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With Kokomo rained out, I was stuck watching tv racing. The Indycar race was by far more entertaining.(even on a street course) One positive note from a blown call, Indy sports radio were talking about the Edmonton instead of the Hickyard 400.

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This is a horrible rule. It is rules like this that keep me away from Indy car racing. I don't understand the point of a rule that requires a driver to just rollover and get passed. Seems to me 2nd place is the place to be on a restart because the leader has to give you the best line and let you pass him. JMO

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agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I thought it was amazing that Power threw Helio under the bus and didn't say a thing about Dixon nearly wrecking him. If you watch the video you can see Power all over the brakes to keep from running into Dixon. With all this discussion about the IRL rules, I thought they had rules about agressive driving. Dixon only won because Power didn't wreck both of them. Nascar and the IRL, WWF with 4 wheels. :7:

Vern Plotts

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The way that rule reads to me is that the only car that can actually make an inside pass without violating the rule would be the last car running on the track.

If I am behind a car and see them go low; I just drop down and radio in that they are blocking me.

That is absurd.

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Yep, just like the wrestling some of it seems scripted. These organizations could face financial ruin if they dont get back to their roots. I give it a couple of years with the direction the economy is heading.

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Lets just line them up 2 wide on the restarts so we can have a bunch of make believe passing :17:

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Actually it's the opposite. Every car on the track can dive low if they have a legitmate shot at passing, EXCEPT the leader. (who is he gonna pass?)
Unfortunately for Helio, he was the leader....and decided to go low anyway. An obvious blocking situation. Pretty cut and dry.
David.

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Their rule is total BS. As the leader I have to let second place have the inside line into the corner. What a joke. The leader should be able to defend his position by choosing which ever line he wants to run on a restart.

IRL = Ignorant Rules League

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I agree. The leader (or any car for that matter) should be able to use any piece of pavement available. I don't like the rule and I'm not defending it. I'm just sayin, it's their rule and I can't understand what all the controversy is about. It's very clear. Stupid....but clear.

I'm a much bigger fan of the "you get one move" theory. Someone attempts to pass you, you get one defensive move, anything else is a block. In other words....no weaving down the front stretch with a guy trying to pass you. Again, my humble opinion.
David.

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"Lets just line them up 2 wide on the restarts so we can have a bunch of make believe passing"
...Or we could line them up single file and make a rule that requires driver's to move over and let the car behind them pass. That always makes for good racing.

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If they don't want the drivers to block, why not just take the mirrors off the cars, and eliminate the radios and spotters?

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The leader can run the low side in the corner, but he must take the competitive racing lane to the corner. I do agree with you the rule needs to be changed or adjusted, but atleast they followed the rule they have.

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Exactly. The photo below shows your point perfectly.

The field is sweeping up into the racing lane. Will power got a good jump and tried to pass Helio underneath, totally legal. Helio stayed low to block, totally illegal.

Again, I don't really agree with the rule, but it is painfully obvious he broke the rule.

David.


http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c1...helioblock.jpg

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How to win an Indycar race. Try to pass on the outside. Simple, because if someone tries to pass on the outside, the guy on the inside is obviously blocking nd should be penalized. Therefore, you get the spot. Easy!

***?!?!? Seriously, if someone tries to pass you on the outside, you're blocking?

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this picture actually shows that will power should have been penalized for blocking too.....barnhart said in the meeting that the rule was enforced from the braking zone to corner entry. the cones on both sides of the track mark the braking zone.......so i guess power was blocking too.........where is the penalty for him?

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Because Dixon isn't under his wing or trying to pass him underneath. Dixon is in the "racing line" not the "passing line". I know, it's stupid, but that's the rule. Even if Dixon was trying to pass Power, Helio would still be the only one penalized because he can't be low since he was the leader and not trying to pass anyone. In that situation, both Dixon and Power would be legal because they had legitimate passing attempts in progress. Bottom line, the leader has to be in the "racing line", otherwise he is blocking. None of us seem to be happy about the rule, but for now, that's the rule.
David.

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There is a difference between defending your position as the leader and blocking to keep the lead. That rule (an absolutely ridiculous rule) does not prevent blocking, it prevents defending your position as the leader....which you should ALWAYS be able to do. You should ALWAYS be able to pick your line as the leader.

That’s like telling a driver at a dirt track that they must restart at the cushion each time the green comes out. Everybody else can drive under them down low. The high line might not be the best place to restart all the time.

Barnhart called the rule correctly, but the rule makes no sense. Barnhart needs to go regardless.... Time for a fresh start which is what the IRL is trying to do. He needs to be part of the fresh start.

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looking at that picture it looks like they could go 10 wide down the staight and 3 wide into the turn. blocking? i agree that the mirrors should go. maybe then more guys could get a wheel along side of each other. then you would either let the guy have that line or the big one.