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Originally Posted by TheLip2:
Charles - never thought you were being overly critical. LOVE the idea of the Lawrenceburg Speedway Fan Club. Membership dues would go to some sort of incentives program for weekly racers and it would be ran by the fans. I'm sure Dave would work with us on this in giving the members some perks.

On a side note . . . does anyone know or would anyone be willing to divulge on the what the memership numbers are for HARF and BARC?

BARC is no doubt the smallest and most exclusive membership of the three area clubs, primarily because it is male only, open wheel only, and we like it that way!! Membership has been stable at just over 100 for a number of years. Meetings are held monthly during the winter at the home of the renowned Hoffman Auto Racing. Activities include a fish fry, Polish Luau, field trips, Indy practice tickets, track discounts and a monthly newsletter. A smokin' deal for only $20. a year!
End of shameless promotion.
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I wish we could get 30+ cars every week but as long as the 'burg can get 21-23 cars including Ballou, DD, Hunter and a Walker Racing driver do jour nearly every week I will be quite satisfied.

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OK, I haven't read every response, so maybe this has been touched on, before, but the car count is the result of the competition for entries, and that's obvious. More than a few sprints saw a desirable alternative at Terre Haute, or elsewhere (it IS Saturday night in Indiana--there are options aplenty), and aside from Belle Clair relieving the midgets of some of the entries that participated at Bloomington, certainly many potential midget competitors simply thought "On a track that fast I haven't got a prayer of making money against the USAC regulars", and did something else. I am as happy as can be that Midgetweek has been moved from direct Knoxville Nationals-scheduling competition for my viewing dollar, but it can't be expected to just pull 40 cars whenever and wherever.
But do it again next year, and I'll bring my front gate money even if I KNOW only 24 cars are coming. Especially if I'm sure that Steve Buckwalter will be one of them...

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
http://www.lawrenceburgspeedway.com/...2009%20034.JPG

I'll take the ground pounder (Not Shown) The turtle always beats the Hare :)

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There are too many tracks running on Saturday night, which spreads out the car counts. Even Paragon is seeing a noticeable difference in their car counts - they used to get over 50 every week! Also, Lawrenceburg is not instituting their tire rule until August. Those of us who run at other tracks can't afford to buy tires that you really only can run at one track. Not economical. When you live in Indy, I can race at three different tracks within an hour, so why would would I want to go another hour and a half? Quite a few racers and race teams are located around Indy. Those in northern Indiana also have Waynesfield. Right now, everyone has to look out for their money, especially since you can't hardly get sponsors for your car, and everything is coming out of our own pockets. That's my two cents.

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Originally Posted by Nut'n but Dirt:
There are too many tracks running on Saturday night, which spreads out the car counts. Even Paragon is seeing a noticeable difference in their car counts - they used to get over 50 every week! Also, Lawrenceburg is not instituting their tire rule until August. Those of us who run at other tracks can't afford to buy tires that you really only can run at one track. Not economical. When you live in Indy, I can race at three different tracks within an hour, so why would would I want to go another hour and a half? Quite a few racers and race teams are located around Indy. Those in northern Indiana also have Waynesfield. Right now, everyone has to look out for their money, especially since you can't hardly get sponsors for your car, and everything is coming out of our own pockets. That's my two cents.

Not arguing your points about reasons but simply clarify something. Since when is Lburg 2.5 hours from Indy? 74-to St. Leon Rt. 1 1 hour 45 minutes at speed limit.. Total drive time both ways yeah your adding about a hour and a half over Putt, THAT and Paragon.

I know my drive to from Cincy to Indy was a lot shorter time wise than from Indy to VCS.

Didn't Paragon used to be a sunday night track? I know Haubstadt was when it was weekly.

Most at the Burg are already running the spec tires some aren't and its not always a advantage. I'll just be glad when that reason is no longer a issue.

Take care. Loved to see you race sometimes :)

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I think your right Chuck, About everycar i have seen in the winners circle is on DT3's.
Also right on about Lawrenceburg to Indy, it only takes me a hour and a half to get there.
Dave

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I've travelled 8 hrs. from PA 3 times in the last year to the burg and loved it every time.Seems like many people on this board (from IND.) are spoiled by all of the great racing you have in the midwest.I had a great time Saturday nite and saw some spectacular racing.Can't wait till Oct.3rd&4th to see it again ,keep up the great work Dave & crew.It sure beats the follow the leader ******** here in PA.:27::9::9::6:

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Back to car counts: Below are average sprint car counts per regular show, not including KISS, USAC, MSCS, etc...
FRIDAY
Bloomington is averaging 39.25 sprints per regular show (This does not include the Spring Clash special)
Gas City is averaging 26.5 sprints per regular show
Total is 65.75 sprints

SATURDAY
Lawrenceburg is averaging 23 sprints per regular show
Putnamville is averaging 20.4 sprints per regular show
Paragon is averaging 32.8 sprints per regular show
Total is 76.2 sprints

Note that VCS is missing as their results page merely notes feature finishing order and not total car count, but one can assume that they average in the upper 20's to lower 30's...

Just some food for thought.

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The car count of the mini sprints could possibly be less because of the scheduling conflict between the MMSA and the Amsa on sat. June 6th, On fri. June 5th there were 30 mini sprints, the next nite after they announced a purse increase and starting field of 24 cars ( actually started 20) some reduction of cars due to having competition from the MMSA at Twin Cities, competition can be good, but not always for everyone, If an attempt had been made to schedule the AMSA on one nite and the MMSA the other, I suspect the car count would have been in the 35 range both nites, more $$ for the promoter and the racers, apparently, this is not the goal of the promoter and the AMSA.
The obvious exclusion of the MMSA has and will have a negative effect on the car count at Fun Fest. Apparently there are behind the scene influences that don't want the MMSA at Lawrencebug with our higher payout & bonuses.
The MMSA received an uncomplimentary email for aggressively promoting the race at Twin Cities on June 6th,
I have not scheduled against any published date of the AMSA and do not plan to in the future, But, when they do, I will continue to aggressively promote the MMSA wherever we are racing.
Sometimes other personal factors influence business decisions.

Bill May

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Originally Posted by Dyno Don:
Does anybody know why there was such a small car count at The 'Burg on Saturday night?

Midget week and only 28 Midgets. Support series of Sprints count of 23 and 19 Mini Sprints.

Bloomington had 38 Midgets and 37 Sprints.

Kokomo had 30 plus Midgets. And I do not know how many cars ran their feature only thing.

Do the race teams have a thing against The 'Burg?

Economy, bigger track size and more tracks running.

Originally Posted by dshort36:
No racing room...... tires need to be moved down 10 ft....running the midgets first put a cushion in the middle of what little room there is to race.... dont know why they dont give us all of the track to race on. saving it for another year i guess.... no racing room , fast track, equals bad accidents....... my opinion

I feel if you move the track in it will turn into a run around the bottom show. Guys will set up for it and run it.:6: It will be flatter and that is the way some want it.