scions to be customized relatively inexpensively.....So you can get a new steering wheel for 50 bucks, new shift, new door handles, etc....all customized...which is what this generation is all about.

Toyota's thinking? Tap into this massive buying power, give them what they are accustomed too, then you will move them from a Scion, right into a Toyota and right into a Lexus as they mature. The marketing, branding, product development were all geared specifically to this generation. And the first advertising??? Geared toward 5th grade boys when it was launched. Even though those boys couldn't drive, Toyota knew if they marketed the brand to them by the time they were able to choose a vehicle they would have them. And they were correct, Scion has been a very successful brand for Toyota and it is a huge hit with that age range.

The key thing he said, if they wanted Toyota to continue to be successful they had to secure a position with this generation because they will be the key to the companies future success, and you don't stick your head in the sand with a $200 billion buying power group and hope they will come find you one day.

So you are 100% correct, if you don't capture this group now you will lose them and it will ultimately be the demise of the sport. They have a million things to pick from and there are many, many more sporting options available now than there were 20-30 years ago. You have to tap into that age group and find a way to market yourself to them in a way they are familiar with.

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this bitter old man seen the first usac race at ft. Wayne 1956 i've been racing from coast to coast not seting in the grandstand!!!!!!!!!!! And i own 5 race horses! Been a driver owner and promoted 20 usac races! And you are a grandstand expert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:14::15:

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go talk too speedy bill maybe he can help you!!!!!!!!!!!!!:14:

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so you want to races with your dad so you think your ready to work for usac? You would fit right in with that back ground!!!!!!!!!!:10::11;:11::11::11;:14:

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I'm not sure who runs USAC. Is it Hoosier or USAC?? When I wanted to run a co-sanction race with the regional midget series they would not run with us even though we allowed American Racer and Hoosier in our Wolverine Series. DK promotions said he would get the race canceled if just one of us ran even one AR tire. I called USAC and they were not sure but called back later to say , yes they could get our race canceled. Hoosier could have our race canceled even though we accept both tires. Who really runs the show? Hoosier, and they are helping to ruin midget and sprint car racing in my opinion. The enormous cost for tires in comparison to start money will continue to kill our sport. Decisions are made on tire brand over what is best for midget racing overall. Remember, Hoosier does what is best for Hoosier not what is best for any series. They want to keep that 100% monopoly even if the numbers go down. I don't have an answer but if tire cost is not gotten under control, racing for the average guy is doomed.
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Kirk, I'm not making the connection to the bitter thing.
I'm pretty sure I have never, ever badmouthed any of today's racers, sponsors, teams or tracks. (except the Eldora dust bowl, :3:) In fact I have the ultimate respect for them and will continue to state that publicly. They are very much as brave today as in any day from the past. I have also publicly thanked the current USAC gang for the cool streaming video among other things. If criticizing them for other things I disagree with is illegal, apologies then.

The point of my earlier post was simply to state that there are SEVERE problems with the state of todays USAC. And I agree a great deal, if not most, of those problems were inherited. I didn't envy the new gang when they assumed power. But it's going to take BIG balls to make the decisions we all know need to be made. I just haven't seen it yet. If you want my "to do list" let me know. ;)

You can say USAC is no longer grass roots, that is fine. We agree to disagree. You say the racing is fantastic. I agree. My issue is this. If the car counts keep dwindling across the ranks, as they are now, is it cool if there are only 10 cars in the feature? Even if the race for the lead is great? Do we keep dropping divisions then? Where does it stop? Once again, we all know what needs to be done.

On a personal note, don't ever think I dislike you or want to take personal slams at you. (I've had people mention that we seem to hate each other!) I can argue with you forever about this stuff but I have total respect for your knowledge and passion of the sport. :6: So shut the hell up. :8:

David.

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Duke is right about USAC being the premier organization back 60's and early 70's, no lack of cars then. It was commonplace to go to the 500 and see them running the next day in a sprinter at New Bremen, when the race was always run on the 30th regardless. They ran the same car at Eldora, New Bremen, Dayton, Winchester and Salem. It can be done.

It's not that I don't find you amusing at times but you have beat this spec car thing to death. Let's face the facts: this is 2009 not 1969,79,89 or 99 ! Things change sometimes they change for the better and sometimes they change for the worse. You get on here and bash everyone that doesn't agree with you and then you want to know what their connection to racing is.
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I have a fans perspective and a midget owners opinion. As a fan the only reason that fans have went away from midget & sprint racing is car counts. There is only a select few teams that show up every week to usac races. Others pick and chose what they can afford. Usacs biggest support is here in Indiana. It needs to be helped here first and then spread out over the country. Also getting usac back on tv would be great, but there is not chance of it making it right now with the state that its in. Car counts need to rise. The only way to gain cars is to bring more competition into the chassis builders, having more than just beast and somehow bringing the cost of parts down. I know what it costs to build the chassis's and engines and its a whole lot less than what all teams are paying. Someone is making good money!!!! Also add rules to make it more of a driver sport than who has the most money. Car counts would be bigger if they didnt have to run against high dollar tony stewart teams etc with much bigger funding....just opinions, i support usac i hope i gets back to what it was.

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Hell folks I've got the answer to all of the problems mentioned here. Why don't we throw a bagazillion dollars at the issues like our friends do in Washington? Doesn't matter if we have enough in the checking account to cover what we are spending does it? I didn't think so.

I have an idea :16

How about I give you Forrest Lucas's checking account number (BR-459) and Mr. Miller takes all the money and fixes USAC's problems and if he has any money left which I doubt he will after seeing all of the problems listed here I would insist that USAC pay for my main man DonMoore10's medical bills.

Oh the ideas that could be acted on...

He can buy frisbees for drivers to toss, since that idea will put fannies in the stands or cars in the pits, he can buy ARCA since they obvioulsy are dragging down USAC, he can buy enough Toyota push trucks with all the unsightly graphics to push all the cars off at once, he can also replace some of that 70's shag carpeting in the office and create a work station for Tony after his mom and sisters run him. With his experience at spending high volumes of cash Tony should be a shoe in for spending some of Mr. Miller's bagazillion dollars as USAC's new marketing genious, no offense to Heidi :) but she doesn't have the experience at spending the mass volume of capital that Tony does. I would also insist that all USAC employees past and present have their Hoosier Tire and B.East tatoos surgically removed or at least have the other tire manufacturers and car builders tatooed on as well. Seems fair to me.

Oh what Mr. Miller couldn't do with a bagazillion dollars. Shoot he could even raise the purse too.

Since the Holiday Inn express I am at turns off the switch to the wifi at 11:30 I am off to bed to let these ideas simmer over night.

Peace and harmony to all and to all a good night. :29:

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So you can try to one up them. I have nothing but respect for anyone that has strapped into a sprint car either past or present. I have been fortunate to have worked with and gotten to know some great drivers and I have never heard any of them brag and beat their own drum like you do. I got to know Bobby Black pretty well and I had watched him race some when I was a kid. He was a great driver and I always tried to get him to tell me about some of the races that he won but he would always wind up telling me
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about how great guys like Gaines and Bob Kinser were. The point here is that the good ones and the great ones don't have to force themselves down everyones throat and they don't have to act like they know everything the way that you do !
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I do not have an answer on how to save the pavement. But I will tell you this if I were to start a series the first person I would hire would be Kirk Spridgeon! He knows more about the sport than most racers know. What I do know is I have been around this sport my whole life and I do not think I have ever seen more competitive nonwing dirt sprint car racing in all of my life from top to bottom. I really think this is what USAC really needs to run with they have a product that is unbelievable if it is promoted properly. They have the action and the personalities all they have to do is promote it. We are all blessed around here with awesome racing right now. The wing deal cannot compete with our product right now in my opinion. So Spridge If I ever run into some money you are my first call buddy.

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Kirk may be in his 20's, but he knows more about racing than you have forgotten.

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I really appreciate that, Kevin. And Tommy.

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USAC has a product to market.....exposure either on TV or better yet on streaming video is the answer[I thought thats what they were experimenting with] If I can watch speedway bikes in Poland? why not sprint cars worldwide..... Its not just purse money from racing that racers need ..but the opertunity to gain sponsers with worldwide exposure...time delayed-edited -promoted ..I think at least the dirt cars could be successful in this format

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Well stated, Kevin. But I would also go so far as saying that the dirt sprint car racing, as good as it is withing the USAC sanction, is great throughout the state of Indiana. I spend quite a bit of money and all my vacation time traveling north just so that I can be a small part of it. Because I have also been around racing almost my entire life, and I don't really recall ever seeing cometition as good as I have seen it up there in the last few years. And there was some really good racing in Norcal back in the 70's.

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Here is the deal...Kevin Miller acts like he is listening to opinions...ready to try new things...but when the idea comes to CUT COSTS of the race teams....that falls on deaf ears....

Like I said before...if your not going to listen to the Hoffman Race teams suggestions...unselfish suggestions...THEN THEY WON'T REALLY TAKE ANYONE'S ADVICE....But they take Hoosier and Bob Easts advice EVERYDAY.

If the idea is about allowing rules that cut tire costs...or allow greater chassis savings, or variety...YOU CAN FORGET IT...

I have had Bob East call me and tell me if I did not run a certain USAC regional HOOSIER Tire...."Well these young drivers are not going to run with you." Who in the hell does this guy think he is?

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If I ran USAC... Dirt and Pavement would be split.

Now, of course there is no way that will ever happen(I run USAC)... so I leave you with this... Goodluck, and I wish you well.

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Three things:

1. Does all the fragmenting (splits) into an overabundance of sanctiong bodies make a difference in car counts with USAC? It seems like whenever feelings get hurt or somebody gets riled up, they start their own deal. There are too many sanctioning bodies out there and nobody is better for it (except maybe ASCS).

2. I think Kirk Spridgeon mentioned in an earlier post about the potential new young fans identifying with USAC young guns (Cole Whitt, Chad Boat, etc.) to help increase attendance. Great in theory. But the only problem with that is these young guns are using USAC as vehicle to further their career and move up the ladder to (gasp) NASCARland. They are here three or four years tops and then are gone. It's hard to build a young fan base with that happening. USAC used to be a destination. Except for a Darland, or a Coons, how many drivers have stayed with USAC for more that three or four years since the start of the 21st century? Not many. Just to confirm my point, read this article: http://www.hardcoreracefans.com/feat...g-gun-to-watch

3. I usually try to be positive and look at the bright side. This post really didn't come off that way, did it?:19:

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That's a pretty ridiculous statement, and I'm pretty sure you got it backwards anyway. Why all the comparisons?

I like them both, and they both know their ****. Can't we just leave it at that?

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If you read some of the posts on here from key people that have walked the walk, you'd figure out that you're wasting your precious time posting on this topic. :13:

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Here are the new ideas that Kevin Miller has had so far:

Improve the website..Streaming....( But how does this help the front gate?)

Start collecting fees from the .25's

Force a good man out...Greg Staab...

Install a couple guys who couldn't sell asphalt racing in the past.

Start promoting their own races...It looks like they are promoting the rained out Midget Week date..because they have been getting GREAT raindates....I wasn't even offered a date to postpone my UCS race to.. Since USAC has the Midget Week date I had...maybe they didn't mind seeing the top 4 teams decide to pack up and leave on me.

THEN THEY MOVE IT TO A TRACK...WHERE THE LAST TIME THERE...LEVI JONES LEFT THE BALLPARK!

If you are a promoter..remember...USAC is now promoting their own races..that may conflict with you.

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Same thing happened to us at Wolverine except Don Kenyon made the call. Hoosier runs USAC , it's not the other way around. They determine who you can run with and who runs with you. Dan

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That's what got USAC in some of the trouble they are in today.:5:

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Wow, what an interesting thread. I haven't been here in a few days. and we're up to 13 pages. And it's full of a lot of interesting, cogent, and well-worded posts, as well as a few bashes.

Dan and Tony. as promoters, you have a different point of view of USAC, and that's OK by me - but you're not likely to resolve your difference with USAC by airing them here. Here's a thought - there would be no USAC if NO promoters sanctioned shows or rented their tracks to USAC. But some promoters and track owners do so and actually make a buck at it. So that says what it says.

Duke - I'd like to think that no one here disrespects your accomplishments as a driver. But until you can learn to treat other posters with some degree of courtesy, you'll continue to be seen as a bitter old man, by some. I know that I find both humor and disgust in some of your posts. And no reply is necessary, since I know that you don't care what I(or anyone else) think about you.

Spridge - Your well parsed posts are a pleasure to read, both well thought out and well worded. If others knew how passionately you loved the sport, they'd appreciate your efforts more. I'm glad that we had a chance to meet a few years back at Bloomington, and hope that you continue to do your fine work on behalf of sprint car racing.

Racerrob - Your perspective and honesty are enlightening and provide another perspective to some of the issues facong USAC an sprint car racing. Just keep putting that car on the track!

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Sprinter 25 , I just wish USAC would try to be more flexible because we could do so much more together. The problem is that they take their direction from Hoosier. I really don't have a beef with USAC per say but the idea that they can't be more inclusive and less exclusive with their rules and tires hurts us all. I just wish they had the balls do to things without getting Hoosier's OK on everything. If they look at their own car count and take off the blinders, they would see they need us as much as we need them to succeed. We could have done more with them and had much greater car counts but their not interested because Hoosier only wants races that our 100% Hoosier. That leads to races with 10-12 car fields separately instead of 20 cars together. I know when it comes to the regional series, Hoosier makes the call on all the races no matter what you may have heard. I have first hand experience dealing with these people. Is this what is best for USAC?? Maybe it is but it's not what's best for increasing our numbers. Dan

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Hey,

I appreciate your observations..and in all due respect...these are facts that happened..Hoffman making the suggestions...Bob East the chassis builder calling to force Hoosier Tires down my throat.., Dans situation...those are not "views"...they actually happened.

I have another question...Who has their fingerprints on the TOTAL screwup of the Ford Focus Division?....This was a GREAT idea USAC....dirt and pavement midgets....dirt is where they could really spread midget racing...thus making asphalt easier to sell...

Someone TOTALLY messed up that entire concept...someone very close to the situation...by going to ALL PAVEMENT....Can you name that rocket scientist? Or group of scientists?

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Again, you're blaming things on people who no longer work at USAC or are being directed by different people.

Even though I hate that Hoosier has such a grasp on everything, should USAC just break a binding contract that is already in place just to please you? That makes a lot of sense. I truly hope that something happens with this monopoly in the near future, but you can't just do it overnight.

Is it Bob East's fault that he had the foresight to build a pavement-only car that has become the standard for all of pavement racing? From what I can see, nobody put the effort into it that he did. Now, he basically has everyone running his cars without it being mandated. Pretty amazing...
I'd love to see another viable option come up, but it's just not happening. And any different type of car is basically described to me as "a Beast with a different hood."

Seadog - that was not me. I think the young drivers in USAC are great, but the guys you need to talk about the most are the Coons, Darland, Hines, Gardner, Kuhn, etc. The younger group will change from year to year, but that is what makes them so well-liked by younger kids. It is cool to see kids like Whitt, Boat, etc. and when/if they ever leave for something else, there will be a new group to replace them.

As much as Tony Barhorst has some good ideas and views on the situation (along with some that aren't so great), I have seen him in the heat of the moment lose his head and I can see that same problem cropping up with each post he makes. It would be so nice if he could calmly address the situation without calling anybody out, or throwing anyone under the bus, or basically shedding tears over how badly everyone has wronged him...

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Oops , I can answer this one !!!!!!!!!!!!

ERIC BUNN

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Spridge,

I am very cool headed in my air conditioning today...and again..I am pointing out facts...not made up stuff here.

Now here is an opinion...I do NOT think that a chassis builder..(who is a competitor)...should be a MAJOR influence on decisions by the sanctioning body...I think this guy has been involved in a lot of bad influence..Now THAT is an OPINION.

In regard to "losing my head" that day..well...I was not called by the current leaders..and offered any advice on makeup dates for UPSET FANS...any professional entertainment company would have at least had the main guys call with help....Now they have my Thursday Midget Week date...AT A TRACK THAT LEVI JONES LEFT THE BALLPARK THE VERY LAST TIME THERE?...What is safer there NOW? IRONIC!!!

Bob East and Eric Bunn...they were a duo at USAC on many matters...

Lets see how many cars are at Richmond...Where are the ideas?...Too busy collecting money from .25's