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samtheone 1/9/08 3:13 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Ad me to the Swindell list Pine.

Pine 1/9/08 3:13 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by samtheone:
Ad me to the Swindell list Pine.

LOL....You got it :rolling:

tonyj 1/9/08 3:48 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Hawker...better let it go. Out of the dozens of flips to be seen this week in Oklahoma, this one is the ONLY ONE that matters to some.

Shawn Harper 1/9/08 4:31 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Im with ya Pine. Dave's name shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence with swindell's. Dave would have my back any day.:thumb:

Doug Bushey 1/9/08 5:32 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I'm curious...of all the haters on here:

How many have actually met or had a conversation with Kevin Swindell? I have. He is actually a fun guy to hang out with.

How many have driven a race car of any kind? I have. It's extremely difficult to master. Kevin has impressed me tremendously over the last few years. I've never seen a lap like the record-setting one he made at Tulare, CA. in WoO competition.

Kevin is definitely a stand-on-the-gas shoe and seems fearless behind the wheel. Some criticize that, but take a good look at the early records of the sport's greatest...most have similar growing pains. Those we worship now all tore up a bunch of equipment finding the edge and mastering their skills.

Give the guy a break...especially if you have no personal account of what your dishing out.

Seadog 1/9/08 5:40 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Doug Bushey:
I'm curious...of all the haters on here:

How many have actually met or had a conversation with Kevin Swindell? I have. He is actually a fun guy to hang out with.

How many have driven a race car of any kind? I have. It's extremely difficult to master. Kevin has impressed me tremendously over the last few years. I've never seen a lap like the record-setting one he made at Tulare, CA. in WoO competition.

Kevin is definitely a stand-on-the-gas shoe and seems fearless behind the wheel. Some criticize that, but take a good look at the early records of the sport's greatest...most have similar growing pains. Those we worship now all tore up a bunch of equipment finding the edge and mastering their skills.

Give the guy a break...especially if you have no personal account of what your dishing out.

Just because somebody is a great guy off the track, doesn't mean they are the same way on track.

There's a reason why people get a certain kind of reputation.

OpenwheelRob 1/9/08 5:59 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Hawker:
FYI - Technically, I really wouldn't call Kevin's deal a flip. The inside berm is the tallest I have seen it in the 17 years I've been going to the Chili Bowl. It is roughly 20" to 24" high and VERY uneven. 5 of the 9 cars that flipped today/night were from just touching the berm. Once the LF touches it, it sucks the car right in. Kevin just touched it with the LF, it sucked the car in and tripped over the LF and he caught in by making a hard right turn and the car basically did a pirouette. There will be a lot of cars destroyed by the larger berm this year, mark my words.


Before he could climb out of his car, His daddy Sammy snuck up behind the berm and sucker punched it.:rolling:

Glad Brad 1/9/08 6:20 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Doug Bushey:
I'm curious...of all the haters on here:

How many have actually met or had a conversation with Kevin Swindell? I have. He is actually a fun guy to hang out with.

How many have driven a race car of any kind? I have. It's extremely difficult to master. Kevin has impressed me tremendously over the last few years. I've never seen a lap like the record-setting one he made at Tulare, CA. in WoO competition.

Kevin is definitely a stand-on-the-gas shoe and seems fearless behind the wheel. Some criticize that, but take a good look at the early records of the sport's greatest...most have similar growing pains. Those we worship now all tore up a bunch of equipment finding the edge and mastering their skills.

Give the guy a break...especially if you have no personal account of what your dishing out.

Excellent reply.:thumb::checkered::applaud::prafan::respect:

Glad Brad 1/9/08 6:23 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Pine:
Keep up the good work Hawker and Brad. You defended Sammy for 30 years. Now you only have about 29 1/2 years left to defend K. Swindell. Mentioning the Swindell's and Dave Darland in the same sentence is almost worth a :icon_smile_blackeye......:rolling:

P.S..All you have to do is look where these guys' are from. If I was a SPRINT CAR FAN and lived in BUM F***** EGYPT I'd be pissed too:doh:.

Only a select few have the privilege of living in God's country. I am blessed.

tailtank 1/9/08 6:28 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I wonder how bad this world would be if there were message boards back in the day when Foyt, Andretti, Kinser and Darland first started out? Those guys wouldn't have had a chance either........:kookoo2:

Charles Nungester 1/9/08 7:08 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by tailtank:
I wonder how bad this world would be if there were message boards back in the day when Foyt, Andretti, Kinser and Darland first started out? Those guys wouldn't have had a chance either........:kookoo2:

Skip darland here but if those guys got upside down the amount of times Kevin has, Quite simply, They wouldn't be here. No helmet, A leather strap for belts and no cage.

Sorry Tail Tank, Your totally wrong and must be on Sammys Payroll :)

tailtank 1/9/08 8:45 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Not quite..........

The kid is 19, do you know how DD was at 19? probably not. I'm sure he had his enemies back then as well. I'm sure all the biggies had their defactors back then. They just didn't have the internet to run their mouths like some do here.

Like Hawker said if your going to bash somebody, at least be fair about it.

The kid says something at one race that people get upset about and they let it keep digging a burr in their butts. He wasn't the first and will not be the last. Get over it.:doh:

Dirtfan 1/9/08 9:05 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I know Bill has "given" all of us this board for racing info, schedules, results and a host of other agendas, for which I am for one enternally THANKFUL, but IMHO have we acquired some wanged posters from another unamed website?:action-smiley-049:

Rex W. 1/9/08 9:05 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Man this is good stuff. I wanna post something but i will keep it to myself.

O hell " but IMHO have we acquired some wanged posters from another unamed website?"
Whats wrong with that?

Dirtfan 1/9/08 9:11 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Rex W.:
Man this is good stuff. I wanna post something but i will keep it to myself.

O hell " but IMHO have we acquired some wanged posters from another unamed website?"
Whats wrong with that?

Come on let it out!! Man I thought it was still too cold to go fishing but by golly I have hooked one:D

Rex W. 1/9/08 9:13 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Come on let it out!! Man I thought it was still too cold to go fishing but by golly I have hooked one:D

Sorry bud but u havn't hook ****

Dirtfan 1/9/08 9:17 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Rex W.:
Sorry bud but u havn't hook ****

AHA, used your utility belt didn't you:)

hosstalker 1/9/08 9:47 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by tailtank:
Not quite..........

The kid is 19, do you know how DD was at 19? probably not. I'm sure he had his enemies back then as well. I'm sure all the biggies had their defactors back then. They just didn't have the internet to run their mouths like some do here..:doh:

I recall this kid Darland in a yellow 36d in the middle 80s. It's the first I remember of him. Quiet, intense and well respected. His dad Bob was right there making sure he stayed that way too.

"Darlands Garage" bought the big two row tire rack open trailer. The pickup truck was function over form. They graced and raced prestigious places like Warsaw Speedway. He won a Hurryin Hoosiers race from the back one night. The press release made a point to notice the usually calm and reserved driver's 'enthusiastic crowd pleasing win'.

Kevin CAN'T grow up that way. It's a different world. Different family. Different philosophy-for sure. Kevin's laying the foundation of a career, and he is the one in control of it's destiny. Just like 'DD' years ago.

Dave got into the top shelf rides because even they couldn't afford bent equipment back then. Car owners knew he took care of his stuff-and had beaten them with it.

Today the money in the sport has allowed more leeway for bent stuff. The racecar doesn't have to pay for itself, or even try to anymore. That is a big difference. Having the spare car, or parts to put it back together is a huge factor in how hard Swindell runs the cars. But the money says he can-so he can.

I'd like to see Swindell be successful in racing. He can put together good laps at the oddest times and run well. He'll stick around, even if he bounces around some this year or next.

The fact everyone knows is that he won't be successful until he consistently competes clean and hard and finishes up front. Until then, he moves everyone else up a spot.

Sorry for the ramble...

Joe Kidd 1/9/08 9:58 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Dirtfan:
Come on let it out!! Man I thought it was still too cold to go fishing but by golly I have hooked one:D

You aint much of a fisherman then. It's never to cold to go fishing. I just got my limit of crappies and a couple of walleyes today at Mississinawa.

Dirtfan 1/9/08 10:02 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Joe Kidd:
You aint much of a fisherman then. It's never to cold to go fishing. I just got my limit of crappies and a couple of walleyes today at Mississinawa.

Depends maybe on what one is fishing for:idea:

Joey Woods 1/9/08 11:40 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Joe Kidd:
You aint much of a fisherman then. It's never to cold to go fishing. I just got my limit of crappies and a couple of walleyes today at Mississinawa.

Boy does some fried crappie sound good about now!

tailtank 1/10/08 12:24 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
hosstalker, I can respect your post, thanks.:respect:

Flatrightrear 1/10/08 12:51 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Good post, hosstalker. Here I thought all the hatred for the Swindells' had been exhausted in an earlier thread a few weeks ago but I guess not. Kinda sad, really.

Rex W. 1/10/08 12:57 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Flatrightrear:
Good post, hosstalker. Here I thought all the hatred for the Swindells' had been exhausted in an earlier thread a few weeks ago but I guess not. Kinda sad, really.

Where is that dead horse pic when ya need it. Some just need to hang onto somethings i guess.

Racer12 1/10/08 1:21 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I just want to say thank you to all who posted on this subject. It was quite entertaining! I love when people stir up some s#!*.

Bob Shutt:emote20:

Hawker 1/10/08 3:08 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Pine:
P.S..All you have to do is look where these guys' are from. If I was a SPRINT CAR FAN and lived in BUM F***** EGYPT I'd be pissed too:doh:.

Pine - Keep showing you stupidity. I'll compare event attended with you or anyone else on this board ANY DAY. Where a person calls home has no meaning on his "level of being a fan". I have been to races all over the country and I've seen the greatest drivers to ever strap in. I'd be willing to bet that I've seen a wider variety of nonwing racing than you could ever dream about.

Here's a little trivia for ya. The biggest nonwing race in the WORLD is where? OKLAHOMA.......Where's the 2nd biggest nonwing race? KANSAS..... Where's the 3rd biggest nonwing race? Arizona....Where was the highest paying nonwing race of all time? OHIO........ How's the nonwing racing out there in PA? Oops, sorry to blow your cover...

BTW, where are you this week? Had to miss out on the best racing on the planet? Sorry about your luck. Maybe next year...

Barney 1/10/08 7:37 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Joe Kidd:
You aint much of a fisherman then. It's never to cold to go fishing. I just got my limit of crappies and a couple of walleyes today at Mississinawa.

I agree we had a nice mess of Sauger sunday from the Ohio River.:thumb:

Seadog 1/10/08 9:10 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Rex W.:
Where is that dead horse pic when ya need it. Some just need to hang onto somethings i guess.

The reason that the horse is dead is because Sammy sucker punched him. Sammy got the idea from watching Blazing Saddles.:emote20:

nowingsjeff 1/10/08 11:06 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
If this is such a dead horse why does any thread that mentions the Swindell name generate so many posts?

Rex W. 1/10/08 11:39 AM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by nowingsjeff:
If this is such a dead horse why does any thread that mentions the Swindell name generate so many posts?

I guess it's because some just have a hard on for the Swindells

RDS2 1/10/08 1:21 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Kevin is not the first driver to go through a season like he did last year. No doubt that there is room for improvement in his skills. What amazes me is the continued bashing that he recieves. Yes he needs to demonstrate changes to his driving habits in order to recieve the desirved praises for the talent he has. He is not the first driver that ever had problems, or will he ever be the last. His return next season will hopefully demonstrate his ability and desire to improve and scucceed in this sport. I look forward to seeing him return wth renewed emphisis for a successful safe season of racing.
Ron

Pine 1/10/08 1:23 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Hawker:
Pine - Keep showing you stupidity. I'll compare event attended with you or anyone else on this board ANY DAY. Where a person calls home has no meaning on his "level of being a fan". I have been to races all over the country and I've seen the greatest drivers to ever strap in. I'd be willing to bet that I've seen a wider variety of nonwing racing than you could ever dream about.

Here's a little trivia for ya. The biggest nonwing race in the WORLD is where? OKLAHOMA.......Where's the 2nd biggest nonwing race? KANSAS..... Where's the 3rd biggest nonwing race? Arizona....Where was the highest paying nonwing race of all time? OHIO........ How's the nonwing racing out there in PA? Oops, sorry to blow your cover...

BTW, where are you this week? Had to miss out on the best racing on the planet? Sorry about your luck. Maybe next year...

If you think where your from has no bearing on how you SEE a race your kidding yourself. When Sammy comes through your neck of the woods, and takes someone out, or gives them a wheel for position or to qualify or for the win, because he wasn't able to get by, by racing them, it was probably just Kinser or Schatz or Wolfgang or Blaney or Haud or Shuman, ect. ect. ect. That's great racing RIGHT. BUT, he's been taking our top drivers out for 25 years. From Paxton and Smokey Snellbaker in the 80's to Lance and Rahmer 2000's. For you its good close racing, for me/us its PERSONAL. So yea after many years and many bonehead moves, I do have a hard on for Swindell. Someone's going to say they all do it at times. TRUE, but no one is as BLATANT or unforgiving as he is. Fast forward to 2007, Kevin in USAC. All I'll say is WOW......

I've been going to the races since the late 60's, I was young at the time, but I too have seen some of the greats that strapped into a sprint car. I also read your post's on the other board and I have no doubt you seen much much much better and more non-wing racing than I have or probably ever will. But since 1997 I've some some pretty good chit myself.

On your trivia: I don't know the answers. But I would have to put:
The PAS Oval Nationals
Oskaloosa
Indiana Sprintweek and
The Four Crown in there somewhere........

As for Non-wing sprints in PA, we have NONE:thumbsdown:. But we do have non-wing midgets thanks to ARDC....

I've been from PA to Florida to California to Wisconsin and have no desire to go to the Chili Bowl or Knoxville. So as for next year probably not.
Have fun at the Bowl :checkered:

D.O. 1/10/08 2:16 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
Yo to all !

Lots of beating up going on here so please don't get personal and nasty. If your pizzzed at somebody PM them don't dump them here.

Interesting post.

I think the kid can drive for sure but ends up crashed or pitting on a family show. Hopefully somebody in NASCAR finds him a seat for a while.

It's the family you love to hate, just like Dallas TV show.

Give Slammy some credit, the old man still has the passion enough to fight.

His Kokomo deal with WIndom does make you wonder?

:dologob:

Pine 1/10/08 2:42 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
I agree with everything you said D.O., SORRY for my part:wink1:

axsom#11 1/10/08 4:03 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
doug is right , how many of you people on this panel have driven or own a sprint car , maybe 10 % and of that 10% you don't here them talking about his driving . Because most of the time these 810 hp. beasts are driving you not you driving them. And yes Kevin does need too calm down a little bit and get it a little more under control . Untill you have driven one don't judge !!! Because they are a hand full that want too go every were you don't them too go . No I am not a Swindell fan I am a Kinser fan and I've driven and I own one.

Joe Kidd 1/10/08 4:55 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Pine:
I do have a hard on for Swindell.:

I'm telling your wife. You are married aren't you?

PIT CART 1/10/08 6:07 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
How many people would bash Sammy to his face? Not me.

Pine 1/10/08 6:20 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 

Originally Posted by Joe Kidd:
I'm telling your wife. You are married aren't you?

:help:.............Engaged for 10 years....

paynter23 1/10/08 6:24 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
heres an idea. why dont you all strap into a sprint car and TRY to make kevin look as stupid as you make him sound?? :thumb: waiiit, your too busy bashing him on the internet

axsom#11 1/10/08 6:32 PM

Re: Kevin Swindell
 
thank you paynter23


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