Oldfan may have said it the best. Look, fellas, you have a smorgasbord of options there. Kokomo is so far away from Haubstaudt. Try going to either track from southeast Michigan! I'd like to see a survey that asks the complainers how far they travel to see a race.

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looks like most indiana race tracks are within an hour or so of indianapolis (or cinci for the burg) now lets talk about poor promotors; then lets look back at a guy named earl baltes, his track was way out in a cornfield in b f e with no major cities in sight, yet mr. baltes took the bull by the horn and turned his race track into the largest town in darke county on race nights by having fun with promoting races and working his tail off doing so; talk about innovation and rolling the dice! i sure would like to see someone step up to the plate with that kind of resolve and enthusiasm again!

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:44:..........Bout to run out of corn on this one......Sigh....

Originally Posted by cwfan08:
As for the scheduling other shows, I just dont think promoters can take a chance on running something other than their regular show. Gas City tried the Sunoco alms series a few years and the car counts just dropped off. Why pay out a larger purse for a series and not get the fans or the cars to support it? LPS did the summer nats and it didnt seem like the fans supported that with a pretty high purse. Sorry for getting off topic but there were some other questions about other series lol =P

Tyler

You're against just about anything other than non-wing sprints and midgets. The alms races at gas city were outstanding for 4 or 5 years, and they had a northern all stars race won by Doug McCammon that was great too. Then the weather seemed to lead to several rainouts of scheduled late model shows, and the class was more like a red-headed step child that received very little promotion. They had some excellent 360 shows, an all star race in 04 that was really good, and several other GLOSS and MASS series winged sprint shows. I went to all of them, and never once left disappointed. Almost all were very well attended, so to generalize it and say they won't work is wrong. The LPS (and Kokomo for that matter) summer nationals races were on week nights, so of course they wouldn't draw the same crowd as a weekend show. Give these kinds of shows a fair chance, do some promotion, and they will become a nice alternative to add to a schedule when sprints have a big show somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by hoosier race fan:
You're against just about anything other than non-wing sprints and midgets. The alms races at gas city were outstanding for 4 or 5 years, and they had a northern all stars race won by Doug McCammon that was great too. Then the weather seemed to lead to several rainouts of scheduled late model shows, and the class was more like a red-headed step child that received very little promotion. They had some excellent 360 shows, an all star race in 04 that was really good, and several other GLOSS and MASS series winged sprint shows. I went to all of them, and never once left disappointed. Almost all were very well attended, so to generalize it and say they won't work is wrong. The LPS (and Kokomo for that matter) summer nationals races were on week nights, so of course they wouldn't draw the same crowd as a weekend show. Give these kinds of shows a fair chance, do some promotion, and they will become a nice alternative to add to a schedule when sprints have a big show somewhere else.

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Some of us drive hundreds of miles for just such action. Those tracks should run what works. Indiana is blessed with what it has.

indiana is indeed blessed!

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Pick you a track and go watch... Get you a mobile device so you can get updates as you watch...

KISS really doesn`t pay that much more over a regular show anyway... Besides... Who is the ram rod of this KISS bunch anyway? I have been a party to these shows for years and haven`t met Mr. (or Mrs.) KISS to know who is the backer of this carnival of speed. Is there a board of directors , president , janitor ? Or is this a cumulative effort of local promoters trying to make a buck?

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With the weather this spring, it really hasn't mattered much who's scheduled what.:7:

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As I was getting ready to score the MSCS race at Haubstadt last Sunday I looked to my left and saw 2 yellow papers and they said Kiss Mike And other said Kiss Dawn I passed on both Still don;t know who they were just know they were with Kiss Maybe it was Gene Simmons without makeup:6:

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Thinking about it today,it would be really interesting to see the stats on KISS races for the last few years. Who has raced in every race by year etc.

Remember it was started by Gerry Olsen at the.Speedway Motel don't know who runs it now

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Wow, so you don't want promotors to run sprints or pay more money? I thought the ideal was to have tracks run every week and pay bigger purses. Fans are hard to please!

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i say let it be , its been going on for years, one way or another , most teams that compete at lps arent going to go to paragon to race kiss , most teams that compete at paragon arent going to lps to race kiss, same with bloomington,gascity,tss & the burg . the guys that race kiss mostly are money racers! they chase it cause thats how they make a living or suppliment there income ! so you get the hand full of big guns along with your local racers at every track. :6:

didn't really mattter none did it now?

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And all I wanted is for Limaland to run the non wingers a couple of Friday nights or heck with it the car counts are there just put them on the card.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
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Charles your gonna some weight with all the popcorn you eat.:D

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My partner in crime and myself had this conversation yesterday! When we were looking at the track schedules for this weekend (if it didn't rain...hahaha), we were faced with a decision as to what track to attend. We don't just follow sprints, we also love modifieds. The modified class doesn't have near the amount of big shows that sprints have, and of all things, Brownstown and LPS had 1,000 to win in the modified class this past weekend! I don't understand why they do this to the drivers and the fans; there are plenty of other Saturday nights that there is not a higher paying modified show anywhere in Indiana. I take my hat off to Tri-State and Lawrenceburg this racing season, they have both put large purse mod races on the card, and thank heavens, not on the same weekend! I realize we should be happy about getting to see the racing at all, but why not give these guys the chance to attend all of the shows that pay more money by not scheduling the few higher purses on the same night.