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From local teams I've spoken to, it's been an ongoing problem.

Originally Posted by Rapid Rick:
Terre Haute is a different animal. The Speedway and Action Track are the just about the only open wheel tracks left with an infield friendly to race fans. Been that way forever. A good compromise would allow for coolers, can beer and fried chicken in the infield.

Not sure why the fried chicken is needed, just make a trip to the Sati Babi stand when it’s there. You won’t regret it.

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Concerning alcohol sales at tracks. TSS sells and you can bring in the largest cooler you have filled with beer. I flat out asked a sheriff on site one time, what is the law, his response was, "there is no such law in Indiana about bringing in alcohol when the track sells it"....those telling you this are lying.....Just what I was told.

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Originally Posted by NoDramazone2020:
Concerning alcohol sales at tracks. TSS sells and you can bring in the largest cooler you have filled with beer. I flat out asked a sheriff on site one time, what is the law, his response was, "there is no such law in Indiana about bringing in alcohol when the track sells it"....those telling you this are lying.....Just what I was told.

Excise police will tell you differently. I would be willing to wager you on this.

Originally Posted by NoDramazone2020:
Concerning alcohol sales at tracks. TSS sells and you can bring in the largest cooler you have filled with beer. I flat out asked a sheriff on site one time, what is the law, his response was, "there is no such law in Indiana about bringing in alcohol when the track sells it"....those telling you this are lying.....Just what I was told.

Would love to see you or this "Sheriff" tell Excise their lying. Again as stated before, it is a true statement. I have my bartender license/liquor license and this IS a question on a REQUIRED TO PASS TEST in order to obtain these license...just telling you that's how it is.

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Originally Posted by dirttracktherapy16j:
would love to see you or this "sheriff" tell excise their lying. Again as stated before, it is a true statement. I have my bartender license/liquor license and this is a question on a required to pass test in order to obtain these license...just telling you that's how it is.

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Originally Posted by NoDramazone2020:
Concerning alcohol sales at tracks. TSS sells and you can bring in the largest cooler you have filled with beer. I flat out asked a sheriff on site one time, what is the law, his response was, "there is no such law in Indiana about bringing in alcohol when the track sells it"....those telling you this are lying.....Just what I was told.

I forgot TSS sells beer also . Thanks for the reminder Kirk. It's clear that each facility does what they see fit to do for their fans and bottom line.

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Originally Posted by rpracing1:
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I could be wrong, but I think here in Ohio we have the same thing. It is not "Illegal" for me to take my own beer into Eldora as in I cannot get in trouble for it, but if Eldora allows me to take in my own alcohol they can lose their liqueur license. Both things can be true, although it is technically not illegal, it is against the rules for the track or whoever has a liqueur license. I cannot carry my own into a bar or restaurant and I cannot carry any out after I have bought it.

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Dramazone 2020 does not appear to believe his own BS. Still willing to wager here.

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk:
Dramazone 2020 does not appear to believe his own BS. Still willing to wager here.

I simply stated what my experience has been at TSS and what I was told. If it's illegal, then I guess TSS staff will have to deal with it.

I really don't give a flip...A tracks policy on Beer or Wine does not keep me from attending a race. Poor promotion and **** tracks sure do. I have no problem with abiding by a track's laws ...It is their facility, and they have the right to run it how they see fit.

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Originally Posted by NoDramazone2020:
I simply stated what my experience has been at TSS and what I was told. If it's illegal, then I guess TSS staff will have to deal with it.

I really don't give a flip...A tracks policy on Beer or Wine does not keep me from attending a race. Poor promotion and **** tracks sure do. I have no problem with abiding by a track's laws ...It is their facility, and they have the right to run it how they see fit.

Now, with that said, I decided to look up the statute on this. Indiana Code IC 7.1-5-8-5 discusses licensed premises, exceptions, and if you read it, it sure sounds to me they "carved out" an exception for "facilities that are used for auto racing"....it's all lawyer speak, but read it for yourself and come up with your own conclusion....Do Not take my word for it, or anyone else, go read it yourself and tell me what you think it says.

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Originally Posted by NoDramazone2020:
I simply stated what my experience has been at TSS and what I was told. If it's illegal, then I guess TSS staff will have to deal with it.

I really don't give a flip...A tracks policy on Beer or Wine does not keep me from attending a race. Poor promotion and **** tracks sure do. I have no problem with abiding by a track's laws ...It is their facility, and they have the right to run it how they see fit.

Fair enough. I am the same way about track policies. This all got started when my buddy OppWeld made a joke about the people complaining about coolers last year. I didn't understand bashing some one who put several hundred thousand dollars into a facility, and they get bashed for not allowing coolers. I hope TSS never has to deal with it. Being a long way from Indy helps them a lot.

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:deadhorse:

I think I’ll have a beer or two and try to rationalize all this 🍻

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I think I’ll have a beer or two and try to rationalize all this 🍻

Are you going to buy it or get it out of your cooler?

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk:
Fair enough. I am the same way about track policies. This all got started when my buddy OppWeld made a joke about the people complaining about coolers last year. I didn't understand bashing some one who put several hundred thousand dollars into a facility, and they get bashed for not allowing coolers. I hope TSS never has to deal with it. Being a long way from Indy helps them a lot.

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What I have heard is that TSS gets Special State Alcohol Considerations since they put on the best possible short track program in the state……:15:

Hehehe ……Fire away kids!

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I thought the talk was the future of the track! Not drink in.

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Originally Posted by rimrider69:
I thought the talk was the future of the track! Not drink in.

I'll Drink to THAT:32:

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Originally Posted by Hustlin-Hoosier:
I'll Drink to THAT:32:

THAT’s very nice!

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2020 is correct. The statute has an exception for race tracks, which would be the "Speedway" exception and it would apply to other such facilities as well, regardless of size.

If you read the statute, it also has and exception for other outdoor venues (I'm thinking a Klipsch style venue) as well.

Finally, the penalty is NOT against the facility, but against the person trying to bring it in to the facility.

So, a race track CAN allow outside liquor in, but they don't have to. A track can prohibit coolers or beer from coming in, but they can allow it even if they sell beer on prem.

All this info on alcohol……. Meanwhile I’m still wondering if we will see racing at the Action Track and who the promoter will be. 😁
I have an idea who “ might” be the promotor but it’s just a wild hunch on my part

Originally Posted by cowboyhar69:
All this info on alcohol……. Meanwhile I’m still wondering if we will see racing at the Action Track and who the promoter will be. 😁
I have an idea who “ might” be the promotor but it’s just a wild hunch on my part

Thank you very much,back to the original topic.

Originally Posted by diversified:
Track Enterprises/ Bob Sargeant is coming back...and the "TBA" on USAC's schedule are THAT shows

So is this a fact or just Xmas wishing?

I was going to add, the last time we were at Oak Ridge, we got there and were greeted by a humongous stack of coolers, they weren't kidding, you either left your coolers, or you just left, didn't bother me, or our crew, as long as we got it back when we left was good enough, and we did, but I think that was about the time they shut down, probably because of something else, but the message was clear, just sayin.

I don’t think coolers should be allowed in grandstands or bleachers at any track as they take up prime seats. They should be limited to infields or tracks with hillside seating with wide concrete steps. In most states outside of Indiana, coolers are not allowed period. If Hoosier fans need a buzz to enjoy racing, drink a few before then buy a couple from the track or go back to your car and slam one at intermission. I’ve done it a thousand times.

Originally Posted by diversified:
Track Enterprises/ Bob Sargeant is coming back...and the "TBA" on USAC's schedule are THAT shows

So is this a fact or just Xmas wishing?

Originally Posted by Rpracing1:
So is this a fact or just Xmas wishing?

I asked the same question back on 12/21….. no response as yet.

I have to say, all of this banter is entertaining if nothing else. I want to say one thing, that applies to this topic especially. I don’t think anyone on IOW is a liar. We may say something confident to our perspective, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s correct. Nodrama cited the statute for us all to read. Brent said he witnessed it from an excise officer. I don’t question Brent or 2020, I do however question anything involved with government and those whose job it is to enforce such matters. Bottom line is cooler policy is not going to play a big factor in attendance. I can tell you with absolute certainty, one hand on the Bible, the biggest factor that causes me not to attend in person is races that are not on Saturday night. I absolutely hate that fact that I almost always have to alter my work schedule to go to this iconic race track

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Not saying which track but they used to pay no mind to people on the back straight . Until Excise showed up. What they were nailing is out of state liquor and brands they don't sell there. Not sure what the law was or which they were breaking. I don't know what the law is, But if it's posted. obey it. I wish I could carry my own fifth into a bar. Be a hell of a lot cheaper that way and that isn't even posted. They'll just throw you out.

As far as Terre Haute, I hope they race and I take a cooler. Because I drink five or six pops and or waters during a racing event. Being dissabled means I come down after heats, do my buisness and back to the stands. Not standing in line four times and paying twenty bucks It does offset some of the 320+ mile round trip cost.

For what it is worth, it is pretty clearly stated (in the section previously cited) that it is not against the law for a person to bring alcohol into a track that is used primarily for auto racing even if the track sells alcohol. Nothing at all in this section about it being illegal for the facility to allow alcohol to be carried in.

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:deadhorse::29:

There is a huge difference between lying and having differing thoughts on the same issue. Choosing appropriate words usually leads to better dialogue.

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To get this thread back on track here's latest on THAT from today's Terre Haute Tribune-Star.


https://www.tribstar.com/sports/joe-...1286af06f.html

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I’d feel better if the article was the announcement of a new promotion team for THAT, but at least the news is promising!

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I always wondered how it would work if the track hired someone like Knoxville, and did the reinvesting themselves. It seems to have worked out good there.

You could do wangs once a month there. Dont get me wrong I am a non wings guy but cant beat wangs at THAT. Could pay 10,000 to win. I hope the can bring the all stars in this year. I like All Stars better. WOO is just too big (too big of crowds). Hasnt been the same since the king left.

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Originally Posted by Sprints fan 11:
You could do wangs once a month there. Dont get me wrong I am a non wings guy but cant beat wangs at THAT. Could pay 10,000 to win. I hope the can bring the all stars in this year. I like All Stars better. WOO is just too big (too big of crowds). Hasnt been the same since the king left.

The schedules for Allstars and WoO are both set for 2023. No way the Allstars will be at THAT in 2023. WoO were on the 2021 THAT schedule but got rained out early in the season. I believe it was for a May date.

Knoxville is just like Terre Haute. It has a Fairboard which hires a GM