So you think 432,000 per year + bonuses is about right then ?

Jelly much?

I’ve never watched the top brass in their day to day activities, therefore I will not judge their value.

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So if Usac brings in 4.3 million a year, He makes less than a waitress/waiter in percentage?

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So we are debating salaries of who???? Miller?? Spridge ???? Ritchie??? Who??? One is the president of Usac who claims to have made Usac global in its entities. Perception is 9/10 the reality and every time I’ve seen him he looks lost and has no idea what the three main divisions of Usac really are. We will find out this year what the others really know as they won’t have Levi to lean on for experience and knowledge. Usac’s main problem is that its time to decide on which series to focus on and cut the others loose. These guys are leaving to go winged sprint car racing so
I would surmise that sprint cars are the most viable. Silver Crown is old time traditional yesteryear racing. It’s also 10 or so weekends they could be running sprint cars. Midgets are an animal of their own filled with one “owner” showing up with rich daddy funded 5 to 6 cars for kids and a few other teams trying to compete for peanuts yet spending 10s of 1000s to run them. Again taking away weekends to run sprint cars. No one moves up from Usac midgets to run a highly paid midget series. Now people are talking about adding asphalt cars back into the deal which will further cut team participation due to costs. It’s real simple. Run the sprint cars all of the time and up the anty for purses and points. Let the kids series and the over the hill series find new homes. Or cut loose the sprint cars to someone who wants to promote the product and get the teams more money. It’s no secret that Usac stands by the theory they are not in racing to promote they are just in it to show up and have a race. Unfortunately most of the country does not race their product and fans don’t know who they are due to lack of promotion. It’s real easy for me to say this is right and that is wrong but let’s look at the numbers. You can run a winged sprint car in multiple sanctions for a lot of money. Heck you can run a true outlaw schedule not bound to any sanction for a lot of money. You could even run certain regions of the country for a lot of money(central pa or Cali for instance) Late Models can run anywhere they want, sanctioned or not for a lot of money. Even northeast modifieds are now branching out to other parts of the country for a lot of money. One series just put together a deal with each winner is at least 25gs. Two of those events are actually at 50g. They credit their exposure on Flo for that. The group at Usac has been on Flo for a couple of years and how many 50g to win shows are they boasting?????? The saddest part is the product is good if not great when the sprinters come to race, it’s that they have no help in promoting it. If it costs more at the gate to up the purse then so be it. I believe the only other alternative is for the teams to just stop showing up to Usac events altogether until they pay more or give it up to someone who will. Why would Usac work at upping the anty if teams keep running for peanuts. In a perfect world all types of racing would be running for big money but since it’s not perfect it’s time to look at why other forms of dirt racing can get big purses and Usac can’t. The days of Mario, AJ, the Unsers, and Rutherford are long gone. Celebrate that great era yes, but it’s time to move into the present or there won’t be any teams left. Good luck to Windom and KTJ as they pursue a better financial life and hopefully these departures open eyes to what we are losing. Just because it costs more to run a wing doesn’t mean non wing don’t deserve to run for more money as this form of racing is not cheap either.

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Sliver of sunshine.USAC Sprint Car schedule coming out tomorrow :32:

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I have been watching usac since 1970. There have been lean times but the last few years have been great. Someone new and exciting is always on the horizon to watch. As of recent years, there are drivers that can't qualify for a feature in an evening that are potential feature winners. Heat races are very competitive. If these guys are chasing more money I wish them well. I like it when these former winners can go elsewhere and do well. The USAC product is still strong and prestigious I believe.

Wonder what Brady's plans are for next season.

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#5

If we were only running based on the most money then late models would be the best choice..they always run for more money..and that is why you see so many full time guys racing late models..it doesnt cost that much more to run a wing than a non wing..i race non wing and know the cost of it....the whole problem is everyone is getting more money except for the car owners and drivers....the purses in non wing hasnt changed much in years but the cost to field a car has went through the roof...the amount it pays to win a usac race is almost embarrassing....up the purses and that will solve so much..ppl are tired of it

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With Windom and Thomas moving on it seems we 3 and maybe 4 substantial replacements stepping up. Thorson, Seavey, Axsom, and possibly Kofoid

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I think the All Stars did a real smart thing. Running less races with several high $ races. This cuts expenses for teams, and lets teams still run the big Outlaw races. I wish Kevin and Chris luck with their new plans. I don't think USAC will be only place to lose a couple of teams. The All Stars are going to running quite a bit east of Ohio. Could they lure a Danny Deitrich or a Brent Marks? Detrich ran pretty good at Ohio SpeedWeek last year. Maybe even an Anthony Macri? Also wonder if say a Kraig Kinser, or a Brock Zearfoss could make more money with lower expenses with the All Stars. If they can get a few more quality wing teams to commit, that will make making money harder for everyone. Remember this is competition, not everyone will succeed.
As far as Kevin and Chris leaving USAC, that may create an opportunity for someone else. I am sure 3 years ago Jake Swanson wasn't on any of our radars. He is now a contender. Could this be a chance for an Isaac Chapple to put something together? He has proven he can win and adapt to different tracks. I remember when Steve and Sammy and others left the Outlaws to start the USA series. Everyone said the Outlaws would die without them. They ended up with higher car counts, and more teams followed the whole series.
As far as USAC needs to pay more money. In theory that would be great, but do you remember how many people complained when Putnamville charged $5 extra to raise the purse for Bill's race? To pay Outlaw purses you have to charge Outlaw prices. I am not sure that would work. Looking forward to next year

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To pay Outlaw purses you have to charge Outlaw prices.

And draw Outlaw crowds.

And to do that, you have to give them something they don't see every week. USAC fans don't want USAC to go run in parts unknown, put that's how you pay big money. If Indiana fans only got to see the stars run 10 times a year they would mark that on their calendar the way PA fans mark the Eastern Storm on their calendar. If USAC did that, the Indiana faithful would wail and holler at the top of their lungs.

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I skimmed the thread, a lot of points were touched on......Just a few quick thoughts:

1. not sure what Levi's (or person in same role) salary was, but in my mind should be no less than 250k.
2. not sure what Spridge's (or person in same role) salary was in 2021, but in my mind should be no less than 150k.
3. hopefully they both beat this guesstimate, but this is what I would equate in my world as reasonable pay for time/effort/postion.
4. fingers crossed, KT will be back before Indiana Sprint Week, I have seen this movie before. It took him some time to hone in on
sprint cars, not sure if he will want to spend that time again on wings.
5. Windom may hang on and spend money, what else does he have to accomplish in USAC, anyways his girl isn't on the trail either.
6. Isaac is too old and washed up these days, everyone wants the next best thing, and beside he is a wanna be, has been, that
never was.....never got a top notch ride with a dedicated wrench, lacked funding and the desire to be an arrive and
drive.....closest thing he ever had was a worn out Claxton and a bent DRC with steel components, worn out tires from Clauson
and Cripe (I love me some Cripe, except at TH) on the wrenches LOL!!!! BUT, he LOVES Sprint Car racing and will show up
somewhere, wherever the regulations support a Free America, and wherever his funds and resources will allow.......which at the
end of the day, is what the majority of these guys that we pay money to watch do!!!! :35:
Let's Go Racing, and pray for a safe 2022 for all these bad asses and a win at the Big E for Isaac!! :D

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Maybe USAC could run wing cars when they are not in Indiana.

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With Levi stepping aside maybe USAC would have a position for DD if he so desired.

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They tried that once. It would make expenses go up, and eliminate what makes them different.

Won’t be back mid season.