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Jhouts06 10/8/14 9:25 PM

Looks like Tim did win a WOO race at Paragon 7/13/83. Unless I've miss understood the info the link below provides.
http://www.coracingworld.com/stats/woo_sc_wins.html

KKinser99 10/13/14 10:18 AM

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I assume Bloomington speedway should have some news on this class soon. I want to start building.

DAD 10/13/14 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KKinser99:
I assume Bloomington speedway should have some news on this class soon. I want to start building.

I just went to Jacksonville Speedway to check on the Poweri race results and stumbled on to the rules they are proposing for their new 305 sprint class. It appears that they have put a lot of thought into their package and it make some good reading for potential rules for a 305 CI Sprint class. By opening up the rule package a little they should increase their car count and can still control things with weight etc.

Follow link http://jacksonvillespeedway.com/305-sprint-rules/

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Hotshoe65s 10/13/14 12:39 PM

Instead of trying to figure out how to create a new class and treat them right, why don't you start by treating the people who already support you right.
A good modified cost more money than a good sprint car now days. There are guys selling their USED mods as rollers for $16,000 and then selling their used engines for over $18,000. Then they run for $100 to start and $600 to win most nights. They need to be running for closer to $1000 to win and $200 to start. Do that and watch the mod class take off.
Also the hornets are running for pennies. I know it is a very low budget class, but some tracks pay less to start for the hornets than they charge the driver for a pit pass.

DAD 10/13/14 1:02 PM

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With the sound of those numbers you are talking about seems like a real good excuse to switch over and race a 305 Sprint Car.

Nothing worse than sitting in the shoot waiting for them to finish an Open Wheel Mod race, one lap at a time. With a little wider rear tire, a few less adjustments to the rear suspension, or a $10,000.00 Traction control they might be able to keep them all going in the right direction for most of the race.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Hotshoe65s 10/13/14 1:16 PM

Originally Posted by DAD:
Hot

With the sound of those numbers you are talking about seems like a real good excuse to switch over and race a 305 Sprint Car.

Nothing worse than sitting in the shoot waiting for them to finish an Open Wheel Mod race, one lap at a time. With a little wider rear tire, a few less adjustments to the rear suspension, or a $10,000.00 Traction control they might be able to keep them all going in the right direction for most of the race.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Yeah mods are overpowered and harder to drive than just about any other type of dirt car. Then when you get guys with no experience and some with little to no talent or with subpar equipment, they tend to cause a lot of cautions. But a lot of mod races are just as quick as sprint races that have 1-2 reds for flips.
But I doubt you get any mod guys that switch to a 305. Most mod guys wanna stick to mods, hence why they continue to spend ungodly amounts of money to race mods instead of spending the same to race a winning 410. I think a lot of it has to do with the risk of getting hurt. Most mod guys can't afford to miss work cause of a racing injury.

DAD 10/13/14 1:56 PM

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I agree 100%, Mods with good drivers put on a heck of a show, Mods with beginners in the seat are a pain. I have also see a bunch of mods wadded up like a pretzel. One reason for this is a lot of them, probably the same ones with the attitude of win at any cost are buying cars constructed with really thin walled tubing much thinner than the rules call for.

I "Preach Wings", In the 305's they will help out them heavy footed beginners, will speed up the Journeyman racer to speeds closer to the 410's speed, and to boot them wings sure cushion out a hard flip eating up a bunch of energy that that 4130 tubing seems to only amplify, kinda of like a "Supper Ball" compared to a "Nerf ball".

We run a lot of Wings in Mini Sprints turn times faster than most Mod times, can usually run a main without a caution or red flag, and if I saw them as Dangerous I wouldn't let my son race one.

The 305 Sprints sure look Good To Me.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

dirt in ur beer 10/13/14 7:18 PM

According to the poll #s Ebola is more welcome in indiana than racesaver sprints.

DAD 10/13/14 7:21 PM

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dirt

Count the first two poll options as one and it looks a lot better.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

KKinser99 10/13/14 10:30 PM

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I have talked to a few mod guys and they said they will be 305 racing if the pay is better than they are currently getting.

grumpy racer 10/15/14 11:12 AM

Here you go boys pay 6000 to win 600 to start you will have 50 cars and can run only 1 support class. I'll buy 2 motors today. The 305 has a place in racing but it is not going to pay what all you want it to. This is a starter class compare payout to minisprints this would be more in line. I have enough old parts for a starter car to get a young guy going but here's what people don't get it's one thing to build a car its another to race it. Start adding spares you will crash fact. need stager tires and wheels it all adds up not to mention wings. I hope this all works out but as I see all the time people saying they will build and really doing it are far between. This could be good for 410 and USAC in more than 1 way you may not get to see them all time so when they are around you better go. Good luck to the new guys in 305s hope you can move up to 410 someday we will welcome you.

thunderracing91 10/17/14 8:55 PM

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Here is what we run at 34 raceway in West Burlington, IA. Similar to Knoxville 305 rules only we run wet sump. Car count is anywhere from 20-24 most nights. Had 31 cars for the 1st annual 305 sprint nationals this year.

http://www.34raceway.com/wp-content/...ART-update.pdf

www.34raceway.com


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