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IndianaSprintFan 7/29/23 11:15 PM

No one in the thread is talking about the wing portion of the paragon show. They ran real sprint cars each night as well…. Would have been a cool show to run next week. You know, not against isw

DaleDuBois 7/29/23 11:27 PM

Re: 31 at Bloomington
 
The new Paragon owners know nothing about racing. They get the word out on facebook. I think maybe the new owners never saw a race.

Moreland76 7/30/23 12:02 AM

I was only talking non wing sprints in my post, sorry for any confusion anyone has.

The55 7/30/23 12:06 AM

This is a pretty funny argument. A track trying to run their business and make money running a race the same night as another track. If their event sucks, no one shows up. If it offers value, then customers attend. Apparently folks here don’t want a CVS across the street from a Walgreens or a Meijer near a Walmart. Definitely shouldn’t have a Ford and Chevy dealership in the same town. I suspect most here like competition, you know, like the American way.

Twister17 7/30/23 12:23 AM

The only real downfall was that the low car count at Bloomington didn’t help get the bottom run in. Having a lane of grease to start a feature is un acceptable.

DaleDuBois 7/30/23 7:21 AM

Re: 31 at Bloomington
 
(A track trying to run their business and make money running a race the same night as another track. If their event sucks, no one shows up. If it offers value, then customers attend.) I went and it sorta looked that way. Just maybe 200 people in the stands.

Kart#51 7/30/23 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by DaleDuBois:
(A track trying to run their business and make money running a race the same night as another track. If their event sucks, no one shows up. If it offers value, then customers attend.) I went and it sorta looked that way. Just maybe 200 people in the stands.

Yep, Econ 101.

Kart#51 7/30/23 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by The55:
This is a pretty funny argument. A track trying to run their business and make money running a race the same night as another track. If their event sucks, no one shows up. If it offers value, then customers attend. Apparently folks here don’t want a CVS across the street from a Walgreens or a Meijer near a Walmart. Definitely shouldn’t have a Ford and Chevy dealership in the same town. I suspect most here like competition, you know, like the American way.

Right on! We complain about Hoosier having a “monopoly “ on sprint car tires and series.

Then we complain when another track/ series races and creates another opportunity for racers, whom aren’t going to run the ISW. Competition( if this show was deemed as competition vs Bloomington )is good and will organically work its way out.

The love of the juxtaposition.

The55 7/30/23 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kart#51:
Right on! We complain about Hoosier having a “monopoly “ on sprint car tires and series.

Then we complain when another track/ series races and creates another opportunity for racers, whom aren’t going to run the ISW. Competition( if this show was deemed as competition vs Bloomington )is good and will organically work its way out.

The love of the juxtaposition.

Competition was probably a bad choice of words, maybe an alternative is a better choice. There really isn’t much that can compete with ISW. Paragon is nostalgia to me. I went there as a youngster and remember Beavers, Gaines, Gilstrap and others. I like what the new Paragon owners have done with the new stands, restrooms, lights, etc and hope they have success.

A+ for use of juxtaposition.

hoosier race fan 7/30/23 3:14 PM

Re: 31 at Bloomington
 
If Paragon would have scheduled the FAST winged sprints, Modifieds, Super Stocks, and Bombers on Friday night, then had FAST, BOSS, and Hornets on Saturday night, the critics probably wouldn’t have said anything.

Moreland76 7/30/23 4:49 PM

Hoosier race fan you said exactly what I was trying to say.

Kart#51 7/30/23 6:06 PM

Yes, alternative is the best word for this scenario.

This used to happen annually when Jim Ford had Fremont. He ran on the Saturday of the Kings Royal. It’s an alternative for teams that choose not to run the bigger show. The impact to car count was less than 5. Didn’t impact fans cuz the fans that were coming to the KR came. The risk was on Fremont to hope the local fans came out, hence the low turnout of fans at Paragon on Friday.

The take away here is a total of 62 cars ran on a Friday night within an hour of each other. That’s a good thing.

Andrew S. Quinn 7/30/23 6:52 PM

Re: 31 at Bloomington
 
If I was still trying to go to as many races as possible like I did when I first moved to Indiana, I would have just viewed this as a chance to go to 2 races in one night......

cowboyhar69 7/30/23 7:51 PM

Originally Posted by erich45:
Yep, me too. 3 heats w/6 cars starting straight up. Top 3 advanced, other
3 start the next heat.

I remember one race at New Bremen in the mid to late 60’s, Bud Tinglestad was in all 3 heats and the semi when he finally made the feature.

Hubie48 7/31/23 11:19 AM

Re: 31 at Bloomington
 
The field was excellent and there were a few grid squids. USAC is in it's Zenith right now. If you are a weekly racer and you run well at your home track you have a chance. A slim chance, but a chance none the less

Sprint Week, or any USAC show, is not the place to "see if you can run with them" unless you have been running well at your weekly track.

These guys are pro's. They don't have "day jobs" for the most part

Hats off to Carson Garret. Dude is a PRO


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